What are you on about? The German constitution guarantees Freedom of Expression and Speech, like almost every other major developed democracy.
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by Jedi Council » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:36 am
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by The New California Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:32 pm
by SD_Film Artists » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:35 pm
The New California Republic wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
Germany doesn't have freedom of speech or expression however. We do.
Odd that Germany ranks above the US in several freedom rankings then:
https://freedomhouse.org/countries/free ... d%20Status
https://rsf.org/en/ranking
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies ... index-2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
by Rusozak » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:40 pm
SD_Film Artists wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Odd that Germany ranks above the US in several freedom rankings then:
https://freedomhouse.org/countries/free ... d%20Status
https://rsf.org/en/ranking
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies ... index-2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
Generally I'd agree Germany is more free than America, but Germany does have some notoriously strict censorship with things like video games.
by Greed and Death » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:02 pm
Rusozak wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
Generally I'd agree Germany is more free than America, but Germany does have some notoriously strict censorship with things like video games.
And the U.S. is notoriously lax on censorship (at least of the non-sexual kind), but it doesn't necessarily reflect the overall status of freedom. Sure, maybe as far as free speech and censorship go the U.S. may be ahead, but with things like a de facto two-party hegemony slaved to an electoral college, political freedoms leave something to be desired.
by Katganistan » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:31 pm
Organized States wrote:Evacillian wrote:As the discussions in this forum has evolved , the topic of why the Confederate States of America should be honored or dishonored has been brought up. Here are some points to consider.
1) Combined, President Abraham Lincoln and President Andrew Johnson gave full pardon for and restoration of property to all those on the losing side. The Compromise of 1877 is proof that the Former Confederate States were to be treated once again like regular States of the Union.
2) Respecting the losing side (the inferior) is considered honorable and true. The Confederate States of America and those who fought for it are honoured for their valor. The Confederate States of America did what the Constitution encouraged them to do, which was to rebel against a government which they believed was oppressive. This honour is seen as how the Union treat the dead Confederate soldiers till this day.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title38-section2306&num=0&edition=prelim
3) Flags are symbols that can be interpreted in a variety of ways. These interpretations are made by individuals whose ideas can contradict with other individuals.
How many different interpretations do you think the Flag of the United States of America has garnered over the years in the billions of people who have seen it? In how many ways has the Flag of the United States of America been used by groups and individuals, American and Non-American? Personally, I don't think I would be able to successfully count. What I do know, is that each interpretation and display of any flag is a right that individuals should be able to make. It is not my right to take, damage, or destroy another's property just because I find the flag they wave to be offensive.
Except we shouldn't honor them. They betrayed the United States. We don't honor Benedict Arnold for his valor. We shouldn't honor Confederates either.
Also, the military suspends any number of personal rights and liberties in pursuit of good order and discipline.
by Auristania » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:43 pm
1. Do you agree with the Department of Defense's decision to restrict what flags are permitted on their property or affiliations.
2. What do you think of the demand to allow Pride Flags and American Indian Flags to the list of acceptable flags?
by Thermodolia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:40 pm
Auristania wrote:1. Do you agree with the Department of Defense's decision to restrict what flags are permitted on their property or affiliations.
2. What do you think of the demand to allow Pride Flags and American Indian Flags to the list of acceptable flags?
#1 Department of Defence decides which flags fly at military bases; Department of Health decides which flags fly at Hospitals; Department of Education decides which flags fly at Universities; Town Councils decide which flags fly at City Halls; Union Halls and churches decide which flags etc etc etc.
#2 Yeah why not?
by -Astoria- » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:15 am
Explain.The Emerald Legion wrote:Germany doesn't have freedom of speech or expression however. We do.
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by SD_Film Artists » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:47 am
Greed and Death wrote:Rusozak wrote:
And the U.S. is notoriously lax on censorship (at least of the non-sexual kind), but it doesn't necessarily reflect the overall status of freedom. Sure, maybe as far as free speech and censorship go the U.S. may be ahead, but with things like a de facto two-party hegemony slaved to an electoral college, political freedoms leave something to be desired.
The reality is the upper levels of these comparisons are less about actually comparing how free a society is and more about measuring the the personal policy preferences of whoever created the study.
by The New California Republic » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:23 am
by -Astoria- » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:29 am
Then that's a fast dump, that.
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by Fartsniffage » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:59 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:Greed and Death wrote:
The reality is the upper levels of these comparisons are less about actually comparing how free a society is and more about measuring the the personal policy preferences of whoever created the study.
I'm just guessing as I haven't seen the Freedom Foundation's criteria but I suspect that it balances 'freedom to do things' against 'freedom to live your life away from other people's actions'. For example Canadian and Swiss gun rights would be a plus as you can go to shooting ranges- something that you can't do in Britain; whereas US gun rights would be a negative as it comes with all the weird political/sexual/religious baggage of US gun culture.
by The New California Republic » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:02 am
Fartsniffage wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
I'm just guessing as I haven't seen the Freedom Foundation's criteria but I suspect that it balances 'freedom to do things' against 'freedom to live your life away from other people's actions'. For example Canadian and Swiss gun rights would be a plus as you can go to shooting ranges- something that you can't do in Britain; whereas US gun rights would be a negative as it comes with all the weird political/sexual/religious baggage of US gun culture.
http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org ... sitor1.htm
by SD_Film Artists » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:03 am
Fartsniffage wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
I'm just guessing as I haven't seen the Freedom Foundation's criteria but I suspect that it balances 'freedom to do things' against 'freedom to live your life away from other people's actions'. For example Canadian and Swiss gun rights would be a plus as you can go to shooting ranges- something that you can't do in Britain; whereas US gun rights would be a negative as it comes with all the weird political/sexual/religious baggage of US gun culture.
http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org ... sitor1.htm
by Fartsniffage » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:10 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:
"Due to the spread of the Corona virus the Club is closed to new members until further notice."
So it's true that you can't go to a shooting club in Britain. Ha! Hoist by his own petard!
The ranges are now open for pre-booked visits with effect from Sunday 2nd August
by -Astoria- » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:16 am
Ouf.Fartsniffage wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
"Due to the spread of the Corona virus the Club is closed to new members until further notice."
So it's true that you can't go to a shooting club in Britain. Ha! Hoist by his own petard!The ranges are now open for pre-booked visits with effect from Sunday 2nd August
http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org.uk/
What is the date today?
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by Risottia » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:32 am
Evacillian wrote:1. Do you agree with the Department of Defense's decision to restrict what flags are permitted on their property or affiliations.
2. What do you think of the demand to allow Pride Flags and American Indian Flags to the list of acceptable flags?
by Outer Acharet » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:32 am
Evacillian wrote:Alright, NS. Now that that intro is over- I can get to the point.
1. Do you agree with the Department of Defense's decision to restrict what flags are permitted on their property or affiliations.
2. What do you think of the demand to allow Pride Flags and American Indian Flags to the list of acceptable flags?
Ye Boi J.Madison wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The First Amendment Encyclopedia wrote:Also decided during the Vietnam War was Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969), a case in which a school district attempted to prohibit students from wearing black arm bands to protest the war. The Court rejected the school’s argument that it needed the regulation to maintain order. The Court held that the ban was a suppression of student expression and therefore a First Amendment violation. Critical here was the fact that students were peaceful and nondisruptive in their use of armbands as symbolic speech; wearing the armbands was no more disruptive than other symbols and jewelry that students were permitted to display.
News? What news? News is for people who don't have a bloated military-industrial complex strangling their apparatus of state. Wait, that sounds like a bad thing, doesn't it?
by SD_Film Artists » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:10 pm
Outer Acharet wrote:Evacillian wrote:Alright, NS. Now that that intro is over- I can get to the point.
1. Do you agree with the Department of Defense's decision to restrict what flags are permitted on their property or affiliations.
2. What do you think of the demand to allow Pride Flags and American Indian Flags to the list of acceptable flags?
1. Maybe? I think there's a bit of a slippery slope there. I mean, there is context behind symbols, and protections of freedom of expression are enshrined in the Bill of Rights
Fartsniffage wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
"Due to the spread of the Corona virus the Club is closed to new members until further notice."
So it's true that you can't go to a shooting club in Britain. Ha! Hoist by his own petard!The ranges are now open for pre-booked visits with effect from Sunday 2nd August
http://www.marplerifleandpistolclub.org.uk/
What is the date today?
by Outer Acharet » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:26 pm
SD_Film Artists wrote:Outer Acharet wrote:
1. Maybe? I think there's a bit of a slippery slope there. I mean, there is context behind symbols, and protections of freedom of expression are enshrined in the Bill of Rights
But it's important for places such as military baracks to have proper identification.
News? What news? News is for people who don't have a bloated military-industrial complex strangling their apparatus of state. Wait, that sounds like a bad thing, doesn't it?
by Novus America » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:21 am
Auristania wrote:1. Do you agree with the Department of Defense's decision to restrict what flags are permitted on their property or affiliations.
2. What do you think of the demand to allow Pride Flags and American Indian Flags to the list of acceptable flags?
#1 Department of Defence decides which flags fly at military bases; Department of Health decides which flags fly at Hospitals; Department of Education decides which flags fly at Universities; Town Councils decide which flags fly at City Halls; Union Halls and churches decide which flags etc etc etc.
#2 Yeah why not?
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