Trump to delay the election

[Nobel Hobos 2]

In that respect, democracy has a flaw. A powerful, short-term manipulation of factors influencing voter decision during election season can lead to a vote that - in hindsight - does not accurately reflect the people's desires. In fact, democracy in its current form is rather poor at representing what the votes want, because what the votes want is heavily influenceable on the short term.

Vote once a month (online/postal required). Your vote is averaged in with monthly votes from the last 2 years. If the incumbent's average falls below that of the challenger, there is a two-week transition and the challenger becomes President. They get six months in which they can't be voted out, after which if their six-month average is less than the (new) challenger, they're out too. Let's add that you can save votes: if the main issue that month doesn't interest you, don't vote but you can use a fraction of that vote to add to your vote the next month. No term limit.

[Purpelia]

In that respect, democracy has a flaw. A powerful, short-term manipulation of factors influencing voter decision during election season can lead to a vote that - in hindsight - does not accurately reflect the people's desires. In fact, democracy in its current form is rather poor at representing what the votes want, because what the votes want is heavily influenceable on the short term.

Vote once a month (online/postal required). Your vote is averaged in with monthly votes from the last 2 years. If the incumbent's average falls below that of the challenger, there is a two-week transition and the challenger becomes President. They get six months in which they can't be voted out, after which if their six-month average is less than the (new) challenger, they're out too. Let's add that you can save votes: if the main issue that month doesn't interest you, don't vote but you can use a fraction of that vote to add to your vote the next month. No term limit.

Do you have any idea how complicated and difficult that would be to implement, let alone expensive? At least unless you want to go all in on internet voting in which case, as a programmer it is my professional opinion that YOU SHOULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO THAT!

[Salandriagado]

Mayhap I am confused, but how can one know if a vote had been entered in their name if they were not personally present to do so?

After the fact phone call thanking her for the vote she didn't cast.

Which proves absolutely nothing: they will have just rang everybody who they thought might have voted for their candidate. They have no way of telling whether or not you actually voted.

[Picairn]

Err... Shrub? Regan? clinton? President ignore I almost blew up the planet because I put a man on the moon Kennedy? President raging racist let's screw Europe up so bad they have to fight another world war to strait things out Wilson?
Again, I am not seeing it.

The only difference really is that these days presidential behavior is much, much, much, infinitely much more visible because of social media, the internet and the 24h news cycle. So he looks worse than those before him.

Wait what, what did Reagan and Clinton do to achieve the level of Trump?

Re: Kennedy, yes let's ignore the fact that Khrushchev put the freaking ICBMs in Cuba, just 140 km from Florida. The Soviet ICBMs at the time is capable of reaching US mainland. Yes I know the US had put the Jupiter missiles in Italy and Turkey first.

Re: Wilson, yes dude was a raging racist and I won't defend him to the slightest. But his 14-point proposal was actually way milder than the Versailles Treaty itself (the actual thing that sparked WWII), which include German reparations, cession of territory and the infamous "War guilt" clause. The Treaty was the product of Britain and France, so if you want to place the blame properly you should put it on Clemenceau and David Lloyd George.

But I digress. None of these president, except maybe Wilson, can match the level of hateful rhetoric, authoritarianism and stupidity (Wilson is not on this category since he is a political science professor) that Trump creates daily. But then again, at least Wilson left a legacy of progressivism and the League of Nations, which sets the stone for the sequel: the New Deal and United Nations. What meaningful legacy will Trump leave behind? Inspiration for future dictators and a symbol of the attacks on democracy?

[La Xinga]

Err... Shrub? Regan? clinton? President ignore I almost blew up the planet because I put a man on the moon Kennedy? President raging racist let's screw Europe up so bad they have to fight another world war to strait things out Wilson?
Again, I am not seeing it.

The only difference really is that these days presidential behavior is much, much, much, infinitely much more visible because of social media, the internet and the 24h news cycle. So he looks worse than those before him.

Re: Wilson, yes dude was a raging racist and I won't defend him to the slightest. But his 14-point proposal was actually way milder than the Versailles Treaty itself (the actual thing that sparked WWII), which include German reparations, cession of territory and the infamous "War guilt" clause. The Treaty was the product of Britain and France, so if you want to place the blame properly you should put it on Clemenceau and David Lloyd George.

The reason why everything was put on Germany instead of Austria-Hungary was clearly because France and the UK were writing it, so they did everything on Germany.

[Purpelia]

Wait what, what did Reagan and Clinton do to achieve the level of Trump?

That was supposed to be Nixon, not Reagan. I got those two mixed up sorry. And clinton was legendary for the media outrage of lies and cheating he had over sex with that girl. Remember? Guy even got into an impeachment procedure over it.
Point is, lying american presidents fighting it out with the media is nothing new.

Re: Kennedy, yes let's ignore the fact that Khrushchev put the freaking ICBMs in Cuba, just 140 km from Florida. The Soviet ICBMs at the time is capable of reaching US mainland. Yes I know the US had put the Jupiter missiles in Italy and Turkey first.

Not saying that the other guy with a K wasn't an idiot. Between the two of them they were just one K short of a picnic. But there were two of them.

Re: Wilson, yes dude was a raging racist and I won't defend him to the slightest. But his 14-point proposal was actually way milder than the Versailles Treaty itself (the actual thing that sparked WWII), which include German reparations, cession of territory and the infamous "War guilt" clause. The Treaty was the product of Britain and France, so if you want to place the blame properly you should put it on Clemenceau and David Lloyd George.

Two things:
1. Had he actually maintained neutrality and not deliberately worked on pushing america into the war no matter what it would have likely ended much differently. Especially if he had actually maintained proper neutrality before joining as opposed to opening the taps on arms sales. A different outcome to WW1, one where perhaps everyone is far more exhausted and damaged would have benefited us all.

2. The Treaty of Versailles was far too mild, largely because of american meddling. If France had their way Germany as we know it would have ceased to exist. But the british were against it and americans went along with them as opposed to the French. Sans american meddling France would have had much more power to properly close the German issue and save us from WW2.

But I digress. None of these president, except maybe Wilson, can match the level of hateful rhetoric, authoritarianism and stupidity (Wilson is not on this category since he is a political science professor) that Trump creates daily. But then again, at least Wilson left a legacy of progressivism and the League of Nations, which sets the stone for the sequel: the New Deal and United Nations. What meaningful legacy will Trump leave behind? Inspiration for future dictators and a symbol of the attacks on democracy?

The most heinous imperialist organization designed to preserve the world order of great powers oppressing the rest through false legitimacy. Yea, I can do without the UN.

[The Emerald Legion]

Not gonna happen. States run presidential elections and they even did that in the middle of a Civil War (the 1864 election). Trump is gonna be stopped, and he can do nothing about it.

Last I checked, a week or so ago, Trump had something like an 86% chance of winning.

[Federation of American States]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

[Thermodolia]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

Why exactly would the democrats want to delay an election they think they’ll win?

[Purpelia]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

Why exactly would the democrats want to delay an election they think they’ll win?

Who is seriously going to vote for Biden?

[The Emerald Legion]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

Why exactly would the democrats want to delay an election they think they’ll win?

Because they don't actually think they're going to win.

[Ifreann]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

The Democrats don't control Congress.

[Federation of American States]

If democrats don't control Congress then why the hell is Pelosi speaker of house. ?

[Thermodolia]

If democrats don't control Congress then why the hell is Pelosi speaker of house. ?

Only control the house the Senate is highly Republican

[La Xinga]

If democrats don't control Congress then why the hell is Pelosi speaker of house. ?

Only control the house the Senate is highly Republican

Repubs have only 2 more.

[Federation of American States]

The Senate is barely controlled by republicans. Because of "Republicans in name only" like mitt Romney who hold a few seats. But generally speaking when people say congress they are referring to the house.

[Vassenor]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

Can I get some Thousand Island with that word salad?

[La Xinga]

The Senate is barely controlled by republicans. Because of "Republicans in name only" like mitt Romney who hold a few seats. But generally speaking when people say congress they are referring to the house.

Yeah, Mitt Romney's more of a Dem than a Republican.

[Thermodolia]

Only control the house the Senate is highly Republican

Repubs have only 2 more.

There are 53 republicans to 47 democrats. To pass a pro democrat bill the democrats would need to convince 4 republicans to side with them. That’s not happening

[Thermodolia]

Why exactly would the democrats want to delay an election they think they’ll win?

Because they don't actually think they're going to win.

So they don’t think they are going to win yet ya claim that democrats think they’ll win because they believe that the polls say they will.

Which is it dude

[Atheris]

Only control the house the Senate is highly Republican

Repubs have only 2 more.

You'd be surprised how much 53 over 47 changes things.

[Ifreann]

If democrats don't control Congress then why the hell is Pelosi speaker of house. ?

Because Democrats control the House of Representatives. Congress is a bicameral legislature.

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The Senate is barely controlled by republicans. Because of "Republicans in name only" like mitt Romney who hold a few seats.

McConnell as Majority Leader wields more power that the simple numbers might lead one to believe.

But generally speaking when people say congress they are referring to the house.

The point, beyond technicalities, is that Democrats can't delay the election because they only control "congress" and not the Senate. So they can't pass laws to change the date of the election.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Not gonna happen. States run presidential elections and they even did that in the middle of a Civil War (the 1864 election). Trump is gonna be stopped, and he can do nothing about it.

Last I checked, a week or so ago, Trump had something like an 86% chance of winning.

That says more about you than it does about Trump or Biden.

If democrats don't control Congress then why the hell is Pelosi speaker of house. ?

Congress is divided at present. Neither party has complete control.

Bit of trivia for you: the House can elect anyone Speaker, they don't have to be elected to the House (or Senate).

[Federation of American States]

Because they don't actually think they're going to win.

So they don’t think they are going to win yet ya claim that democrats think they’ll win because they believe that the polls say they will.

Which is it dude

It's simple
They lie to the public and claim that they think they can win.
But in secrect they don't actually think their gonna win. They tell the plebs one thing while in secrect they don't actually belive what they say.

[Atheris]

in the Tweet he says
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
he is not saying he is going to delay the election, he probably posted this tweet to get the Dems to freak out about a delaying it so when November comes the Democrat Congress Can't decide to delay it so they can appoint a "acting" president in January without looking like Hippocrates

Why exactly would the democrats want to delay an election they think they’ll win?

I mean, Pelosi would take over...