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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:37 pm

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San Lumen wrote:How did I do that?

You put him in the role of Palpatine. The good guy.


Palpatine is a puppet of JarJar, leader of the Korea in the north and supreme Lord of the Sith.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm

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Jabberwocky wrote:I've been voting by mail for 30 years with no problem. trump is a psychotic lunatic who should be forcibly removed from office. Not in November. Today.

Thing is votes are unsecured via mail.


And yet Trump himself does it often.

Pretty sure the CBS did some sort of experiment where only 27% votes got taken and recorded.

Did they ? Have a source or did you make it up :)?
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Postby Mirjt » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:40 pm

Everyone knew Trump was going to try authoritarian tactics and excuses to try to subvert democracy and retain his Presidency for longer, however Trump is unable to delay the election as the election date is set in stone by Constitution. Even Lincoln in the middle of the civil war would not and could not delay or cancel the election (though he did send armed guards to the four slave states that were allied with the Union, to oversee the election, which may or may not have influenced the outcome).

Regardless Trump delaying the election is no concern as he can't. https://www.vox.com/2020/3/21/21188152/ ... te-by-mail
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:40 pm

It is currently unconstitutional, but might be a good option considering how crowded the relatively few polling locations typically are and the failure of the incompetent prevention/slow of the spread of the corona virus.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:40 pm

Drongonia wrote:
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Sticking your head in the sand would somewhat function as a mask, I guess.

And it means I get to go to the beach!


Yup have fun. Remember to breathe.
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Postby Ejercito Libertador del Sur » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:So Trump is demanding a thing that the Constitution does not permit based on an entirely baseless concern.

Someone ask him if he's fine with President Pelosi, since that's where this path will lead.

If Trump delay the election,the president pro tempore of the senate will be the new president 8)

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Postby Exxosia » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:56 pm

First, he genuinely has a point. Convenience voting, absentee voting, and mail-in voting are all rife for abuse and should probably be outlawed.

Second, the proportion of coronavirus deaths is massively inflated. Some sources putting it as high as 90%. And all responses to Covid-19 — a coronavirus — have been the opposite of what would be needed to quickly defeat it. Making it a worse endemic virus for profits and control was more important than anything else.

So if we are to cower in fear of a virus, we might as well suspend all elections until viruses are exterminated worldwide. Because if a virus of next to no considerable severity means we are this concerned, that the number of people dying from the response to it is three times more than from the virus, it is time to say we can no longer have public interaction in politics at all until all virus-based pathogens are extinct.

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Postby Godular » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:00 pm

Exxosia wrote:First, he genuinely has a point. Convenience voting, absentee voting, and mail-in voting are all rife for abuse and should probably be outlawed.

Second, the proportion of coronavirus deaths is massively inflated. Some sources putting it as high as 90%. And all responses to Covid-19 — a coronavirus — have been the opposite of what would be needed to quickly defeat it. Making it a worse endemic virus for profits and control was more important than anything else.

So if we are to cower in fear of a virus, we might as well suspend all elections until viruses are exterminated worldwide. Because if a virus of next to no considerable severity means we are this concerned, that the number of people dying from the response to it is three times more than from the virus, it is time to say we can no longer have public interaction in politics at all until all virus-based pathogens are extinct.


What sources, pray tell?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:00 pm

Ejercito Libertador del Sur wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So Trump is demanding a thing that the Constitution does not permit based on an entirely baseless concern.

Someone ask him if he's fine with President Pelosi, since that's where this path will lead.

If Trump delay the election,the president pro tempore of the senate will be the new president 8)


Hmm, seems you're right. I was going by Ford, but he was made VP after being Speaker.

It's Pres pro Tem of the new Senate though, so don't get your hopes up just yet ...
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:03 pm

Exxosia wrote:First, he genuinely has a point. Convenience voting, absentee voting, and mail-in voting are all rife for abuse and should probably be outlawed.

Second, the proportion of coronavirus deaths is massively inflated. Some sources putting it as high as 90%. And all responses to Covid-19 — a coronavirus — have been the opposite of what would be needed to quickly defeat it. Making it a worse endemic virus for profits and control was more important than anything else.

So if we are to cower in fear of a virus, we might as well suspend all elections until viruses are exterminated worldwide. Because if a virus of next to no considerable severity means we are this concerned, that the number of people dying from the response to it is three times more than from the virus, it is time to say we can no longer have public interaction in politics at all until all virus-based pathogens are extinct.


So one short paragraph in support of Trump, then two longer paragraphs saying he's full of shit. Hard to tell who's side you're on.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:09 pm

Godular wrote:
Exxosia wrote:First, he genuinely has a point. Convenience voting, absentee voting, and mail-in voting are all rife for abuse and should probably be outlawed.

Second, the proportion of coronavirus deaths is massively inflated. Some sources putting it as high as 90%. And all responses to Covid-19 — a coronavirus — have been the opposite of what would be needed to quickly defeat it. Making it a worse endemic virus for profits and control was more important than anything else.

So if we are to cower in fear of a virus, we might as well suspend all elections until viruses are exterminated worldwide. Because if a virus of next to no considerable severity means we are this concerned, that the number of people dying from the response to it is three times more than from the virus, it is time to say we can no longer have public interaction in politics at all until all virus-based pathogens are extinct.


What sources, pray tell?


The sources in the fat folds of Trump's chin.

And also, his own ignorance of pathology and pandemics. Worldwide the death rate is about 300,000 people, and America is what, half of that? 700,000 more people and it will be Asian Flu levels.

The danger of corona is it's INFECTION RATE, it's bizarrely long gestation period that can hide symptoms, and the fact that the death rate is a dice roll. Either you're fine or you fucking die, goodbye, see you later.

But hey yeah, fuck grampa and granma, what the fuck have they ever done for anybody.
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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:13 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Thing is votes are unsecured via mail.


And yet Trump himself does it often.

Pretty sure the CBS did some sort of experiment where only 27% votes got taken and recorded.

Did they ? Have a source or did you make it up :)?

Ooga booga muh source, Look it up mate.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 pm

Solvokina wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
And yet Trump himself does it often.


Did they ? Have a source or did you make it up :)?

Ooga booga muh source, Look it up mate.

I did. I could not find it.
I did find multiple sources showing there was no significant fraud, and that the little fraud there was was detected. Like when Trump put down the wrong address when registering - which for a normal person would mean jailtime.

To wit - here is one from your referenced CBS dated the 30th of july, which calls the claims "unsubstantiated".

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sugg ... e-by-mail/
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:18 pm

Solvokina wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
And yet Trump himself does it often.


Did they ? Have a source or did you make it up :)?

Ooga booga muh source, Look it up mate.


You're the one making shit up. You wanna make a statement, you fucking bring the source, or people can just go ahead and not look shit up.

Man, Trump has made people lazy as fuck about facts.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:23 pm

Solvokina wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
And yet Trump himself does it often.


Did they ? Have a source or did you make it up :)?

Ooga booga muh source, Look it up mate.


Argument from laziness. You understand "I can't be bothered" defeats that?
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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Ooga booga muh source, Look it up mate.

I did. I could not find it.
I did find multiple sources showing there was no significant fraud, and that the little fraud there was was detected. Like when Trump put down the wrong address when registering - which for a normal person would mean jailtime.

To wit - here is one from your referenced CBS dated the 30th of july, which calls the claims "unsubstantiated".

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sugg ... e-by-mail/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwqEIQ22XSA
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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:51 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Ooga booga muh source, Look it up mate.


You're the one making shit up. You wanna make a statement, you fucking bring the source, or people can just go ahead and not look shit up.

Man, Trump has made people lazy as fuck about facts.

No. The statement of "muh source" has been abused by too many people to the point I don't bother with them. Even in opinionated posts people say "source" its retarded
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Postby Diahon » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:05 am

trump, through his pick for head of the usps, is already trying to sabotage mail-in voting as we type, and there might be more electoral shenanigans afoot

as that's now the case, there's no choice but to risk contracting this virus, head to the polls to vote in person and en masse, and vote trump out

and if he loses and he doesn't acknowledge fucking shit, march on to washington by the millions if not tens of millions

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:06 am

Solvokina wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
You're the one making shit up. You wanna make a statement, you fucking bring the source, or people can just go ahead and not look shit up.

Man, Trump has made people lazy as fuck about facts.

No. The statement of "muh source" has been abused by too many people to the point I don't bother with them. Even in opinionated posts people say "source" its retarded


Right, how dare we expect you to provide evidence for things you claim as facts rather than just blindly accepting them as true because you spoke them.
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Postby Solvokina » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
Solvokina wrote:No. The statement of "muh source" has been abused by too many people to the point I don't bother with them. Even in opinionated posts people say "source" its retarded


Right, how dare we expect you to provide evidence for things you claim as facts rather than just blindly accepting them as true because you spoke them.

You don't have a right to talk as you try to prolonge arguments even when evidence has been shown and proved
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:25 am

Solvokina wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Right, how dare we expect you to provide evidence for things you claim as facts rather than just blindly accepting them as true because you spoke them.

You don't have a right to talk as you try to prolonge arguments even when evidence has been shown and proved


I've found out why you won't give a source.

It's because the source proves you wrong.
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Postby Blargoblarg » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:30 am

Since the president literally cannot legally delay the presidential election, I'm not all that concerned about this latest stupid thing Trump said on twitter.
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Postby Diahon » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:32 am

Blargoblarg wrote:Since the president literally cannot legally delay the presidential election, I'm not all that concerned about this latest stupid thing Trump said on twitter.


lots of things trump does are illegal

and yet

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:32 am

Solvokina wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I did. I could not find it.
I did find multiple sources showing there was no significant fraud, and that the little fraud there was was detected. Like when Trump put down the wrong address when registering - which for a normal person would mean jailtime.

To wit - here is one from your referenced CBS dated the 30th of july, which calls the claims "unsubstantiated".

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sugg ... e-by-mail/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwqEIQ22XSA
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There, was that so hard ?
So why do you believe this is more convincing than those other 100 which contradict it ?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:34 am

Blargoblarg wrote:Since the president literally cannot legally delay the presidential election, I'm not all that concerned about this latest stupid thing Trump said on twitter.


Well, he can convince others that it should be delayed. That is perfectly legal.
He won't be president himself in the interim either - that would be Pelosi.

So his idea is as such not even so bad; even though it is purely motivated by "If I lose to Biden,I can claim mailfraud".
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