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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:35 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Probably almost none. You can tell by how there is already mail-in voting in the US and there's never been a big problem.

Voter fraud is just part and parcel of the U.S. electoral system. My mom allegedly voted for Clinton last election, except for the fact she was home all day that day. You think mail-in ballots don't conveniently go missing? Hell, 65,000 ballots were flat out rejected due to being too late, because the mail is slow.


People should vote as soon as they get the mail ballot. Leave plenty of time.

State governments could help too, by extending the time for the mail to arrive by a week. Or two weeks. It does delay the final numbers by that long but the last few ballots to limp in are unlikely to change statewide results.

Trump's whole campaign against postal voting is based on the untested idea that Dem voters are more likely to use postal than Rep voters. Wouldn't it be funny if it's actually the other way around?
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:37 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Probably almost none. You can tell by how there is already mail-in voting in the US and there's never been a big problem.

Voter fraud is just part and parcel of the U.S. electoral system.
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My mom allegedly voted for Clinton last election, except for the fact she was home all day that day. You think mail-in ballots don't conveniently go missing? Hell, 65,000 ballots were flat out rejected due to being too late, because the mail is slow.

Neither of those claims are evidence of what you think they are.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:40 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Probably almost none. You can tell by how there is already mail-in voting in the US and there's never been a big problem.

Voter fraud is just part and parcel of the U.S. electoral system. My mom allegedly voted for Clinton last election, except for the fact she was home all day that day. You think mail-in ballots don't conveniently go missing? Hell, 65,000 ballots were flat out rejected due to being too late, because the mail is slow.


Leave it to Trump supporters to argue in favor and neutrality towards corruption. :roll:
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:45 pm

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Broader Confederate States wrote:Voter fraud is just part and parcel of the U.S. electoral system. My mom allegedly voted for Clinton last election, except for the fact she was home all day that day. You think mail-in ballots don't conveniently go missing? Hell, 65,000 ballots were flat out rejected due to being too late, because the mail is slow.


Leave it to Trump supporters to argue in favor and neutrality towards corruption. :roll:

Leave it to Biden supporters to assume the motivations of other people, or their political affiliations for that matter. :roll:
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:52 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Leave it to Trump supporters to argue in favor and neutrality towards corruption. :roll:

Leave it to Biden supporters to assume the motivations of other people, or their political affiliations for that matter. :roll:


What percentage of all primary mail-in ballots were too late to be counted? Your source says "less than 1% in most states".

Big numbers don't scare me. Only percentages do that.
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Postby Godular » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:53 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Probably almost none. You can tell by how there is already mail-in voting in the US and there's never been a big problem.

Voter fraud is just part and parcel of the U.S. electoral system. My mom allegedly voted for Clinton last election, except for the fact she was home all day that day. You think mail-in ballots don't conveniently go missing? Hell, 65,000 ballots were flat out rejected due to being too late, because the mail is slow.


Mayhap I am confused, but how can one know if a vote had been entered in their name if they were not personally present to do so?
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:53 pm

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Broader Confederate States wrote:Voter fraud is just part and parcel of the U.S. electoral system. My mom allegedly voted for Clinton last election, except for the fact she was home all day that day. You think mail-in ballots don't conveniently go missing? Hell, 65,000 ballots were flat out rejected due to being too late, because the mail is slow.


Mayhap I am confused, but how can one know if a vote had been entered in their name if they were not personally present to do so?

After the fact phone call thanking her for the vote she didn't cast.
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Postby Godular » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:55 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
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Mayhap I am confused, but how can one know if a vote had been entered in their name if they were not personally present to do so?

After the fact phone call thanking her for the vote she didn't cast.


Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:58 pm

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Broader Confederate States wrote:After the fact phone call thanking her for the vote she didn't cast.


Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?

Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.
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Postby Godular » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:59 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
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Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?

Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.


Cool anecdote.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:00 pm

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Broader Confederate States wrote:After the fact phone call thanking her for the vote she didn't cast.


Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?


Probably for the same reasons telemarketers cold-call people, to get them interested in what they’re peddling.
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:00 pm

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Broader Confederate States wrote:Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.


Cool anecdote.

Sorry I didn't have the foresight to whip out a camera and start filming the phone seconds before the call happened, I would have if I knew to.
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Postby Godular » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:04 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Godular wrote:
Cool anecdote.

Sorry I didn't have the foresight to whip out a camera and start filming the phone seconds before the call happened, I would have if I knew to.


It wouldn’t matter. I have no cause to believe you anyway. Candidates don’t get access to who voted for whom, and there would be no reason for such a call to exist unless it was a prank, or a wrong number call thanking a donor for their support.
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Postby Autumn Wind » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:48 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Godular wrote:
Cool anecdote.

Sorry I didn't have the foresight to whip out a camera and start filming the phone seconds before the call happened, I would have if I knew to.


There is no public record of how individual votes are cast. There are records of whether or not someone voted, but not how they voted. Your mom likely received a robocall based on her voter registration. If you believe that her vote was compromised you should report it. Also, I know plenty of people who voted in the last election, and none of them reported receiving thank you calls. I find it highly unlikely that the Clinton campaign would have singled out you mother due a fraudulent vote (Thus unnecessarily exposing their unlawful activity) and more likely the work of some troll farm putting out disinformation and/or an ID theft scheme.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:53 pm

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Broader Confederate States wrote:Sorry I didn't have the foresight to whip out a camera and start filming the phone seconds before the call happened, I would have if I knew to.


There is no public record of how individual votes are cast. There are records of whether or not someone voted, but not how they voted. Your mom likely received a robocall based on her voter registration. If you believe that her vote was compromised you should report it. Also, I know plenty of people who voted in the last election, and none of them reported receiving thank you calls. I find it highly unlikely that the Clinton campaign would have singled out you mother due a fraudulent vote (Thus unnecessarily exposing their unlawful activity) and more likely the work of some troll farm putting out disinformation and/or an ID theft scheme.
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Broader Confederate States wrote:Sorry I didn't have the foresight to whip out a camera and start filming the phone seconds before the call happened, I would have if I knew to.


It wouldn’t matter. I have no cause to believe you anyway. Candidates don’t get access to who voted for whom, and there would be no reason for such a call to exist unless it was a prank, or a wrong number call thanking a donor for their support.


Y'all really need to stop using facts. It gets in the way of the narrative.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:46 am

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Godular wrote:
Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?

Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.

Yeah...I got a phone call telling me that the warranty on my 50 year old car was about to run out, too.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:52 am

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Godular wrote:
Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?

Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.


Ah yes, I remember being at a KKK gathering with good old Freddy Trump. He has brought his son Donald along for the first time, and while the little girl was burning at the cross Fred pulled her arm of and fed it to little Donnyboy. When I saw the look of utter delight on his face I knew he was destined to make America great again.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:49 am

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Godular wrote:
Why the hell would anybody call to thank someone for voting?

Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.


I was away from my keyboard when it dawned on me: "how would BCS even know their mother voted for Clinton?"

And I thought how I would talk my way out of it, if I had told such a lie.
Best I could come up with: "the dirty scoundrel who did it showed me a hard copy of the vote"

You should have gone with that.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:59 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Broader Confederate States wrote:Ask Hillary Clinton. All I know is I was standing right in front of her when the call happened and she had it on speakerphone.


I was away from my keyboard when it dawned on me: "how would BCS even know their mother voted for Clinton?"

And I thought how I would talk my way out of it, if I had told such a lie.
Best I could come up with: "the dirty scoundrel who did it showed me a hard copy of the vote"

You should have gone with that.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:09 am

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The Rich Port wrote:
Leave it to Trump supporters to argue in favor and neutrality towards corruption. :roll:

Leave it to Biden supporters to assume the motivations of other people, or their political affiliations for that matter. :roll:


You argue in favor of corruption, you're an honorary Trump supporter.

Also, ugly Confederate flag, check.

Unfunny memes about anti-communism, misguided anti-police protests, and "partisan bickering" (Democrats holding Republicans accountable and being held to a double standard about it), check.

Insipid dislike of Hillary Clinton, check.

"Anti-federalist", check.

Trump saying windmills cause cancer is somehow the single worst thing he's done, check.

My mistake clearly you're a Bernie Bro and you want socialism.

But I mean hey if I am wrong go ahead, splain yourself, Lucy.

Also since we're throwing stones, my first pick was Bernie Sanders.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:03 am

So this hasn't worked, I wonder who he will invade.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:05 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:So this hasn't worked, I wonder who he will invade.


The nearest Panda Express to the White House.

Anderson Cooper is going to be pointing a camera at Trump's butt poking out of the freezer while he wrestles the boxes of noodles, screaming "WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE PANDAS."
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:07 am

The Rich Port wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:So this hasn't worked, I wonder who he will invade.


The nearest Panda Express to the White House.

Anderson Cooper is going to be pointing a camera at Trump's butt poking out of the freezer while he wrestles the boxes of noodles, screaming "WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE PANDAS."


I'm thinking more Venezuela.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:08 am

Thepeopl wrote:https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-united-states-election-delay-voter-fraud-1.5669270

"Saveface" tactics?


That and deflecting attention away from the economic crash he's presiding over.
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