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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:30 pm

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Floridamanstan wrote:He won’t be able to make it happen but imo with coronavirus it should be delayed so it doesn’t lead to another wave.

It can’t be past a certain point as Congress’s term ends on January 3rd and the president and Vice President At noon on January 20th. Confess must meet January 3rd to certify the electoral college and the Vice President presides: there is no way around it


Senator McConnell said no US presidential election had ever been delayed before.

"Never in the history of this country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time. We will find a way to do that again this November third," he told local Kentucky station WNKY.

Mr McCarthy echoed him. "Never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election and we should go forward with our election," he said.


It's not going to happen lol
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:32 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It can’t be past a certain point as Congress’s term ends on January 3rd and the president and Vice President At noon on January 20th. Confess must meet January 3rd to certify the electoral college and the Vice President presides: there is no way around it


Senator McConnell said no US presidential election had ever been delayed before.

"Never in the history of this country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time. We will find a way to do that again this November third," he told local Kentucky station WNKY.

Mr McCarthy echoed him. "Never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election and we should go forward with our election," he said.


It's not going to happen lol


If McConnell said it then thats it. Its not happening

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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:39 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:This title is extremely misleading and outright false. Trump ranting on Twitter is not an executive order, and Trump does not have the authority to delay the election at all. Even if he somehow does, Pelosi will become the Acting President if it is delayed beyond January.

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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:40 pm

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Senator McConnell said no US presidential election had ever been delayed before.

"Never in the history of this country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time. We will find a way to do that again this November third," he told local Kentucky station WNKY.

Mr McCarthy echoed him. "Never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election and we should go forward with our election," he said.


It's not going to happen lol


If McConnell said it then thats it. Its not happening


Never underestimate McConnell's overwhelming desire to keep Nancy Pelosi from becoming the acting President.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:08 pm

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If McConnell said it then thats it. Its not happening


Never underestimate McConnell's overwhelming desire to keep Nancy Pelosi from becoming the acting President.

Lets not forgot he told Former Governor Matt Bevin to prove allegations of fraud or step aside.

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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:13 pm

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Never underestimate McConnell's overwhelming desire to keep Nancy Pelosi from becoming the acting President.

Lets not forgot he told Former Governor Matt Bevin to prove allegations of fraud or step aside.


McConnell is a snake, don't expect him to do anything unless it benefits him. Said action being "good" is just an unintended side effect.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:14 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Lets not forgot he told Former Governor Matt Bevin to prove allegations of fraud or step aside.


McConnell is a snake, don't expect him to do anything unless it benefits him. Said action being "good" is just an unintended side effect.

How did Bevin accepting defeat benefit him?

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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:15 pm

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McConnell is a snake, don't expect him to do anything unless it benefits him. Said action being "good" is just an unintended side effect.

How did Bevin accepting defeat benefit him?


Makes him look like a good enough guy for people like you to come to his defense, apparently.
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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:15 pm

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Drongonia wrote:The mail-in vote thing is a legitimate concern. I would never want to mail in a vote for anything, ever.


As a side question, if that is such a big concern, why is the USA not digital yet ? It is 2020. You do your taxes online, manage your pension and insurance online, your medical records are online, all banking is online etc. And lets be fair - my savings matter much more than who is president ;)

So why not the elections ? Yes, there would be a barrier for poor people and people who fear computers; but the current system is also filled with barriers to prevent certain demographics to vote. So that would not be a change of principles.

No, computers aren't a solution

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:15 pm

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The Federalist Society Co founder Steven Calabresi called Trump's tweet about delaying the election fascist an and impeachable offense. This could very well be his 47 percent comment which is widely considered to have ended Romney's bid in 2012.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:16 pm

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The Alma Mater wrote:
As a side question, if that is such a big concern, why is the USA not digital yet ? It is 2020. You do your taxes online, manage your pension and insurance online, your medical records are online, all banking is online etc. And lets be fair - my savings matter much more than who is president ;)

So why not the elections ? Yes, there would be a barrier for poor people and people who fear computers; but the current system is also filled with barriers to prevent certain demographics to vote. So that would not be a change of principles.

No, computers aren't a solution

>inb4 unreliable because youtuber, ironically Tom Scott is educated in CS


Well Trump disagrees and is using emergency powers to make voting online in 2020.
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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:18 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Solvokina wrote:No, computers aren't a solution

>inb4 unreliable because youtuber, ironically Tom Scott is educated in CS


Well Trump disagrees and is using emergency powers to make voting online in 2020.

I'm willing to bet money someone is gonna have some malicious idea to rig the vote via hacking or on the inside to give votes on ones favour
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:19 pm

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Greed and Death wrote:Well Trump disagrees and is using emergency powers to make voting online in 2020.

I'm willing to bet money someone is gonna have some malicious idea to rig the vote via hacking or on the inside to give votes on ones favour

The Kremlin denies everything.


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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm

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Solvokina wrote:I'm willing to bet money someone is gonna have some malicious idea to rig the vote via hacking or on the inside to give votes on ones favour

The Kremlin denies everything.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:35 pm

Fuck me i forgot how the police, DHS, and BP would play into this. We wouldn't lose but we might have a problem on that hands holy shit.
One only hopes that trump is thinking the NG and military will do the work and not the others or we're fucked.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:37 pm

Uiiop wrote:Fuck me i forgot how the police, DHS, and BP would play into this. We wouldn't lose but we might have a problem on that hands holy shit.
One only hopes that trump is thinking the NG and military will do the work and not the others or we're fucked.

There will be no coup. This nonsense needs to stop

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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:41 pm

Uiiop wrote:Fuck me i forgot how the police, DHS, and BP would play into this. We wouldn't lose but we might have a problem on that hands holy shit.
One only hopes that trump is thinking the NG and military will do the work and not the others or we're fucked.

There's not gonna be a coup. That's a stupid line of thinking.
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Postby Solvokina » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:42 pm

Uiiop wrote:Fuck me i forgot how the police, DHS, and BP would play into this. We wouldn't lose but we might have a problem on that hands holy shit.
One only hopes that trump is thinking the NG and military will do the work and not the others or we're fucked.

A coup won't happen
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:45 pm

Atheris wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Fuck me i forgot how the police, DHS, and BP would play into this. We wouldn't lose but we might have a problem on that hands holy shit.
One only hopes that trump is thinking the NG and military will do the work and not the others or we're fucked.

There's not gonna be a coup. That's a stupid line of thinking.

The cops already have Get out of jail free cards and the federal troops are already breaking the constitution with nothing done than possibly being made to relocate.
It's not a guarantee and like hell it would succeed but the chances of it being attempted are not to be dismissed lightly.
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:45 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Atheris wrote:There's not gonna be a coup. That's a stupid line of thinking.

The cops already have Get out of jail free cards and the federal troops are already breaking the constitution with nothing done than possibly being made to relocate.
It's not a guarantee and like hell it would succeed but the chances of it being attempted are not to be dismissed lightly.

The chances of it being attempted are to be dismissed lightly. It's not going to happen.
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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:48 pm

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San Lumen wrote:It can’t be past a certain point as Congress’s term ends on January 3rd and the president and Vice President At noon on January 20th. Confess must meet January 3rd to certify the electoral college and the Vice President presides: there is no way around it


Senator McConnell said no US presidential election had ever been delayed before.

"Never in the history of this country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time. We will find a way to do that again this November third," he told local Kentucky station WNKY.

Mr McCarthy echoed him. "Never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election and we should go forward with our election," he said.


It's not going to happen lol


He thinks he has a chance to do what hasn't been done even when the country was in fucking pieces?

It's probably fine.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:48 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Atheris wrote:There's not gonna be a coup. That's a stupid line of thinking.

The cops already have Get out of jail free cards and the federal troops are already breaking the constitution with nothing done than possibly being made to relocate.
It's not a guarantee and like hell it would succeed but the chances of it being attempted are not to be dismissed lightly.

There will no coup. It would be a betrayal of their oath.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:48 pm

Atheris wrote:
Uiiop wrote:The cops already have Get out of jail free cards and the federal troops are already breaking the constitution with nothing done than possibly being made to relocate.
It's not a guarantee and like hell it would succeed but the chances of it being attempted are not to be dismissed lightly.

The chances of it being attempted are to be dismissed lightly. It's not going to happen.

In a world where Portland didn't happen and the NYPD aren't Q supporters who skirts bans on killing people i would believe.
Sadly we don't live in that world.
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Uiiop wrote:The cops already have Get out of jail free cards and the federal troops are already breaking the constitution with nothing done than possibly being made to relocate.
It's not a guarantee and like hell it would succeed but the chances of it being attempted are not to be dismissed lightly.

There will no coup. It would be a betrayal of their oath.

And tear gassing peacful protesters somehow isn't one?
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:50 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Atheris wrote:The chances of it being attempted are to be dismissed lightly. It's not going to happen.

In a world where Portland didn't happen and the NYPD aren't Q supporters who skirts bans on killing people i would believe.
Sadly we don't live in that world.
San Lumen wrote:There will no coup. It would be a betrayal of their oath.

And tear gassing peacful protesters somehow isn't one?

Listen, man. A coup will not happen. It didn't happen in 1861, 1862, 1863, 1864, or 1865. In the middle of a fucking civil war. Hell, elections still happened in 1864. There will be no coup. Saying there's even a chance of one is stupid.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:56 pm

Atheris wrote:
Uiiop wrote:In a world where Portland didn't happen and the NYPD aren't Q supporters who skirts bans on killing people i would believe.
Sadly we don't live in that world.

And tear gassing peacful protesters somehow isn't one?

Listen, man. A coup will not happen. It didn't happen in 1861, 1862, 1863, 1864, or 1865. In the middle of a fucking civil war. Hell, elections still happened in 1864. There will be no coup. Saying there's even a chance of one is stupid.

Your normalcy bias is noted but it doesn't prove me wrong. We didn't have the partisan bias of institutional forces and the mix of incompetent narcissistic leader back then.
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