Trump to delay the election

[The Alma Mater]

The mail-in vote thing is a legitimate concern. I would never want to mail in a vote for anything, ever.

As a side question, if that is such a big concern, why is the USA not digital yet ? It is 2020. You do your taxes online, manage your pension and insurance online, your medical records are online, all banking is online etc. And lets be fair - my savings matter much more than who is president

So why not the elections ? Yes, there would be a barrier for poor people and people who fear computers; but the current system is also filled with barriers to prevent certain demographics to vote. So that would not be a change of principles.

[Lower Nubia]

Jobs were better under Trump and theres two things decent people hate more than anything. Kid fidlers and Marxism. And the demo chose a candidate who exemplifies one and doesnt oppose the other enough.

The economy right now is bust, so it's useless to bring up jobs now. Also decent people hate blunders, like Trump's handling of the coronavirus.

Depends if their sources call it a blunder.

[Vassenor]

The economy going into a massive contraction isn't bad for Trump's ability to run on a strong economy?

Nope, because nobody believes it. Mainly because the people saying it will not be believed.

And you base this on what?

[Lower Nubia]

The economy going into a massive contraction isn't bad for Trump's ability to run on a strong economy?

Nope, because nobody believes it. Mainly because the people saying it will not be believed.

You must of escaped the circus.

[Picairn]

Did you know that people routinely do things that are illegal?

Well I don't think Trump is an omnipotent overlord to be able to command 50 states cancelling the election under his order.

[Marxist Germany]

You must've forgotten which side caused this economic crash.

The virus side? Or the side that didn't respond to the virus to protect people?

The side which shut down economies across the globe.

[Geneviev]

The economy going into a massive contraction isn't bad for Trump's ability to run on a strong economy?

Nope, because nobody believes it. Mainly because the people saying it will not be believed.

Everyone who is currently unemployed will definitely believe Trump when he talks about jobs. So will all of the people being evicted soon. Because they don't trust Democrats.

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Valrifell]

Did you know that people routinely do things that are illegal?

Well I don't think Trump is an omnipotent overlord to be able to command 50 states cancelling the election under his order.

The important thing for him is to cause doubt about the integrity of the election, because he can't stand the thought of himself losing. Throwing doubt about the election is opening up the possibility for violence during the transfer of power.

While calling to delay the election is bad, it's not as bad as him constantly railing against the inevitable prominant use of mail-in ballots (it's become his new "millions of illegals bussed in to vote"), because on that front loads of Republicans will believe him. Who knows what they'll do if they think Joe Biden took power illegally?

[The Alma Mater]

Nope, because nobody believes it. Mainly because the people saying it will not be believed.

Everyone who is currently unemployed will definitely believe Trump when he talks about jobs. So will all of the people being evicted soon. Because they don't trust Democrats.

Yeah, that makes sense.

It is all Obamas fault. Did you not know ?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Bastard wants to do bastard things. Color me surprised.

The sooner that two-faced snake is out of office the better off we'll all be.

[The Alma Mater]

Well I don't think Trump is an omnipotent overlord to be able to command 50 states cancelling the election under his order.

The important thing for him is to cause doubt about the integrity of the election, because he can't stand the thought of himself losing. Throwing doubt about the election is opening up the possibility for violence during the transfer of power.

While calling to delay the election is bad, it's not as bad as him constantly railing against the inevitable prominant use of mail-in ballots (it's become his new "millions of illegals bussed in to vote"), because on that front loads of Republicans will believe him. Who knows what they'll do if they think Joe Biden took power illegally?

Did they riot when a few barrels of votes that had mysteriously vanished and helped Bush jr to win the election turned up ?

[Geneviev]

The virus side? Or the side that didn't respond to the virus to protect people?

The side which shut down economies across the globe.

Ah, the side that could have saved lives with some leadership from Trump. And could have reopened safely by now.

[Soiled fruit roll ups]

Nope, because nobody believes it. Mainly because the people saying it will not be believed.

And you base this on what?

Nobody winning arguments with the best sources anymore.

The person who comes away looking best from any disagreement always seems to be the most centrist normal sounding hetro cis one.

Like being FN and gay has lost me more discussions at my local gay Cafe than my having no education and the IQ of a moldy potato.

People just don't want to hear it.

[Valrifell]

The important thing for him is to cause doubt about the integrity of the election, because he can't stand the thought of himself losing. Throwing doubt about the election is opening up the possibility for violence during the transfer of power.

While calling to delay the election is bad, it's not as bad as him constantly railing against the inevitable prominant use of mail-in ballots (it's become his new "millions of illegals bussed in to vote"), because on that front loads of Republicans will believe him. Who knows what they'll do if they think Joe Biden took power illegally?

Did they riot when a few barrels of votes that had mysteriously vanished and helped Bush jr to win the election turned up ?

2004 was a different, less politically charged, time.

[Valrifell]

And you base this on what?

Nobody winning arguments with the best sources anymore.

The person who comes away looking best from any disagreement always seems to be the most centrist normal sounding hetro cis one.

Like being FN and gay has lost me more discussions at my local gay Cafe than my having no education and the IQ of a moldy potato.

People just don't want to hear it.

what

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

He must be pretty desperate, to play his last trump card like that, to distract people from the appalling US economic news.

[Geneviev]

Everyone who is currently unemployed will definitely believe Trump when he talks about jobs. So will all of the people being evicted soon. Because they don't trust Democrats.

Yeah, that makes sense.

It is all Obamas fault. Did you not know ?

Right right right. How could I forget? Everything is his fault.

[Saiwania]

As a side question, if that is such a big concern, why is the USA not digital yet ? It is 2020. You do your taxes online, manage your pension and insurance online, your medical records are online, all banking is online etc. And lets be fair - my savings matter much more than who is president

Anything digital, I don't have faith in its permanence. It could easily be deleted or altered should there be no local backup as proof should you happen to actually need it. The US doesn't even have automated/free tax filing yet from the IRS. It would apparently endanger the profits of companies like Intuit, whose Turbotax products would become useless if people were able to have their taxes calculated by the IRS and only have to verify their deductions and etc. like in other well off countries.

Intuit spends a lot of money to ensure that citizens of the US have to calculate their own taxes as opposed to having the IRS do it. Which will make it more likely for people in the US to want to buy Turbotax to do that for them.

If the US can't have tax filing be all digital, chances are neither can the voting.

[Drystar]

The mail-in vote thing is a legitimate concern. I would never want to mail in a vote for anything, ever.

Mail-in voting happens every election, they're called Absentee ballots. And someone in Utah or Oregon correct me if I'm wrong, but it's completely safe and secure.

Since I’m from Oregon, and have been voting by mail since 2001, I can tell you a few things about it. First, you register at either DMV or at the county electors office. On your registration card you sign your name, this is what they check your ballot against. Now come election season, first you get your voters pamphlet, and those tend to be different depending on your registration. Then a few days later you get your ballot. Big thick white envelope, with the words ballot enclosed stamped on it. Inside you’ll find three things, a ballot, a ballot envelope with a place for your signature, and a return envelope. Now you don’t have to actually mail your ballot back, you can drop it off at various secure drop boxes, normally at sheriffs offices, county courthouses, places of that nature, right up to the election deadline. But if you do want to mail it in, then you place the completed ballot in the secure envelope, which if tampered with invalidates the ballot, then you place that envelope inside the return mail envelope and drop it in the mail. It has to be postmarked by a certain date if sent by mail, but like I mentioned before, if you miss that date, you can still drop it off at the secure locations. Then all the ballots go to one counting location from all over the state. Works pretty well for us, but then we tend to be uncomplicated unlike all you trying to borrow trouble.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

It is all Obamas fault. Did you not know ?

Right right right. How could I forget? Everything is his fault.

Everything!

9/11? Obama.
Vietnam? Obama.
Nazi Germany? Obama.
Civil War? Obama.
Black Death? Obama.
Crusades? Obama.
Fall of Rome? Obama.
Jesus' Crucifixion? Obama.
Adam & Eve? Obama.

[Major-Tom]

The mail-in vote thing is a legitimate concern. I would never want to mail in a vote for anything, ever.

It's not, there's no evidence behind it, you're not even American etc etc etc.

[Atheris]

It is all Obamas fault. Did you not know ?

Right right right. How could I forget? Everything is his fault.

People don't like lemon oreos because of Obama.

[The New California Republic]

The mail-in vote thing is a legitimate concern. I would never want to mail in a vote for anything, ever.

As a side question, if that is such a big concern, why is the USA not digital yet ? It is 2020. You do your taxes online, manage your pension and insurance online, your medical records are online, all banking is online etc. And lets be fair - my savings matter much more than who is president

So why not the elections ? Yes, there would be a barrier for poor people and people who fear computers; but the current system is also filled with barriers to prevent certain demographics to vote. So that would not be a change of principles.

Tbh it's the same in the UK, we still rely on paper ballots. Electronic voting machines have been discussed but since nobody is really pressing the matter then it hasn't really gone anywhere.

[Ifreann]

Bastard wants to do bastard things. Color me surprised.

The sooner that two-faced snake is out of office the better off we'll all be.

Gonna be weird watching him try to not be President any more. He'll still be on Twitter constantly, I wouldn't be surprised if he carries on doing rallies.

[No State Here]

Please tell me this isn't real. This can't be real.

What’s not real?