Should the death penalty's "appeals process" be scrapped?

[The Holy Therns]

Why not scrap the appeals process and tell the trial judge to get it right the first time?)

Because that's a solution about as reasonable as amputating your leg because your foot hurts.

[Katganistan]

How about we scrap the death penalty?

Good idea. It doesn't work as a deterrent, innocent people have been put to death as DNA evidence has proven after the fact, it can cause people to kill witnesses/victims because if they can't talk, you might not die, and it costs more to try to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life with three hots and a cot and health care.

[FutureAmerica]

Yes, it should be scrapped, otherwise get rid of the death penalty.

[Heloin]

Yes, it should be scrapped, otherwise get rid of the death penalty.

If the state can't murder willy nilly then the state shouldn't be killing people is an odd approach but I'm fine with the ending the death penalty part.

[Cekoviu]

Yes, it should be scrapped, otherwise get rid of the death penalty.

If the state can't murder willy nilly then the state shouldn't be killing people is an odd approach but I'm fine with the ending the death penalty part.

it makes sense from a financial point of view, if your sole goal is to decrease state spending - the appeals process is part of why the death penalty costs so much, so without it the death penalty is much cheaper. alternatively, not having a death penalty also decreases expenses. it's kind of a reductionist approach, but it can make internal logical sense.

[Trollgaard]

No, I don't think it should be.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Sometimes there are too many appeals in some jurisdictions.

[Organized States]

There's legitimately no need for the civilian population to have the death penalty. So...

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

No. The entire idea of the state choosing life or death over anyone when not in a war should be done away with.

The state should not have the right to execute its own people or anyone else outside of war.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Sometimes there are too many appeals in some jurisdictions.

You can never have too much due process.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Sometimes there are too many appeals in some jurisdictions.

You can never have too much due process.

Yes you can. We have people who's guilt is beyond dispute and they're on death row for decades. Only a small percentage of people on death row are innocent, but we have problems putting serial killers down.

I'm for due process, but it can be taken too far. People like Richard Ramirez should have been quickly executed.

[Ifreann]

You can never have too much due process.

Yes you can. We have people who's guilt is beyond dispute and they're on death row for decades. Only a small percentage of people on death row are innocent, but we have problems putting serial killers down.

I'm for due process, but it can be taken too far. People like Richard Ramirez should have been quickly executed.

Why?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

You can never have too much due process.

Yes you can. We have people who's guilt is beyond dispute and they're on death row for decades. Only a small percentage of people on death row are innocent, but we have problems putting serial killers down.

I'm for due process, but it can be taken too far. People like Richard Ramirez should have been quickly executed.

The only acceptable percentage of people on death row who are innocent should be 0%.

In fact there should not be a death row, as the state should never have the right to take away there or anyone else lives.

[The Emerald Legion]

The appeals process should also apply to life sentences.

[Ifreann]

The appeals process should also apply to life sentences.

Abolish life sentences.

[The Emerald Legion]

[quote="Ifreann";p="37470949"][quote="The Emerald Legion";p="37470948"]The appeals process should also apply to life sentences.[/quote]
Abolish life sentences.[/quote]

To be fair, in an ideal world yes. Life sentences make no damn sense, because without the appeals process, there isn't really any hope of getting it overturned.

Might as well just kill them. For all the difference it makes.

[Thermodolia]

The appeals process should also apply to life sentences.

Abolish life sentences.

Ya no. Life sentences should replace the death penalty

[The Emerald Legion]

Abolish life sentences.

Ya no. Life sentences should replace the death penalty

Not really, no.

[Thermodolia]

Ya no. Life sentences should replace the death penalty

Not really, no.

Yes really. The death penalty shouldn’t exist.

[The Emerald Legion]

Not really, no.

Yes really. The death penalty shouldn’t exist.

No, life sentences shouldn't exist.

[Cisairse]

Yes really. The death penalty shouldn’t exist.

No, life sentences shouldn't exist.

Neither should exist.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No, life sentences shouldn't exist.

Neither should exist.

At least keep life sentences. Serial killers don't deserve parole and many remain dangerous throughout life.

[Very High IQ]

The appeals process should also apply to life sentences.

Abolish life sentences.

Would this mean that unrehabilitatable criminals would be let out on the streets after their sentences were up? In Brazil, the maximum penalty is 30 years, and some Brazilian serial killer said that he would go back to killing once his time was up

[The Reformed American Republic]

Abolish life sentences.

Would this mean that unrehabilitatable criminals would be let out on the streets after their sentences were up? In Brazil, the maximum penalty is 30 years, and some Brazilian serial killer said that he would go back to killing once his time was up

But apparently some people believe that life in prison is inherently cruel and unusual.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Would this mean that unrehabilitatable criminals would be let out on the streets after their sentences were up? In Brazil, the maximum penalty is 30 years, and some Brazilian serial killer said that he would go back to killing once his time was up

But apparently some people believe that life in prison is inherently cruel and unusual.

Given what we’ve heard and seen what happens in American prisons across the country, it kinda is cruel and unusual, to be fair.