Taiwan: Chinese Sending Military Planes "Almost Daily"

[Shanghai industrial complex]

1. Elsewhere, Chinese lenders have been forgiving to debtor nations and institutions unable to repay their BRI debts. The consultancy Rhodium examined 38 BRI loans over the past decade where 24 borrowing nations had difficulty meeting repayments. It found 14 debt write-offs (involving Botswana, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cuba, Ghana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Sudan, Vanuatu and Zimbabwe), 11 repayment deferrals, and various refinancing and debt term changes. In total, about US$50bn of Chinese loans have been renegotiated so far.
?where is wrong?
2.OK....So they still have the ability to repay these debts?

1. Again, China has renegotiated money for natural resources. Please, follow along, it's getting annoying having to repeat myself.
2. See point 1.

Where do you get information about natural resources?Don't you know the meaning of the word write off?Instead of relying on your own guess, why don't you point out the mistakes in this article.You have to repeat yourself, of course, because you can't refute it.

[Picairn]

Sri Lanka is not an African nation, but the story of how it let China take a strategic port, the Hambantota, for 99 years should be a cautionary lesson for any country willing to borrow from China.

[Ethel mermania]

...Uh sure. A conventional war to invade a nuclear power is likely going to go nuclear, especially if the power in question is losing. It should also be noted that it would only take one or two warheads to fuck up either power for years. You keep deluding yourself mate, meanwhile in reality, I'll be hoping that this doesn't escalate.

I guarantee war between the two won't go nuclear, its gonna go naval until one side loses and gets invaded

Two carriers get sunk, you wanna guarantee the US doesnt go nuclear? I will take a piece of that.

[New haven america]

1. Again, China has renegotiated money for natural resources. Please, follow along, it's getting annoying having to repeat myself.
2. See point 1.

Where do you get information about natural resources?Don't you know the meaning of the word write off?Instead of relying on your own guess, why don't you point out the mistakes in this article.You have to repeat yourself, of course, because you can't refute it.

From your own post: "and various refinancing and debt term changes. In total, about US$50bn of Chinese loans have been renegotiated so far."

What the fuck do you think they renegotiated that missing debt payment for? Lollipops, pennywhistles, and unicorns?

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Where do you get information about natural resources?Don't you know the meaning of the word write off?Instead of relying on your own guess, why don't you point out the mistakes in this article.You have to repeat yourself, of course, because you can't refute it.

From your own post: "and various refinancing and debt term changes. In total, about US$50bn of Chinese loans have been renegotiated so far."

What the fuck do you think they renegotiated that missing debt payment for? Lollipops, pennywhistles, and unicorns?

Oh, so that's your guess?Does debt cancellation need no renegotiation?For the damn communism,It's none of your business.Why don't you Google to verify your idea?Do people now think that the ideas in their minds are all reality?

[New haven america]

From your own post: "and various refinancing and debt term changes. In total, about US$50bn of Chinese loans have been renegotiated so far."

What the fuck do you think they renegotiated that missing debt payment for? Lollipops, pennywhistles, and unicorns?

1. Oh, so that's your guess? 2. Does debt cancellation need no renegotiation? 3. For the damn communism,It's none of your business.Why don't you Google to verify your idea?Do people now think that the ideas in their minds are all reality?

1. Not my guess, fact. China's taking up resources in the same way that European powers did so during The Colonial Era. In fact, China's making The Scramble for Africa look like child's play by comparison.
2. Debt Cancelation=/=Renegotiation. Those are two different things and require different processes to go through.
3. Does anyone know what they're ranting about here?

[New haven america]

I guarantee war between the two won't go nuclear, its gonna go naval until one side loses and gets invaded

Two carriers get sunk, you wanna guarantee the US doesnt go nuclear? I will take a piece of that.

China doesn't even have the power to destroy 1 carrier though.

Most of their Navy is made up of Russian and South American ships that were made in the 80's and 90's.

[Picairn]

China doesn't even have the power to destroy 1 carrier though.

Most of their Navy is made up of Russian and South American ships that were made in the 80's and 90's.

Facts. Even their two carriers were built on the old "ski jump" runway model.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

China doesn't even have the power to destroy 1 carrier though.

Most of their Navy is made up of Russian and South American ships that were made in the 80's and 90's.

Facts. Even their two carriers were built on the old "ski jump" runway model.

Iirc, the first one was a purchased carrier from Ukraine, while the other one was recently constructed.

Also, ski jumps took up a lot of space, right? That would put them at a disadvantage in a naval confrontation with any naval-focused country.

[Picairn]

Also, ski jumps took up a lot of space, right? That would put them at a disadvantage in a naval confrontation with any naval-focused country.

Yeah, ski jumps take up a lot of space, which means less planes available on deck.

[Slavakino]

Chinese J-20's are garbage and can't win against F-35's, F-22's or Su-57's. Literally just stolen plane designs and still manages to have a heat signature of a school bus

[Adamede]

What the PRC wants is Grosschinesischer Reich Chinesisches Nation.

What they want is security from external threats and prosperity for their social, political and economic system. Everything any nation wants. China is not some sort of evil empire hell bent on conquering the world. That's the americans.

That is an extremely overly simplistic view of the world dude.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Well, maybe we should show a little more force of our own.

[New Visayan Islands]

Chinese J-20's are garbage and can't win against F-35's, F-22's or Su-57's. Literally just stolen plane designs and still manages to have a heat signature of a school bus

I wonder what the reporting name of the J-20 would be...?

What? We already know the putative reporting name for the SU-57 (Felon), so what of the J-20?

BUT I DIGRESS. I suspect things will be going to Hell in a handbasket before this year is over.

[Wallenburg]

Always nice when OP tries to scare the ever loving shit out of everyone over almost nothing.

[Adamede]

Always nice when OP tries to scare the ever loving shit out of everyone over almost nothing.

That seems to be most threads on here.

[The Republic of Fore]

Yeah, I see no reason to believe this will lead to war. How many times have we heard people jump up and down screaming that random event X was totally, 100% for real going to cause ww3? Sorry if after Iran, North Korea, Russia invading Ukraine, and about half a dozen others I'm not buying into the panic.

[Novus America]

I mean it's an attempt to bothsame two Empires essentially and boils down to which Imperial Power you would prefer. Frankly, even though the Iraq-Libya-Afghanistan messes were bad and objectionable (and note we can object to these colonial wars, which PRC'ian do you ever see object to PRC's very own Scramble for Africa?), at least the American and European powers aren't valuing my worth as a citizen by how much I've heil'd the central regime today, on the pain of being reduced to an Untermensch.

tbh I see the next world power coming from Africa. Russia has set itself up as the next global power and the US and China based on how their acting are going to be replaced soon.

Russia with an only a population of 140 million (which is declining) and an Economy smaller than Texas does not have the ability to be a global power.

Africa could in theory, but it would need to unify and still would have a very long way to go to build up the economy, California alone has a bigger real GDP than all of Africa.

[Novus America]

Your ideological dogmatism blinds you to the fact that Peking is creating its own Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere under unquestionable Han racial dominance.

No, I am fully aware that is what they are doing. What I am saying is that this is reasonable and understandable behavior for any nation to do. And that it is not at all the insane fearmongering spread by people who think that the next step is painting the world red. I don't complain when america influences Canada and Mexico either. Of course it does and it bloody well has to in order to secure its own borders. I only take issue with nations that can't limit their sphere of influence to places where they have real security interests and try to actually take over the world.

The US has legitimate security interests in Japan and Taiwan. Why do we not have the right to ally with like minded countries in a region we have territory in which is important to our security?

Again like minded being key here, the elected governments of Japan and Taiwan WANT our help. Taiwan does not want the PRC taking them over.

If a country willingly wishes to ally with the PRC (note how few of its neighbors actually want to) they have a right to. But the PRC does not have the right to say it has exclusive power over all East Asia and take whatever land it wants.

[-Astoria-]

Africa could in theory, but it would need to unify and still would have a very long way to go to build up the economy, California alone has a bigger real GDP than all of Africa.

That's not likely to happen anytime soon; we're too busy fighting amongst ourselves within our own nations over fuck alone knows - it would've been more feasible 60 years ago.

[Adamede]

tbh I see the next world power coming from Africa. Russia has set itself up as the next global power and the US and China based on how their acting are going to be replaced soon.

Russia with an only a population of 140 million (which is declining) and an Economy smaller than Texas does not have the ability to be a global power.

Africa could in theory, but it would need to unify and still would have a very long way to go to build up the economy, California alone has a bigger real GDP than all of Africa.

Africa is likely never going to unify, at best you get a similar situation as Asia where you have multiple expansive and powerful states on the continent.

[Novus America]

Africa could in theory, but it would need to unify and still would have a very long way to go to build up the economy, California alone has a bigger real GDP than all of Africa.

That's not likely to happen anytime soon; we're too busy fighting amongst ourselves within our own nations over fuck alone knows - it would've been more feasible 60 years ago.

I agree, hence the in theory part. Also there is the huge cultural divide between Africa North and South of the Sahara, plus other less obvious but still big divides. Outsiders tend to look at Africa as one monolithic culture and entity which completely overlooks the complexities and diversity of the continent.

[Tolopel]

china why doe

[Adamede]

china why doe

China want's to assert it's dominance over the western Pacific Ocean.

[Tolopel]

china why doe

China want's to assert it's dominance over the western Pacific Ocean.

oh god
like the japanese empire?