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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:22 pm

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La xinga wrote:Yeah. That's fine. Why wouldn't it be?

I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Society have moved past such disgusting practices.

I know, society has moved passed the practice of allowing a person into private property or not.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:23 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Society have moved past such disgusting practices.

I know, society has moved passed the practice of allowing a person into private property or not.

More like we dont think it's acceptable to only service those people who you approve of.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:I know, society has moved passed the practice of allowing a person into private property or not.

More like we dont think it's acceptable to only service those people who you approve of.

And why not?
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:26 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:More like we dont think it's acceptable to only service those people who you approve of.

And why not?

Because everyone has the right to be treated equally, and not be discriminated against based on something they can neither control, nor change.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:27 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:And why not?

Because everyone has the right to be treated equally, and not be discriminated against based on something they can neither control, nor change.

Ahah! Race you cannot control or change, but but being homosexual surely you can!
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:29 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Because everyone has the right to be treated equally, and not be discriminated against based on something they can neither control, nor change.

Ahah! Race you cannot control or change, but but being homosexual surely you can!


Yeah, no. That's not how it works. The idea you can force yourself to change sexual orientations has been thoroughly debunked.

Can orientation shift over time? Sure. But you cant just will yourself to be straight any more than you can will yourself to be another race.

Trust me, I spent the better half of my life trying.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:29 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Because everyone has the right to be treated equally, and not be discriminated against based on something they can neither control, nor change.

Ahah! Race you cannot control or change, but but being homosexual surely you can!

No.
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:31 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:Ahah! Race you cannot control or change, but but being homosexual surely you can!


Yeah, no. That's not how it works. The idea you can force yourself to change sexual orientations has been thoroughly debunked.

Can orientation shift over time? Sure. But you cant just will yourself to be straight any more than you can will yourself to be another race.

Trust me, I spent the better half of my life trying.

The only difference is you can. Just be what you "original orientation was."

Just that's it.
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which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:33 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:
Yeah, no. That's not how it works. The idea you can force yourself to change sexual orientations has been thoroughly debunked.

Can orientation shift over time? Sure. But you cant just will yourself to be straight any more than you can will yourself to be another race.

Trust me, I spent the better half of my life trying.

The only difference is you can. Just be what you "original orientation was."

Just that's it.

My original orientation is, and always has been, homosexual. I have never been attracted to a woman,
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:33 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:The only difference is you can. Just be what you "original orientation was."

Just that's it.

My original orientation is, and always has been, homosexual. I have never been attracted to a woman,

I mean the thing of your birth.
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-My RMB Quotebook!-
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which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:34 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:My original orientation is, and always has been, homosexual. I have never been attracted to a woman,

I mean the thing of your birth.

Yeah. Homosexual. As I just said.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:35 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:I mean the thing of your birth.

Yeah. Homosexual. As I just said.

:meh:

Homosexual is not a gender.
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which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:36 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Yeah. Homosexual. As I just said.

:meh:

Homosexual is not a gender.

What are you going on about? We are talking about sexual orientation, not gender.

I was born male. I identify as male. That has no bearing on who I love.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:36 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Yeah. Homosexual. As I just said.

:meh:

Homosexual is not a gender.

No but is a sexual orientation.

Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:37 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote: :meh:

Homosexual is not a gender.

What are you going on about? We are talking about sexual orientation, not gender.

I was born male. I identify as male. That has no bearing on who I love.

Exactly. That's what we're talking about.
Food Discussion Thread (II)
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-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:38 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
La xinga wrote: :meh:

Homosexual is not a gender.

No but is a sexual orientation.

Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay.


Hey, 12 people in lose fitting robes all sitting in a circle? Sounds suspicious to me.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:38 pm

There are two conversations going on here.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:38 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
La xinga wrote: :meh:

Homosexual is not a gender.

No but is a sexual orientation.

Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay.

The big gay?
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"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:38 pm

La xinga wrote:The only difference is you can. Just be what you "original orientation was."

Just that's it.

La xinga wrote:Homosexual is not a gender.

...what the hell is even going on.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:39 pm

La xinga wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:No but is a sexual orientation.

Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay.

The big gay?

Yes he is in fact, THE Big Gay.


The lord of all gays.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:39 pm

La xinga wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:What are you going on about? We are talking about sexual orientation, not gender.

I was born male. I identify as male. That has no bearing on who I love.

Exactly. That's what we're talking about.


You do realize gender, sex, and sexual orientation are all separate concepts right? I was born male, I identify as male, I love males.

That makes me a homosexual. I cannot change that fact, as you claim.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:39 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
La xinga wrote:The big gay?

Yes he is in fact, THE Big Gay.


The lord of all gays.

If the title is vacant, I'll take it.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:40 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
La xinga wrote:The only difference is you can. Just be what you "original orientation was."

Just that's it.

La xinga wrote:Homosexual is not a gender.

...what the hell is even going on.

Everything.
Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:Exactly. That's what we're talking about.


You do realize gender, sex, and sexual orientation are all separate concepts right? I was born male, I identify as male, I love males.

That makes me a homosexual. I cannot change that fact, as you claim.

Can't we just love all good humans? :eyebrow:
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:41 pm

La xinga wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:...what the hell is even going on.

Everything.

I'll tell you what's going on: you are confusing sexuality with gender.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:41 pm

La xinga wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:
...what the hell is even going on.

Everything.
Jedi Council wrote:
You do realize gender, sex, and sexual orientation are all separate concepts right? I was born male, I identify as male, I love males.

That makes me a homosexual. I cannot change that fact, as you claim.

Can't we just love all good humans? :eyebrow:

Yeah, let's just leave it here and agree you have no argument except confusion.
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