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Postby Crockerland » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:58 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Hating gay people isn't a Christian value, most Christians I know would hate being put under that label.


But try telling homosexuals that. Try, try and try again. Every time you get the accusation of hatred of levelled against you, which I think is projection.

You openly express your hatred gay people so that is probably why.

State of Turelisa wrote:I hope you don't take me for one of 'dem damn weirdo homophobes', because I don't hate homosexuals and accept them as human beings, even though they're wrong, deluded and endangering themselves.


Hating gay people is not a Christian value, but you, personally, hate gay people, which is presumably why people are leveling that accusation against you.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:23 am

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State of Turelisa wrote:
But try telling homosexuals that. Try, try and try again. Every time you get the accusation of hatred of levelled against you, which I think is projection.

You openly express your hatred gay people so that is probably why.

State of Turelisa wrote:I hope you don't take me for one of 'dem damn weirdo homophobes', because I don't hate homosexuals and accept them as human beings, even though they're wrong, deluded and endangering themselves.


Hating gay people is not a Christian value, but you, personally, hate gay people, which is presumably why people are leveling(sic) that accusation against you.


That's a non sequitur.
There are people who hate homosexuals based upon the same judgments that are shared by others who don't hate them.
Because, unlike the perverted haters who are prepared to hurt them emotionally, physically and even kill them, some people who disapprove of homosexuality, religious or not, believe homosexuals are worthy of love and respect as all humans are, and disapprove as strongly about the perversion which is hatred.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:25 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Crockerland wrote:You openly express your hatred gay people so that is probably why.



Hating gay people is not a Christian value, but you, personally, hate gay people, which is presumably why people are leveling(sic) that accusation against you.


That's a non sequitur.
There are people who hate homosexuals based upon the same judgments that are shared by others who don't hate them.
Because, unlike the perverted haters who are prepared to hurt them emotionally, physically and even kill them, some people who disapprove of homosexuality, religious or not, believe homosexuals are worthy of love and respect as all humans are, and disapprove as strongly about with the perversion which is hatred.


Do you think the same standard of being discreet should apply to straight couples too? I gather you disapprove of same sex marriage and adoption and dont think it ought to be allowed?

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:30 am

Turelisa, you are repeatedly refusing to answer or even acknowledge valid criticisms that are being directed at your position. It'd be good if you considered doing something about that.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:32 am

San Lumen wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
That's a non sequitur.
There are people who hate homosexuals based upon the same judgments that are shared by others who don't hate them.
Because, unlike the perverted haters who are prepared to hurt them emotionally, physically and even kill them, some people who disapprove of homosexuality, religious or not, believe homosexuals are worthy of love and respect as all humans are, and disapprove as strongly about with the perversion which is hatred.


Do you think the same standard of being discreet should apply to straight couples too? I gather you disapprove of same sex marriage and adoption and dont think it ought to be allowed?


I disapprove of them, but I'm in a minority, and am not in a position to prevent society from passing laws that enable homosexuals to marry and raise children within homosexual marriages, which are based on societal consensus.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:37 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Do you think the same standard of being discreet should apply to straight couples too? I gather you disapprove of same sex marriage and adoption and dont think it ought to be allowed?


I disapprove of them, but I'm in a minority, and am not in a position to prevent society from passing laws that enable homosexuals to marry and raise children within homosexual marriages, which are based on societal consensus.

Doesn't answer the question.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:39 am

The New California Republic wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
I disapprove of them, but I'm in a minority, and am not in a position to prevent society from passing laws that enable homosexuals to marry and raise children within homosexual marriages, which are based on societal consensus.

Doesn't answer the question.


Who's talking to you? Your disingenuous comments are obvious goading and is a continuation of your behaviour in a previous discussion on the subject.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:41 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Doesn't answer the question.


Who's talking to you?

It's a public forum.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:42 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Doesn't answer the question.


Who's talking to you?

This is a discussion thread, not a private conversation between you and San Lumen, so don't try to play that card.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:46 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Doesn't answer the question.


Who's talking to you? Your disingenuous comments are obvious goading and is a continuation of your behaviour in a previous discussion on the subject.
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Lol, "disingenuous"? The actual fuck rofl. I have asked you serious and on-point questions which you have consistently ignored. :roll:

Fine, go ahead, but blocking me after you repeatedly refuse to answer serious questions isn't a good look...
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Postby State of Turelisa » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:50 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
Who's talking to you?

It's a public forum.


That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:52 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:It's a public forum.


That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and respond to answers given to questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.

There was no interruption. This is a public discussion forum. Anyone can chime in if they have something to add or a question to raise. There was no rudeness, it was just your repeated refusal to answer questions.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:55 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Do you think the same standard of being discreet should apply to straight couples too? I gather you disapprove of same sex marriage and adoption and dont think it ought to be allowed?


I disapprove of them, but I'm in a minority, and am not in a position to prevent society from passing laws that enable homosexuals to marry and raise children within homosexual marriages, which are based on societal consensus.

why do you disapprove?

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Postby Ors Might » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:57 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:It's a public forum.


That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.

Etiquette on an online forum is, for incredibly obvious reasons, different than in irl. Their response to questions not asked of them specifically does nothing to interrupt because it doesn’t prevent any sort of response from you or your momentary discussion partner.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:58 am

San Lumen wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
I disapprove of them, but I'm in a minority, and am not in a position to prevent society from passing laws that enable homosexuals to marry and raise children within homosexual marriages, which are based on societal consensus.

why do you disapprove?

Even though the disapproval doesn't say whether the same standard should apply to straight couples too. The disapproval itself is irrelevant to whether or not the same standard should apply.



Ors Might wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.

Etiquette on an online forum is, for incredibly obvious reasons, different than in irl. Their response to questions not asked of them specifically does nothing to interrupt because it doesn’t prevent any sort of response from you or your momentary discussion partner.

Nailed it in one. The posts of one person don't somehow mask the posts of another, as would be the case in an actual verbal conversation, so trying to say that an additional post somehow disrupts things is just ridiculous.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:04 am

State of Turelisa wrote::idea: :idea:
Crockerland wrote:You openly express your hatred gay people so that is probably why.



Hating gay people is not a Christian value, but you, personally, hate gay people, which is presumably why people are leveling(sic) that accusation against you.


That's a non sequitur.
There are people who hate homosexuals based upon the same judgments that are shared by others who don't hate them.
Because, unlike the perverted haters who are prepared to hurt them emotionally, physically and even kill them, some people who disapprove of homosexuality, religious or not, believe homosexuals are worthy of love and respect as all humans are, and disapprove as strongly about the perversion which is hatred.

Regardless of what this vague group of "some people" may think, you have made it abundantly clear that you, personally, are unwilling to treat gay people with respect.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:07 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:It's a public forum.


That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.

Maybe you should consider treating other people you interact with with some baseline level of common decency and respect if you are going to demand other people not be rude to you.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:34 pm

State of Turelisa wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:It's a public forum.


That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.


That's some of the funniest shit I've ever read.

"Um excuse me, this public conversation we are having on a public forum is private. Thanks."

But seriously, you'll have a hard time convincing people you are not homophobic if you truly use phrases like "they're wrong, deluded and endangering themselves."

Because, I am fine with being wrong, everyones wrong once and a while. But deluded and endangering myself? You'll have to make a pretty damn good argument to convince me of that
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Postby Nuroblav » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:36 am

Jedi Council wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:
That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.


That's some of the funniest shit I've ever read.

"Um excuse me, this public conversation we are having on a public forum is private. Thanks."

But seriously, you'll have a hard time convincing people you are not homophobic if you truly use phrases like "they're wrong, deluded and endangering themselves."

Because, I am fine with being wrong, everyones wrong once and a while. But deluded and endangering myself? You'll have to make a pretty damn good argument to convince me of that

They might wanna take it TG if they actually want it to be private. But yeah, if they're not homophobic it isn't showing up well for them with stuff like that.
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Postby Juristonia » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:44 am

State of Turelisa wrote:That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.

Considering you think gay people are "wrong, deluded and endangering themselves" (while hilariously still thinking you're not expressing hatred), I don't think anyone will put much stock in what you consider poor etiquette.
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Postby State of Turelisa » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:47 am

Juristonia wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude and interrupt a conversation between two interlocutors and answer questions which were not asked of them. I've seen this lack of etiquette before on this forum, and it sets my teeth on edge.

Considering you think gay people are "wrong, deluded and endangering themselves" (while hilariously still thinking you're not expressing hatred), I don't think anyone will put much stock in what you consider poor etiquette.

I
I don't hate homosexuals. In fact, I think San Lumen is a nice person, if his photos are anything to go by. ;)

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:06 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Considering you think gay people are "wrong, deluded and endangering themselves" (while hilariously still thinking you're not expressing hatred), I don't think anyone will put much stock in what you consider poor etiquette.

I
I don't hate homosexuals. In fact, I think San Lumen is a nice person, if his photos are anything to go by. ;)

"I'm not homophobic, I like one person on a forum on the basis of their photos"

Dafuq. :roll:
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:08 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Considering you think gay people are "wrong, deluded and endangering themselves" (while hilariously still thinking you're not expressing hatred), I don't think anyone will put much stock in what you consider poor etiquette.

I
I don't hate homosexuals. In fact, I think San Lumen is a nice person, if his photos are anything to go by. ;)

But you think he is wrong, deluded, and endangering himself?
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Postby Cordel One » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:10 am

State of Turelisa wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Considering you think gay people are "wrong, deluded and endangering themselves" (while hilariously still thinking you're not expressing hatred), I don't think anyone will put much stock in what you consider poor etiquette.

I
I don't hate homosexuals. In fact, I think San Lumen is a nice person, if his photos are anything to go by. ;)

That doesn't really prove anything on your part beyond the fact that you seem to think liking someone's photos on a browsergame forum proves something.

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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:12 am

Cordel One wrote:
State of Turelisa wrote:I
I don't hate homosexuals. In fact, I think San Lumen is a nice person, if his photos are anything to go by. ;)

That doesn't really prove anything on your part beyond the fact that you seem to think liking someone's photos on a browsergame forum proves something.

It's the "But I have a black friend" excuse but somehow even more pathetic.
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