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Postby W erp » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:32 am

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W erp wrote:What about publishing the last name of a man who blogged only under the guise of his first and middle? :?

You mean the thing NYT didn't do? What about it?

Just a joke.

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Postby Slaughter None » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:33 am

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Ifreann wrote:Grand conspiracy to tarnish their reputation? Probably not. Attempt by Tucker Carlson to distract from the sexual harassment in which he is named? Much more plausible.

It's so weird how you're quick to believe those accusations but totally dismiss the idea that the NYT were going to publish his personal information.

Exactly, lol

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Postby Slaughter None » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:34 am

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Ansarre wrote:Let's sum up:
Two instances of people claiming the NYT are going to publish their personal information.
Both instances result in public backlash against the NYT.
NYT don't publish it.

In conclusion: The NYT is full of shitty people who have no regard for the well-being of others, as demonstrated by their history.

Or we can believe there is some grand conspiracy to tarnish the reputation of the NYT!


So you have evidence that they actually were going to publish in both cases then?

They did publish it not thought about it but actually published it.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 am

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So you have evidence that they actually were going to publish in both cases then?

They did publish it not thought about it but actually published it.


Where did they publish Carlson's details?
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:55 am

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So you have evidence that they actually were going to publish in both cases then?

They did publish it not thought about it but actually published it.

Still lying.

Change the thread's title and stop trying to give the facts your shitty, dishonest spin. The evidence doesn't support your unending stream of bullshit, and the more you double down the worse you look. At this point, you owe your fellow posters an apology for going far beyond the point where your behaviour could have been interpreted as benevolent ignorance.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:09 am

Slaughter None wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you have evidence that they actually were going to publish in both cases then?

They did publish it not thought about it but actually published it.

That is false.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:41 am

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Liriena wrote:That is patently impossible. No person can be "non-ideological". A news organization will inevitably be "ideological" by virtue of being the product of specific social, economic and cultural conditions that it cannot escape.

I would have to agree with you on that atleast no news channel nor a person can be completely non-biased but talking about the NYT ofcourse they would deny that they were never going to post his address they have a huge incentive to do so.

what incentive do they have to dox him to begin with? All that does is undermine the public's trust and maybe even get you arrested.
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Postby Adamede » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:02 pm

Yah that is a shitty practice that frankly shouldn't be supported by either side of the political spectrum.

Outer Sparta wrote:So Tucker Carlson should be protected from reality and continually be in his Fox News bubble?

Didn't know that not publishing people's home addresses was the same thing as forming an opinion bubble, or "protecting them from reality".

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:04 pm

Adamede wrote:Yah that is a shitty practice that frankly shouldn't be supported by either side of the political spectrum.

Outer Sparta wrote:So Tucker Carlson should be protected from reality and continually be in his Fox News bubble?

Didn't know that not publishing people's home addresses was the same thing as forming an opinion bubble, or "protecting them from reality".

Good thing they never were going to do it and all evidence point toward Carlson being a lying POS as usual.
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Postby Darkpoint » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:04 pm

That’s not journalism.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:05 pm

Adamede wrote:Yah that is a shitty practice that frankly shouldn't be supported by either side of the political spectrum.

Outer Sparta wrote:So Tucker Carlson should be protected from reality and continually be in his Fox News bubble?

Didn't know that not publishing people's home addresses was the same thing as forming an opinion bubble, or "protecting them from reality".


No one published Tuckers address. The only person who got doxxed was some poor freelance reporter from Maine who Carlson painted a target on.

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:05 pm

Darkpoint wrote:That’s not journalism.

Lying about a major publication threatening to doxx you? Yeah.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:05 pm

Darkpoint wrote:That’s not journalism.

Apparently, it also didnt happen.
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Postby Adamede » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:07 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Adamede wrote:Yah that is a shitty practice that frankly shouldn't be supported by either side of the political spectrum.


Didn't know that not publishing people's home addresses was the same thing as forming an opinion bubble, or "protecting them from reality".


No one published Tuckers address. The only person who got doxxed was some poor freelance reporter from Maine who Carlson painted a target on.

Than that's just a lot of shitty behavior all around.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:09 pm

Adamede wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
No one published Tuckers address. The only person who got doxxed was some poor freelance reporter from Maine who Carlson painted a target on.

Than that's just a lot of shitty behavior all around.


Nah. All the evidence points to Carlson lying about what the NYT was going to do. This isn't a both sides thing. Carlson is at fault.

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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:16 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:I would have to agree with you on that atleast no news channel nor a person can be completely non-biased but talking about the NYT ofcourse they would deny that they were never going to post his address they have a huge incentive to do so.

what incentive do they have to dox him to begin with? All that does is undermine the public's trust and maybe even get you arrested.

While I agree with the first part - NYC had no incentive to dox him - I take issue with some of the second part. There's nothing criminal about publishing his adress. It would be protected speech under the first amendment.
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Postby Adamede » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Adamede wrote:Than that's just a lot of shitty behavior all around.


Nah. All the evidence points to Carlson lying about what the NYT was going to do. This isn't a both sides thing. Carlson is at fault.

Fair enough.

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:31 pm

Gravlen wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:what incentive do they have to dox him to begin with? All that does is undermine the public's trust and maybe even get you arrested.

While I agree with the first part - NYC had no incentive to dox him - I take issue with some of the second part. There's nothing criminal about publishing his adress. It would be protected speech under the first amendment.

Why the fuck would publishing someones address with the intentnto threaten someone be protected? Sounds like incitement if you ask me.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:46 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Gravlen wrote:While I agree with the first part - NYC had no incentive to dox him - I take issue with some of the second part. There's nothing criminal about publishing his adress. It would be protected speech under the first amendment.

Why the fuck would publishing someones address with the intentnto threaten someone be protected? Sounds like incitement if you ask me.


Addresses are generally public record. In the UK you can get a copy of the electoral roll with includes names and addresses with a small payment to a local council.

And proving intent is hard.

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:48 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Why the fuck would publishing someones address with the intentnto threaten someone be protected? Sounds like incitement if you ask me.


Addresses are generally public record. In the UK you can get a copy of the electoral roll with includes names and addresses with a small payment to a local council.

And proving intent is hard.

Fair enough. Still, definitely has the possibility for danger. Of course, lots of celebrities post their addresses, so I guess it's not quite so big.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:49 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Gravlen wrote:While I agree with the first part - NYC had no incentive to dox him - I take issue with some of the second part. There's nothing criminal about publishing his adress. It would be protected speech under the first amendment.

Why the fuck would publishing someones address with the intentnto threaten someone be protected? Sounds like incitement if you ask me.

Threats are criminal. But you have to actually make a threat. Saying "Tucker Carlson wants to buy a building in Bryant Pond village, Maine - the property behind the abandoned Franklin Grange Hall on Route 26 - close to his summer home in Woodstock" is not a threat and should not be criminal.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:51 pm

Gravlen wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Why the fuck would publishing someones address with the intentnto threaten someone be protected? Sounds like incitement if you ask me.

Threats are criminal. But you have to actually make a threat. Saying "Tucker Carlson wants to buy a building in Bryant Pond village, Maine - the property behind the abandoned Franklin Grange Hall on Route 26 - close to his summer home in Woodstock" is not a threat and should not be criminal.

is that what he claimed was posted? That's pretty tame.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:54 pm

Liriena wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:They did publish it not thought about it but actually published it.

Still lying.

Change the thread's title and stop trying to give the facts your shitty, dishonest spin. The evidence doesn't support your unending stream of bullshit, and the more you double down the worse you look. At this point, you owe your fellow posters an apology for going far beyond the point where your behaviour could have been interpreted as benevolent ignorance.



Indeed. I'm not sure how this thread got to 18 pages when it's basically; 'This guy said that a rival media company is going to doxx him, turns out the guy is lying and everything is ok.'
I was suspicious when the OP's only source was a youtube video.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:54 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Threats are criminal. But you have to actually make a threat. Saying "Tucker Carlson wants to buy a building in Bryant Pond village, Maine - the property behind the abandoned Franklin Grange Hall on Route 26 - close to his summer home in Woodstock" is not a threat and should not be criminal.

is that what he claimed was posted? That's pretty tame.

Oh no, it's not what he claimed now. He has given very little detail about what upset him this time. But it is something he got pissed about in the past.

In a letter to the town of Bryant Pond, a town in Oxford County, Carlson had expressed interest in buying the old town garage next to the town’s library and turning it into a studio with room enough for an audience, according to the Sun Journal, which first reported Carlson’s plans.

“I’d be responsible for buying and repairing the building,” he said in the letter, which the Sun Journal quoted. Carlson offered to buy the garage for $30,000, and said Fox “has agreed to install an advanced, broadcast-level studio if we get it.”

But now Carlson told the Sun Journal the publicity has spoiled the plans and that Fox doesn’t want to leave expensive broadcasting equipment in a rural studio whose presence has been widely publicized.

Carlson described himself as "bitter" and "crushed" and called the news report a "total violation of my privacy."

“I can’t have the building now,” Carlson told the Sun Journal. “I’m kind of crushed.”
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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:57 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Liriena wrote:Still lying.

Change the thread's title and stop trying to give the facts your shitty, dishonest spin. The evidence doesn't support your unending stream of bullshit, and the more you double down the worse you look. At this point, you owe your fellow posters an apology for going far beyond the point where your behaviour could have been interpreted as benevolent ignorance.



Indeed. I'm not sure how this thread got to 18 pages when it's basically; 'This guy said that a rival media company is going to doxx him, turns out guy is lying and everything is ok.' I was suspicious when the OP's only source was a youtube video.

Mostly people reading the title and taking it at face value and then people who bothered to dig into it correcting them, with a couple arguments from OP about why Tucker is tooootally trustworthy and the damn LIEberal media is lying for... some reason.
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