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by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:42 pm
by The Rich Port » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:52 pm
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The New York Times is already a poster child for bad journalism, up there with OANN and BuzzFeed, whether or not Carlson’s allegations are true, the NYT has gone off the deep end lately. I’d rather read WaPo articles
by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:00 pm
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Liriena wrote:OP has repeatedly ignored my suggestion that he does so. He's chosen to die on the hill of Carlson's lie.
Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.
They should make mod positions for fact checkers.
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by Necroghastia » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:03 pm
by The Yeetusa » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:04 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:06 pm
Necroghastia wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Why? Lying isn’t against the rules.
Well, it can be in some circumstances.
But I do think the title/OP of some threads with blatant misinfo should be able to be modified. Like, even just changing this to "NYT accused of planning to doxx TC" would be a major step up from the bias inherent in the current title.
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by Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:06 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:07 pm
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Liriena wrote:OP has repeatedly ignored my suggestion that he does so. He's chosen to die on the hill of Carlson's lie.
Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.
They should make mod positions for fact checkers.
by Outer Sparta » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:08 pm
Necroghastia wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Why? Lying isn’t against the rules.
Well, it can be in some circumstances.
But I do think the title/OP of some threads with blatant misinfo should be able to be modified. Like, even just changing this to "NYT accused of planning to doxx TC" would be a major step up from the bias inherent in the current title.
by Necroghastia » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:09 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:09 pm
The Yeetusa wrote:This is another example of news being political. News should be NEWS, not opinions. Stuff like "oh left/right wing is bad because [insert opinions here] is really stupid.
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:10 pm
Necroghastia wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Not really needed. There are enough people here who will gladly call out the lie and post the fact checking sites.
And this thread has demonstrated that a lot of people will take the title at face value and post without having seen any of the numerous debunkings.
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by Outer Sparta » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:10 pm
Necroghastia wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Not really needed. There are enough people here who will gladly call out the lie and post the fact checking sites.
And this thread has demonstrated that a lot of people will take the title at face value and post without having seen any of the numerous debunkings.
by Kowani » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:10 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:The Yeetusa wrote:This is another example of news being political. News should be NEWS, not opinions. Stuff like "oh left/right wing is bad because [insert opinions here] is really stupid.
How on Earth can News NOT be political? It’s inherently political by it’s very nature. It’s foolish to think one can report on a fundamentally political event from an apolitical standpoint. Asking news to be apolitical would be like asking musicians to make “silent music”.
by The Rich Port » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:11 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:11 pm
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by The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:12 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:Necroghastia wrote:Well, it can be in some circumstances.
But I do think the title/OP of some threads with blatant misinfo should be able to be modified. Like, even just changing this to "NYT accused of planning to doxx TC" would be a major step up from the bias inherent in the current title.
It's been crystal clear that Carlson lied about NYT doxing him. Maybe a lock on this thread would suffice since the OP hasn't updated the story with all the facts, let alone the title.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:12 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Alcala-Cordel wrote:Not fact-checkers that punish people, just ones that can put notifications up that something is fake on the post
I wouldn't mind it, but I get the distinct feeling cons, especially Trump supporters, will just say that NationStates is therefore biased because they believe the "fake news" over partisan bullshit blogs and websites.
Better that they merely enforce the rules, they have it hard enough doing that as it is.
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:13 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Outer Sparta wrote:It's been crystal clear that Carlson lied about NYT doxing him. Maybe a lock on this thread would suffice since the OP hasn't updated the story with all the facts, let alone the title.
Well? It’s a dangerous path. How long before mods are asked to change an op because a person doesn’t like naughty words being used?
It’s really our job to challenge the lies and “shout down” the liar. Keep in mind; not all lies are intentional. Also, for many it takes maturity to be able to admit they were wrong.....
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by South Odreria 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:14 pm
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:14 pm
Necroghastia wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Not really needed. There are enough people here who will gladly call out the lie and post the fact checking sites.
And this thread has demonstrated that a lot of people will take the title at face value and post without having seen any of the numerous debunkings.
by Outer Sparta » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:15 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Outer Sparta wrote:It's been crystal clear that Carlson lied about NYT doxing him. Maybe a lock on this thread would suffice since the OP hasn't updated the story with all the facts, let alone the title.
Well? It’s a dangerous path. How long before mods are asked to change an op because a person doesn’t like naughty words being used?
It’s really our job to challenge the lies and “shout down” the liar. Keep in mind; not all lies are intentional. Also, for many it takes maturity to be able to admit they were wrong.....
by Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:15 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:16 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Well? It’s a dangerous path. How long before mods are asked to change an op because a person doesn’t like naughty words being used?
It’s really our job to challenge the lies and “shout down” the liar. Keep in mind; not all lies are intentional. Also, for many it takes maturity to be able to admit they were wrong.....
That is a legitimate concern, but if anyone would not abuse it, it would be Moderation. We aren’t Facebook or some shit.
by Theberstan » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:17 pm
Slaughter None wrote:NYT acronym for the "New York Times" had hired Murray Carpenter, a reporter for the NYT to publish Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson's home address. This is clearly a way to threaten his family and de-base his platform. Here is a video of Tucker Carlson talking about it on his segment:-
https://youtu.be/b7IkxdLpJJg
Despite what you may think about his politics this is clearly a denouncable deed by the NYT. You don't have the right to silence your political opponents. What do you think?
EDIT:NYT has gone back on their decision to publish Tucker Carlson's home address after much backlash and also allege that they were never going to publish it.
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