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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:17 pm

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Not really needed. There are enough people here who will gladly call out the lie and post the fact checking sites.

Look at the number of people in this thread who are ignoring that, though.

Like I said, that’s inevitable. I mean, just look at flat earthers.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:17 pm

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Not really needed. There are enough people here who will gladly call out the lie and post the fact checking sites.

Look at the number of people in this thread who are ignoring that, though.


You really can’t keep people from wanting to be a moron. All you can do is know the details and challenge the falsehoods. People with closed minds and preconceptions are not going to be swayed by edits suggesting the op may not be true.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:19 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Look at the number of people in this thread who are ignoring that, though.

Like I said, that’s inevitable. I mean, just look at flat earthers.


Well? Flat earthers. How many are serious and how many join it as a goof?
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:20 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Like I said, that’s inevitable. I mean, just look at flat earthers.


Well? Flat earthers. How many are serious and how many join it as a goof?

I don’t know, but I know for a fact that presenting evidence and facts to a flat earther is generally fruitless.
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Postby The Yeetusa » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:22 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
The Yeetusa wrote:This is another example of news being political. News should be NEWS, not opinions. Stuff like "oh left/right wing is bad because [insert opinions here] is really stupid.

How on Earth can News NOT be political? It’s inherently political by it’s very nature. It’s foolish to think one can report on a fundamentally political event from an apolitical standpoint. Asking news to be apolitical would be like asking musicians to make “silent music”.


There's Twitter for politics, and that's not entirely what I meant. Let me rephrase.

News should not be biased towards one political ideology, at least in America. Unfortunately, that is how it is, considering the 1st amendment.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:22 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
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Well? Flat earthers. How many are serious and how many join it as a goof?

I don’t know, but I know for a fact that presenting evidence and facts to a flat earther is generally fruitless.


That I don’t know. I have not come across one. I will admit to considering joining as a joke......
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Postby Theberstan » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:22 pm

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BurritoBowl wrote:Tucker Carlson should be threatened and deplatformed

You shouldn't be part of society if you believe that . Everybody should have the most basic right of freedom of speech and expression.

I agree.

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:25 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:How on Earth can News NOT be political? It’s inherently political by it’s very nature. It’s foolish to think one can report on a fundamentally political event from an apolitical standpoint. Asking news to be apolitical would be like asking musicians to make “silent music”.


There's Twitter for politics, and that's not entirely what I meant. Let me rephrase.

News should not be biased towards one political ideology, at least in America. Unfortunately, that is how it is, considering the 1st amendment.

First amendment or not, humans, as flawed beings, will never be free of bias. The same is true for the press. No news can ever be entirely unbiased.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:25 pm

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Slaughter None wrote:NYT acronym for the "New York Times" had hired Murray Carpenter, a reporter for the NYT to publish Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson's home address. This is clearly a way to threaten his family and de-base his platform. Here is a video of Tucker Carlson talking about it on his segment:-
https://youtu.be/b7IkxdLpJJg

Despite what you may think about his politics this is clearly a denouncable deed by the NYT. You don't have the right to silence your political opponents. What do you think?

EDIT:NYT has gone back on their decision to publish Tucker Carlson's home address after much backlash and also allege that they were never going to publish it.

That’s horrible. Hey libbies! How would you like it is a Fox News reporter gave out addresses of people that worked in CNN, NYT, etc. I think you would go absolutely bonkers.

Not a liberal but a leftist, I'd think that it would be a pretty bad thing to do.

That being said, NYT never did or planned to do this.
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Alcala-Cordel wrote:Look at the number of people in this thread who are ignoring that, though.


You really can’t keep people from wanting to be a moron. All you can do is know the details and challenge the falsehoods. People with closed minds and preconceptions are not going to be swayed by edits suggesting the op may not be true.

It might help a little, not everyone's that far gone. Some people just believe everything they read and could benefit from this.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:28 pm

Theberstan wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:NYT acronym for the "New York Times" had hired Murray Carpenter, a reporter for the NYT to publish Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson's home address. This is clearly a way to threaten his family and de-base his platform. Here is a video of Tucker Carlson talking about it on his segment:-
https://youtu.be/b7IkxdLpJJg

Despite what you may think about his politics this is clearly a denouncable deed by the NYT. You don't have the right to silence your political opponents. What do you think?

EDIT:NYT has gone back on their decision to publish Tucker Carlson's home address after much backlash and also allege that they were never going to publish it.

That’s horrible. Hey libbies! How would you like it is a Fox News reporter gave out addresses of people that worked in CNN, NYT, etc. I think you would go absolutely bonkers.

They have done that. Also, not a liberal, and I oppose doxxing in general. Others being hypocrites doesn’t mean you should defend something bad.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:32 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Theberstan wrote:That’s horrible. Hey libbies! How would you like it is a Fox News reporter gave out addresses of people that worked in CNN, NYT, etc. I think you would go absolutely bonkers.

They have done that. Also, not a liberal, and I oppose doxxing in general. Others being hypocrites doesn’t mean you should defend something bad.


They have? Who? In other words. Linky please ;)
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Postby The Yeetusa » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:33 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
The Yeetusa wrote:
There's Twitter for politics, and that's not entirely what I meant. Let me rephrase.

News should not be biased towards one political ideology, at least in America. Unfortunately, that is how it is, considering the 1st amendment.

First amendment or not, humans, as flawed beings, will never be free of bias. The same is true for the press. No news can ever be entirely unbiased.


Wouldn't it be great it it was though? *sigh*
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:34 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:They have done that. Also, not a liberal, and I oppose doxxing in general. Others being hypocrites doesn’t mean you should defend something bad.


They have? Who? In other words. Linky please ;)

Fox has doxxed.
including the reporter Carlson accused, ironically.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:38 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:First amendment or not, humans, as flawed beings, will never be free of bias. The same is true for the press. No news can ever be entirely unbiased.


Wouldn't it be great it it was though? *sigh*

Sure would have been nice if Reagan never repealed the Fairness Doctrine. It wouldn't have solved everything, but it would have helped curb the bias we're seeing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:42 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
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They have? Who? In other words. Linky please ;)

Fox has doxxed.
including the reporter Carlson accused, ironically.


Hmmm. Well? Tucker is a hateful meatsack.

Still; doesn’t make it right.

We really have to take a harsh stance on doxxing and deliver appropriate punishment.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:42 pm

Theberstan wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:NYT acronym for the "New York Times" had hired Murray Carpenter, a reporter for the NYT to publish Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson's home address. This is clearly a way to threaten his family and de-base his platform. Here is a video of Tucker Carlson talking about it on his segment:-
https://youtu.be/b7IkxdLpJJg

Despite what you may think about his politics this is clearly a denouncable deed by the NYT. You don't have the right to silence your political opponents. What do you think?

EDIT:NYT has gone back on their decision to publish Tucker Carlson's home address after much backlash and also allege that they were never going to publish it.

That’s horrible. Hey libbies! How would you like it is a Fox News reporter gave out addresses of people that worked in CNN, NYT, etc. I think you would go absolutely bonkers.

Fox News did give out the private home phone number of a CNN reporter. Tucker Carlson. He had given out the number of their Washington bureau as a joke, back when he worked in CNN. So they put his unlisted home number online until the harassment he and his family received forced him to apologise.

You may also be interested in knowing that Tucker Carlson made up this story about the NYT being about to publish his address. They've denied his claims and there's no evidence.


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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:They have done that. Also, not a liberal, and I oppose doxxing in general. Others being hypocrites doesn’t mean you should defend something bad.


They have? Who? In other words. Linky please ;)

Ifreann wrote:Tucker Carlson knows only too well the potential harms of having his private contact information made public. Which Fox News did in 2003.
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CNN's Tucker Carlson thought he was having a bit of fun when, during a "Crossfire" segment in which he defended telemarketers, he was asked for his home number but recited the number of the Fox News Washington bureau instead. Fox retaliated by posting Carlson's unlisted Virginia number on its Web site.

After his wife was deluged with obscene calls, Carlson says, he went to Fox's Capitol Hill bureau Friday to complain, and was told his number would be taken down if he apologized on the air. Fox spokeswoman Irena Briganti says Carlson was "completely irresponsible" and that the bureau was "inundated" with "vicious phone calls. . . . CNN threw the first punch here. Correcting his mistake was good journalism."

Carlson, who apologized on "Crossfire" but also criticized Fox's form of retaliation, now says: "They're a mean, sick group of people. Don't harass my wife and kids. Even the Mafia doesn't do that."
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Theberstan wrote:That’s horrible. Hey libbies! How would you like it is a Fox News reporter gave out addresses of people that worked in CNN, NYT, etc. I think you would go absolutely bonkers.

Fox News did give out the private home phone number of a CNN reporter. Tucker Carlson. He had given out the number of their Washington bureau as a joke, back when he worked in CNN. So they put his unlisted home number online until the harassment he and his family received forced him to apologise.

You may also be interested in knowing that Tucker Carlson made up this story about the NYT being about to publish his address. They've denied his claims and there's no evidence.


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They have? Who? In other words. Linky please ;)

Ifreann wrote:Tucker Carlson knows only too well the potential harms of having his private contact information made public. Which Fox News did in 2003.


Well? Phone numbers are something you can change. It’s a bother sure. It’s better then your home address being given out.

Carlson is a pig. Still.....he doesn’t deserve to be trolled at home.
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The Black Forrest wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fox News did give out the private home phone number of a CNN reporter. Tucker Carlson. He had given out the number of their Washington bureau as a joke, back when he worked in CNN. So they put his unlisted home number online until the harassment he and his family received forced him to apologise.

You may also be interested in knowing that Tucker Carlson made up this story about the NYT being about to publish his address. They've denied his claims and there's no evidence.





Well? Phone numbers are something you can change. It’s a bother sure. It’s better then your home address being given out.

Carlson is a pig. Still.....he doesn’t deserve to be trolled at home.

One would think Tucker Carlson knows that it isn't right to dox people considering he was on the receiving end of it when he was at CNN. But him lying about the NYT doxing him AND threatening to dox the NYT reporters and editors? Now that's a new low.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:20 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fox News did give out the private home phone number of a CNN reporter. Tucker Carlson. He had given out the number of their Washington bureau as a joke, back when he worked in CNN. So they put his unlisted home number online until the harassment he and his family received forced him to apologise.

You may also be interested in knowing that Tucker Carlson made up this story about the NYT being about to publish his address. They've denied his claims and there's no evidence.





Well? Phone numbers are something you can change. It’s a bother sure. It’s better then your home address being given out.

Carlson is a pig. Still.....he doesn’t deserve to be trolled at home.

Given that he works for Fox now, he's clearly gotten over it.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:56 pm

Theberstan wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:NYT acronym for the "New York Times" had hired Murray Carpenter, a reporter for the NYT to publish Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson's home address. This is clearly a way to threaten his family and de-base his platform. Here is a video of Tucker Carlson talking about it on his segment:-
https://youtu.be/b7IkxdLpJJg

Despite what you may think about his politics this is clearly a denouncable deed by the NYT. You don't have the right to silence your political opponents. What do you think?

EDIT:NYT has gone back on their decision to publish Tucker Carlson's home address after much backlash and also allege that they were never going to publish it.

That’s horrible. Hey libbies! How would you like it is a Fox News reporter gave out addresses of people that worked in CNN, NYT, etc. I think you would go absolutely bonkers.

Somebody jumped right in without reading any further than the opening post.

I hope OP is proud of their role in misinforming his fellow posters.
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The Yeetusa wrote:News should not be biased towards one political ideology

That is patently impossible. No person can be "non-ideological". A news organization will inevitably be "ideological" by virtue of being the product of specific social, economic and cultural conditions that it cannot escape.
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Postby Slaughter None » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:30 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Yeetusa wrote:News should not be biased towards one political ideology

That is patently impossible. No person can be "non-ideological". A news organization will inevitably be "ideological" by virtue of being the product of specific social, economic and cultural conditions that it cannot escape.

I would have to agree with you on that atleast no news channel nor a person can be completely non-biased but talking about the NYT ofcourse they would deny that they were never going to post his address they have a huge incentive to do so.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:02 pm

Slaughter None wrote:NYT acronym for the "New York Times" had hired Murray Carpenter, a reporter for the NYT to publish Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson's home address. This is clearly a way to threaten his family and de-base his platform. Here is a video of Tucker Carlson talking about it on his segment:-
https://youtu.be/b7IkxdLpJJg

Despite what you may think about his politics this is clearly a denouncable deed by the NYT. You don't have the right to silence your political opponents. What do you think?

EDIT:NYT has gone back on their decision to publish Tucker Carlson's home address after much backlash and also allege that they were never going to publish it.


Seriously? The mighty dreaded NYT is coming after Tucker Carlson. This isn't just something TC made up. Here's the proof! Tucker Carlson said it himself?

Of course there must be more evidence, I'm sure it's later in the thread. But what's this? The OP edits the OP to bring us the startling news that NYT deny it! Well that's it then. Anything NYT says is a lie, therefore what Tucker said is true!

Top stuff. Real quality Citizen Journalism here, new poster with an unattractive name. I'll be looking out for more like this! Also I'm be sure to watch more of The Tucker Carlson Show, it's really good isn't it?
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:09 pm

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Liriena wrote:That is patently impossible. No person can be "non-ideological". A news organization will inevitably be "ideological" by virtue of being the product of specific social, economic and cultural conditions that it cannot escape.

I would have to agree with you on that atleast no news channel nor a person can be completely non-biased but talking about the NYT ofcourse they would deny that they were never going to post his address they have a huge incentive to do so.

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Postby Slaughter None » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:26 pm

Kowani wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:I would have to agree with you on that atleast no news channel nor a person can be completely non-biased but talking about the NYT ofcourse they would deny that they were never going to post his address they have a huge incentive to do so.

…No, actually, they have no incentive to do so.

If they say that they actually meant to release his address wouldn't they be blasted further on social media and they could also face this going to court.

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