NYT was going to publish home address of Fox news reporter

[Fartsniffage]

What confuses me is the reporter Tucker went after in his lie. He's not a NYT reporter, he's a freelancer who specialises in science and environment stories. He's the editor of The Republican Journal in Maine.

It makes no sense that he would be writing a story to dox Tucker in the NYT.

He probably didn't look into the reporter before making his accusation.

But you'd have to dig a bit to find this person. He's not in any way well known.

[Kalaron-A]

You'd be wrong with that assumption. My point was that "reputable" news sites have doxxed people (or threatened, as the case may be) before. It's hard for me, personally, to be incredulous at the idea that NYT might have also been willing to dox someone when it's not exactly without precedent from similar news agencies.

And you would believe Tucker Carlson claims?

In my first post, I made it clear that I doubted it. I'll reiterate that: I doubt his claims.
But that said, just because I doubt the prospect of him being truthful doesn't mean I have to be particularly set on NYT being "good" or beyond that as a tactic. I mentioned precedent in this matter since people seemed incredulous about the notion and it didn't seem to have been mentioned before.

[Outer Sparta]

And you would believe Tucker Carlson claims?

In my first post, I made it clear that I doubted it. I'll reiterate that: I doubt his claims.
But that said, just because I doubt the prospect of him being truthful doesn't mean I have to be particularly set on NYT being "good" or beyond that as a tactic. I mentioned precedent in this matter since people seemed incredulous about the notion and it didn't seem to have been mentioned before.

In this particular case, the NYT didn't dox Carlson. You may believe the NYT isn't really good or innocent or that news organizations could have a precedence of doing so, but the NYT never doxed Carlson, nor have planned to dox him.

[Tolopel]

THE PERSON WHO DID THAT DESERVES TO DIE

[Wallenburg]

THE PERSON WHO DID THAT DESERVES TO DIE

This is exactly the hypocrisy we're talking about. Also, reported.

[Fartsniffage]

THE PERSON WHO DID THAT DESERVES TO DIE

Did what?

[Kalaron-A]

In my first post, I made it clear that I doubted it. I'll reiterate that: I doubt his claims.
But that said, just because I doubt the prospect of him being truthful doesn't mean I have to be particularly set on NYT being "good" or beyond that as a tactic. I mentioned precedent in this matter since people seemed incredulous about the notion and it didn't seem to have been mentioned before.

In this particular case, the NYT didn't dox Carlson. You may believe the NYT isn't really good or innocent, but they never doxxed Carlson, nor have planned to dox him.

Just because you say that, ironically, doesn't make it true. They certainly didn't dox him, but can you really say with conclusive proof they had no plan to release his home info in any capacity? I can't, because that's an incredibly hard thing to do without a leak like the DNC had.
I only have precedent and the corcumstances here. I'm doubtful of the circumstances, but the precedent that "Resistance Journalism" can reach that point is hard to dismiss too.

[Gravlen]

I'll remind you that CNN is not the New York Times, though I'm sure you think all news sites look alike.

You'd be wrong with that assumption. My point was that "reputable" news sites have doxxed people (or threatened, as the case may be) before. It's hard for me, personally, to be incredulous at the idea that NYT might have also been willing to dox someone when it's not exactly without precedent from similar news agencies.

Strange, then, that you use a dissimilar case from a completely different news site to vaguely claim some sort of precedent. I mean, you could actually have used Fox News as precedent for a "reputable" news sites doxxing people, since they doxxed Carlson in the past, and thus concluded that the NYT might be willing to do so for no good reason.

[Outer Sparta]

I hate having to be a broken record, but Carlson lied about the NYT doxing him. Maybe the OP needs to change with more relevant information now that the lie by Carlson has been uncovered.

[Liriena]

I hate having to be a broken record, but Carlson lied about the NYT doxing him. Maybe the OP needs to change with more relevant information now that the lie by Carlson has been uncovered.

OP has repeatedly ignored my suggestion that he does so. He's chosen to die on the hill of Carlson's lie.

Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.

[Gravlen]

He probably didn't look into the reporter before making his accusation.

But you'd have to dig a bit to find this person. He's not in any way well known.

Probably looking into Carlson or someone Calson knows, and Carlson decided to send his Twitter mob after him to intimidate.

[The Black Forrest]

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Hi new friend. All caps is not good writing. Also, advocating personal harm or death is against the rules. You might want to change that.

[Outer Sparta]

I hate having to be a broken record, but Carlson lied about the NYT doxing him. Maybe the OP needs to change with more relevant information now that the lie by Carlson has been uncovered.

OP has repeatedly ignored my suggestion that he does so. He's chosen to die on the hill of Carlson's lie.

Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.

The thread still has the same title which doesn't help matters.

[Fahran]

Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.

That's a problem in most forms of media in all honesty. Once the lies get out, it's out there forever. Some people who heard the lie might not ever see the redaction/correction.

[Aureumterra]

Didn’t someone doxx him last year, and there was a protest at his house? Regardless, why is the NYT doxxing people instead of… reporting the news?

[Wallenburg]

Didn’t someone doxx him last year, and there was a protest at his house? Regardless, why is the NYT doxxing people instead of… reporting the news?

NYT didn't doxx Carlson. Carlson just lied and OP repeated that lie.

[Fartsniffage]

Didn’t someone doxx him last year, and there was a protest at his house? Regardless, why is the NYT doxxing people instead of… reporting the news?

It isn't. Tucker lied.

[The Black Forrest]

Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.

That's a problem in most forms of media in all honesty. Once the lies get out, it's out there forever. Some people who heard the lie might not ever see the redaction/correction.

Oh and there are a great many who will never question the lie. Many Trump supporters are good for that.

[Liriena]

Didn’t someone doxx him last year, and there was a protest at his house? Regardless, why is the NYT doxxing people instead of… reporting the news?

For the umpteenth time...

[Fahran]

Oh and there are a great many who will never question the lie. Many Trump supporters are good for that.

I was commenting on the phenomenon more broadly. Trump supporters present one egregious example but there are still people out there who believe the more salacious rumors surrounding Steele dossier to be 100% true. It's not something that's confined to one side of the political spectrum, though, at the moment, Republicans, especially older ones, do seem more susceptible to it given how our institutions have been functioning.

[Kalaron-A]

You'd be wrong with that assumption. My point was that "reputable" news sites have doxxed people (or threatened, as the case may be) before. It's hard for me, personally, to be incredulous at the idea that NYT might have also been willing to dox someone when it's not exactly without precedent from similar news agencies.

Strange, then, that you use a dissimilar case from a completely different news site to vaguely claim some sort of precedent. I mean, you could actually have used Fox News as precedent for a "reputable" news sites doxxing people, since they doxxed Carlson in the past, and thus concluded that the NYT might be willing to do so for no good reason.

I sure could have, but is NYT more similar to Fox, or CNN? I'm actually pretty certain people would have complained about me using a totally disimilar network if I had.
Further, I'm not saying it's a particularly strong reason to think NYT was going to, even, but to show that being incredulous of a major left-center (as defined by MBFC) news network doing this would'nt be in line with previous events.
Like I said, with feeling this time, I doubt his claims but find it hard to dismiss the notion totally. It's as shaky as assuming that people with a greater number of friends who smoke pot are more likely to smoke pot themselves, but it was never meant to be "proof" that they did it so much as a reason to be cautious of both sides rather than the total dismissal that some people have expressed.

You've twice now tried to make it out like I have a right-wing bias here, albeit with passive-agression instead of a direct accusation. Are you certain you aren't looking through similarly lensed glasses?

[Outer Sparta]

Strange, then, that you use a dissimilar case from a completely different news site to vaguely claim some sort of precedent. I mean, you could actually have used Fox News as precedent for a "reputable" news sites doxxing people, since they doxxed Carlson in the past, and thus concluded that the NYT might be willing to do so for no good reason.

I sure could have, but is NYT more similar to Fox, or CNN? I'm actually pretty certain people would have complained about me using a totally disimilar network if I had.
Further, I'm not saying it's a particularly strong reason to think NYT was going to, even, but to show that being incredulous of a major left-center (as defined by MBFC) news network doing this would'nt be in line with previous events.
Like I said, with feeling this time, I doubt his claims but find it hard to dismiss the notion totally. It's as shaky as assuming that people with a greater number of friends who smoke pot are more likely to smoke pot themselves, but it was never meant to be "proof" that they did it so much as a reason to be cautious of both sides rather than the total dismissal that some people have expressed.

You've twice now tried to make it out like I have a right-wing bias here, albeit with passive-agression instead of a direct accusation. Are you certain you aren't looking through similarly lensed glasses?

Considering it's Tucker Carlson making such claims, it's better to dismiss his claims entirely.

[Alcala-Cordel]

I hate having to be a broken record, but Carlson lied about the NYT doxing him. Maybe the OP needs to change with more relevant information now that the lie by Carlson has been uncovered.

OP has repeatedly ignored my suggestion that he does so. He's chosen to die on the hill of Carlson's lie.

Which raises a serious problem with General as a forum: when an OP tells a juicy lie, or falls for somebody else's juicy lie, there really isn't a lot the rest of us can do to correct that and keep other posters from falling for that lie.

They should make mod positions for fact checkers.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh and there are a great many who will never question the lie. Many Trump supporters are good for that.

I was commenting on the phenomenon more broadly. Trump supporters present one egregious example but there are still people out there who believe the more salacious rumors surrounding Steele dossier to be 100% true. It's not something that's confined to one side of the political spectrum, though, at the moment, Republicans, especially older ones, do seem more susceptible to it given how our institutions have been functioning.

No republicans of all ages are in that front. Seen more then a few news “let’s talk to the people” bits. For example, the Russia probe is complete BS. “did you read the transcript?”. No but it’s still BS!!!!

I think the lefties can be educated over the dossier if they ever release it (not sure if they did). Trump types? Facts don’t matter as it’s liberal spin and fake news......

[Farnhamia]

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