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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:43 am

Nakena wrote:It's standard tactic used by US counter-insurgency operations since quite a while.

Now that the US itself is facing a marxist insurgency at home, the tactics and techniques from aboard have arrived at home.

Opposing police brutality is Marxism.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:44 am

Nakena wrote:It's standard tactic used by US counter-insurgency operations since quite a while.

Now that the US itself is facing a marxist insurgency at home, the tactics and techniques from aboard have arrived at home.

Protests against police abuse is now Marxist. Protests interspersed with opportunistic riots is now an insurgency. Good fucking grief.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nakena wrote:It's standard tactic used by US counter-insurgency operations since quite a while.

Now that the US itself is facing a marxist insurgency at home, the tactics and techniques from aboard have arrived at home.

Opposing police brutality is Marxism.


Dude this long stopped about being police brutality. I am not judging things here. Just, as always, telling as they are.

But of course nobody likes being told the truth.

And that goes for both sides.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:48 am

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Opposing police brutality is Marxism.


Dude this long stopped about being police brutality. I am not judging things here. Just, as always, telling as they are.

But of course nobody likes being told the truth.

And that goes for both sides.

We all appreciate that your assessment of the truth involves no exercise of judgement on your part.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:49 am

There are definitely upstarts within the protests that want things to turn badly, but I do not like the way Trump is handling this. We seem to be heading towards an illiberal democracy. We still have elections, but due process rights are being chipped away.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:50 am

You would think that the government basically kidnapping random people off the streets would be something we could all agree is a bad thing. But this is NSG so apparently not.
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Postby The Yeetusa » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:50 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:There are definitely upstarts within the protests that want things to turn badly, but I do not like they way Trump is handling this. We seem to be heading towards an illiberal democracy. We still have elections, but due process rights are being chipped away.

Well guess what? An election is coming up
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:51 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:There are definitely upstarts within the protests that want things to turn badly, but I do not like the way Trump is handling this. We seem to be heading towards an illiberal democracy. We still have elections, but due process rights are being chipped away.

Just another chapter in the black comedy titled Trump Would NEVER Do THAT!!
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:52 am

Andsed wrote:You would think that the government basically kidnapping random people off the streets would be something we could all agree is a bad thing. But this is NSG so apparently not.

If you take right-wing coverage of this into account, it will explain the disagreement.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 am

If it makes you happy, people didn liked when I pointed out that Trump almost got toppled by a color style-revolution in June or that the Pentagon basically defied him. Or when he was resorting to use Berkut style DoJ units on the streets of DC as last reserve. This here is just another continuation of that. And it heralds a new and quite concerning stage of development.

But who I am talking to?

You won't care.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 am

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Opposing police brutality is Marxism.


Dude this long stopped about being police brutality. I am not judging things here. Just, as always, telling as they are.

But of course nobody likes being told the truth.

And that goes for both sides.


So what is it about then? What is the truth you are trying to tell?
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Dude this long stopped about being police brutality. I am not judging things here. Just, as always, telling as they are.

But of course nobody likes being told the truth.

And that goes for both sides.

We all appreciate that your assessment of the truth involves no exercise of judgement on your part.

Maybe he's advertising for QAnon.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:55 am

The Yeetusa wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:There are definitely upstarts within the protests that want things to turn badly, but I do not like they way Trump is handling this. We seem to be heading towards an illiberal democracy. We still have elections, but due process rights are being chipped away.

Well guess what? An election is coming up

And we have to worry if it will be a fair one. Trump is currently floating the idea of not accepting the election results if he looses, so there might not be a peaceful transfer of power, or a transfer of power at all, even if he loses.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nakena wrote:It's standard tactic used by US counter-insurgency operations since quite a while.

Now that the US itself is facing a marxist insurgency at home, the tactics and techniques from aboard have arrived at home.

Opposing police brutality is Marxism.

Creating race and class war is Marxism
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:56 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
The Yeetusa wrote:Well guess what? An election is coming up

And we have to worry if it will be a fair one. Trump is currently floating the idea of not accepting the election results if he looses, so there might not be a peaceful transfer of power, or a transfer of power at all, even if he loses.


Its something that happens quite a lot. A populist president with autocratic tendencies having his gig and government imploding, resorting to increasingly heavy headed measures as around him everything goes south.

Happened so many times in so many countries. This is just the american variant of it.

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:58 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Opposing police brutality is Marxism.

Creating race and class war is Marxism

The police are marxists?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Dude this long stopped about being police brutality. I am not judging things here. Just, as always, telling as they are.

But of course nobody likes being told the truth.

And that goes for both sides.

We all appreciate that your assessment of the truth involves no exercise of judgement on your part.


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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:59 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Creating race and class war is Marxism

The police are marxists?

Always look out for your buddies, be the best you can be despite not being paid much, uphold the rules of the state.... pretty communist at least. Not as much as e.g. the navy seals, but still.
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Postby Stylan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:01 am

It's pretty fucking scary. But it's just what the U.S. has done in every other country, guess it's no surprise when it comes home to roost.

I hate to see how my country is now led by a guy who advertizes food products, minimum wage workers can't afford a home in any state, college debt is through the roof, secret police arrest peaceful protestors, the government ignores a raging pandemic....

These truly are the end of days, aren't they my friends?
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Postby Stylan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:02 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Opposing police brutality is Marxism.

Creating race and class war is Marxism

Race didn't play into Marxist theory, in fact marx was pretty racist lol
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:03 am

Nakena wrote:If it makes you happy, people didn liked when I pointed out that Trump almost got toppled by a color style-revolution in June or that the Pentagon basically defied him. Or when he was resorting to use Berkut style DoJ units on the streets of DC as last reserve. This here is just another continuation of that. And it heralds a new and quite concerning stage of development.

But who I am talking to?

You won't care.

You're right, I won't care about your allegedly neutral, judgement-free reporting about this supposedly Marxist insurgency.
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Postby Stylan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:03 am

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Opposing police brutality is Marxism.


Dude this long stopped about being police brutality. I am not judging things here. Just, as always, telling as they are.

But of course nobody likes being told the truth.

And that goes for both sides.

Thanks for being the supreme arbiter of truth!

Fuck off dude, this is about the larger issue of systemic racism and a government that doesn't care about anyone anymore, and is run by a group of rich corporate assholes who "allegedly" diddle kids.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:05 am

Stylan wrote:It's pretty fucking scary. But it's just what the U.S. has done in every other country, guess it's no surprise when it comes home to roost.

I hate to see how my country is now led by a guy who advertizes food products, minimum wage workers can't afford a home in any state, college debt is through the roof, secret police arrest peaceful protestors, the government ignores a raging pandemic....

These truly are the end of days, aren't they my friends?

Yes, they are. At the very least it's the end of days for America.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:07 am

Geneviev wrote:Yes, they are. At the very least it's the end of days for America.


The forecast is very grim.

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Postby Cop Met » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:10 am

I have good news and bad news for you.

Bad news: you have been brainwashed by the media.

Good news: you don't have to worry about the government turning 'fascist'.

More bad news: the people running around on the streets, tearing down statues, burning down buildings and assaulting people... they're the fascists.

Good news: being disabled and especially being bisexual makes you more safe from the 'woke' mob.

More, more bad news: you don't happen to be 'cisgender', white and male, do you? Cause then you're fucked. Bigotry is at the basis of their movement.

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