Coronavirus Thread V: A Shot in the Arm (READ OP)

[The Black Forrest]

I somehow missed this beauty. Trump rambling about covid testing and how Obama and Biden stopped the testing.

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-bizarre-c ... 29254.html


"Person, woman, man, camera, TV" is starting to make sense now.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Remember kids, in Trump's world, absolutely nothing is his fault. It's always someone else. Werent we supposed to have 60,000 deaths from covid by August? Thanks to Trump's "Reopen everything" movement, we more than doubled that by this point.

[Elevanos]

Remember kids, in Trump's world, absolutely nothing is his fault. It's always someone else. Werent we supposed to have 60,000 deaths from covid by August? Thanks to Trump's "Reopen everything" movement, we more than doubled that by this point.

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Remember kids, in Trump's world, absolutely nothing is his fault. It's always someone else. Werent we supposed to have 60,000 deaths from covid by August? Thanks to Trump's "Reopen everything" movement, we more than doubled that by this point.

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

Locking down all of society instead testing and quarantining the sick and infected probs just spread the impact out to all of 2020 tbh.

[Salandriagado]

Remember kids, in Trump's world, absolutely nothing is his fault. It's always someone else. Werent we supposed to have 60,000 deaths from covid by August? Thanks to Trump's "Reopen everything" movement, we more than doubled that by this point.

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

Official case numbers at that point had no relationship to actual case numbers. They were functionally just a graph of how much testing was happening.

[Elevanos]

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

Official case numbers at that point had no relationship to actual case numbers. They were functionally just a graph of how much testing was happening.

Ironic you shoudl say that, since America has tested tens of millions of people, much higher than the people tested in the nations with the same rate of testing per thousand on this website https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing .

[Tourais]

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

Locking down all of society instead testing and quarantining the sick and infected probs just spread the impact out to all of 2020 tbh.

Would that really make much of a difference if it usually takes a while for results to come in?

As well as people who may be infected who don't want to test because they don't think they have COVID or are asymptomatic?

[San Lumen]

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/89299505 ... -with-heat

Millions in the US could soon face power and water shutoffs as utilities payment moratoriums expire. many are still out of work and with the end of UBI have no ability to pay. Yet another policy that was not thought through in the slightest

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Remember kids, in Trump's world, absolutely nothing is his fault. It's always someone else. Werent we supposed to have 60,000 deaths from covid by August? Thanks to Trump's "Reopen everything" movement, we more than doubled that by this point.

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

That was the initial surge that began before the lockdown. The lockdowns helped to decrease cases but unfortunately the president wants things reopened.

Things are worse now than they even were in April.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Official case numbers at that point had no relationship to actual case numbers. They were functionally just a graph of how much testing was happening.

Ironic you shoudl say that, since America has tested tens of millions of people, much higher than the people tested in the nations with the same rate of testing per thousand on this website https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing .

We have tested more people, but our testing rate is lower because those nations are much smaller than ours.

America hasn't done nearly enough testing. That's why over 10,000 people caught covid in one day in Florida and 216 died.

[Vetalia]

That was the initial surge that began before the lockdown. The lockdowns helped to decrease cases but unfortunately the president wants things reopened.

Things are worse now than they even were in April.

Not at all, not even close. There are more cases but deaths, hospitalizations and strain on the healthcare system is a fraction of what it was in the areas affected back then...if anything we are past the worst of it and are back on the downswing. A simple look at the CDC data will confirm this.

[Elevanos]

Ironic you shoudl say that, since America has tested tens of millions of people, much higher than the people tested in the nations with the same rate of testing per thousand on this website https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing .

We have tested more people, but our testing rate is lower because those nations are much smaller than ours.

America hasn't done nearly enough testing. That's why over 10,000 people caught covid in one day in Florida and 216 died.

If you look at the map I was referring to in the link, you would find America was doing as much testing as Russia, Canada, and Australia. That means the rate of testing is the same, and the cases are higher for us because of tens of millions of people being tested, not a few hundred thousand.

[Post War America]

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/892995058/tidal-wave-of-power-shut-offs-looms-as-nation-grapples-with-heat

Millions in the US could soon face power and water shutoffs as utilities payment moratoriums expire. many are still out of work and with the end of UBI have no ability to pay. Yet another policy that was not thought through in the slightest

Some might say its the result of politicians being more beholden to their corporate backers than to their electorate.

[Elevanos]

Ironic you shoudl say that, since America has tested tens of millions of people, much higher than the people tested in the nations with the same rate of testing per thousand on this website https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing .

That was the initial surge that began before the lockdown. The lockdowns helped to decrease cases but unfortunately the president wants things reopened.

Things are worse now than they even were in April..

Casually ignore that nearly every state sky-rocketed in cases. And when were those sky-rockets? In the middle of lock down. So is all of the initial surge translating to mass outbreaks in May?

[San Lumen]

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/892995058/tidal-wave-of-power-shut-offs-looms-as-nation-grapples-with-heat

Millions in the US could soon face power and water shutoffs as utilities payment moratoriums expire. many are still out of work and with the end of UBI have no ability to pay. Yet another policy that was not thought through in the slightest

Some might say its the result of politicians being more beholden to their corporate backers than to their electorate.

Explain

[-Astoria-]

That was the initial surge that began before the lockdown. The lockdowns helped to decrease cases but unfortunately the president wants things reopened.

Things are worse now than they even were in April..

Casually ignore that nearly every state sky-rocketed in cases. And when were those sky-rockets? In the middle of lock down. So is all of the initial surge translating to mass outbreaks in May?

...the point being?

[Elevanos]

Casually ignore that nearly every state sky-rocketed in cases. And when were those sky-rockets? In the middle of lock down. So is all of the initial surge translating to mass outbreaks in May?

...the point being?

He said that lockdowns decreased cases. In actuality, during the lock down they increased by thousands of times. Not all of the cases were from early surges pre-national shutdown.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

That was the initial surge that began before the lockdown. The lockdowns helped to decrease cases but unfortunately the president wants things reopened.

Things are worse now than they even were in April..

Casually ignore that nearly every state sky-rocketed in cases. And when were those sky-rockets? In the middle of lock down. So is all of the initial surge translating to mass outbreaks in May?

Casually ignoring the number of people who refused to abide by the lockdown because "we gotta reopen," like the protesters who stormed the capitol building in my state.

Seriously the facts are just not on your side. This virus can be kept down with social distancing, but thanks to Trump and his bullshit, millions of Americans helped this thing spread far and wide. Thats why thousands of people are sick in Texas and Florida right now.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

...the point being?

He said that lockdowns decreased cases. In actuality, during the lock down they increased by thousands of times. Not all of the cases were from early surges pre-national shutdown.

Why don't we compare the states that locked down to states that reopened quick like Texas. Chances are you'll see the relation between locking down and not being a giant graveyard.

[Genivaria]

Remember kids, in Trump's world, absolutely nothing is his fault. It's always someone else. Werent we supposed to have 60,000 deaths from covid by August? Thanks to Trump's "Reopen everything" movement, we more than doubled that by this point.

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

What state is that?

[Genivaria]

He said that lockdowns decreased cases. In actuality, during the lock down they increased by thousands of times. Not all of the cases were from early surges pre-national shutdown.

Why don't we compare the states that locked down to states that reopened quick like Texas. Chances are you'll see the relation between locking down and not being a giant graveyard.

*cries in Texan*
If that's a joke it's a dark one.

[Elevanos]

Casually ignore that nearly every state sky-rocketed in cases. And when were those sky-rockets? In the middle of lock down. So is all of the initial surge translating to mass outbreaks in May?

Casually ignoring the number of people who refused to abide by the lockdown because "we gotta reopen," like the protesters who stormed the capitol building in my state.

Seriously the facts are just not on your side. This virus can be kept down with social distancing, but thanks to Trump and his bullshit, millions of Americans helped this thing spread far and wide. Thats why thousands of people are sick in Texas and Florida right now.

Do the BLM protests, much larger in size and not criticized by the media criticizing the lockdown protesters, have anything to do with the explosion of cases also? And yeah, the protests are parts of why there are many cases now, but not ALL of them. But surely you must acknowledge that being locked down with others have caused people to get it from going to a store or something where someone got COVID, then extended to everybody else in the house or apartment complex. btw im going out for dinner so if i dont respond thats why

[Elevanos]

He said that lockdowns decreased cases. In actuality, during the lock down they increased by thousands of times. Not all of the cases were from early surges pre-national shutdown.

Why don't we compare the states that locked down to states that reopened quick like Texas. Chances are you'll see the relation between locking down and not being a giant graveyard.

So what states are you saying that were shut down?

[Elevanos]

Didn't seem like it was going too well under lock down either. In my state cases nearly tripled in the days schools closed in the more populated regions of the state.

What state is that?

Wisconsin. The regions being Milwaukee and Madison areas. I have found I am not very good with discretion.

[Bombadil]

So advisors to the UK government are saying those who've contracted the virus and recovered should be exempt from any quarantine rules in order to allow the economy to open up. It'd be an ok idea if we didn't live in a world where hordes of people would rush out to get infected so they can gain exemption.

Basically it's punishing people for being responsible.