Coronavirus Thread V: A Shot in the Arm (READ OP)

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Sixteen days until the one year anniversary of the stay-at-home measures being first announced in my county...

What is interesting is the stay at home orders show how many people are truly pathetic.

I build a deck on my front yard. Somebody turned it into the city. The inspectors came out and said the work was great; however.....

They also said the complaints have sky rocketed. His workload has sextupled and most of it is BS.

I build a deck on my front yard. Somebody turned it into the city.
What does that mean? How turned yard into the city?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

What is interesting is the stay at home orders show how many people are truly pathetic.

I build a deck on my front yard. Somebody turned it into the city. The inspectors came out and said the work was great; however.....

They also said the complaints have sky rocketed. His workload has sextupled and most of it is BS.

I build a deck on my front yard. Somebody turned it into the city.
What does that mean? How turned yard into the city?

He means somebody reported this activity to the authorities.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

I build a deck on my front yard. Somebody turned it into the city.
What does that mean? How turned yard into the city?

He means somebody reported this activity to the authorities.

Puzzled me for a while too. "Though it was such a massive deal it's a whole city" but that still makes some sense.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

I build a deck on my front yard. Somebody turned it into the city.
What does that mean? How turned yard into the city?

He means somebody reported this activity to the authorities.

Oh~~~oh I get it.

[CoraSpia]

Seriously all, get over all this moping and pandemic-by-press release bullshit. The fact is, COVID is basically over in terms of posing a threat to its most vulnerable populations...whether via vaccine, treatment or just plaiin herd immunity hospitalizations are falling at an accelerating pace worldwide. Cases mean nothing if nobody is getting seriously ill or hospitalized.

This isn't the Black Death. We could have literally done NOTHING about it and survived as a species just like every other pandemic disease in human history.

JFC there are NSG posters on here that lost their family members, their friends, and their relatives to Covid. Your cold-hearted post makes me weep for humanity.

And there are nsg posters who have lost friends and family members to foreign wars, but the same few people still beat the drum for another one regularly. The truth is that someone being around who's 'lost someone' to a certain political issue doesn't make it any less of a political issue. It just means that they probably shouldn't read discussion on it if it upsets them so much.

[Picairn]

And there are nsg posters who have lost friends and family members to foreign wars, but the same few people still beat the drum for another one regularly. The truth is that someone being around who's 'lost someone' to a certain political issue doesn't make it any less of a political issue. It just means that they probably shouldn't read discussion on it if it upsets them so much.

Yeah I'm not going to take advice from a fellow who was fine with old people dying for the economy. Besides, what I addressed was not on a political aspect, but on a moral aspect. Vetalia was fine with massive Covid deaths (from doing nothing) so long as humanity continues to survive, which comes off as morally bankrupt if you think about it.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I was starting to get hopeful too. Should have learned from my past mistakes.

Don't ever get your hopes up for anything, no matter how promising it seems.

Seriously all, get over all this moping and pandemic-by-press release bullshit. The fact is, COVID is basically over in terms of posing a threat to its most vulnerable populations...whether via vaccine, treatment or just plaiin herd immunity hospitalizations are falling at an accelerating pace worldwide. Cases mean nothing if nobody is getting seriously ill or hospitalized.

This isn't the Black Death. We could have literally done NOTHING about it and survived as a species just like every other pandemic disease in human history.

I'm sure that means something for the 500,000 Americans who died, right?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

"Nose raped"...come on, get over yourself Rojava, unless that person was actually symptomatic and in your presence for an extended period of time your chances of getting COVID are pretty much zero ...

In the context it seems pretty clear Rojava is talking about having a swab shoved up his nose.

Maybe if you hadn't misread it as "infecting other people with covid is rape" you wouldn't have got angry and got red ink on you? Rojava often uses coarse phrases, so your own safety might be best served by putting the fellow on Ignore.

Yeah nose raped meant I got tested for covid. It wasn't fun, it was very uncomfortable and considering that tests aren't 100% accurate I'm still concerned, and a close friend of mine whose sister has a kidney disease and is very vulnerable to covid almost certainly has the disease since he hung out with patient 0 for 5 hours in his room and at one point hugged them while they cried about their dad dying.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I was starting to get hopeful too. Should have learned from my past mistakes.

Don't ever get your hopes up for anything, no matter how promising it seems.

Seriously all, get over all this moping and pandemic-by-press release bullshit. The fact is, COVID is basically over in terms of posing a threat to its most vulnerable populations...whether via vaccine, treatment or just plaiin herd immunity hospitalizations are falling at an accelerating pace worldwide. Cases mean nothing if nobody is getting seriously ill or hospitalized.

This isn't the Black Death. We could have literally done NOTHING about it and survived as a species just like every other pandemic disease in human history.

This is not at all true and signals an ignorance of the ever changing strains we keep finding and the very real concerns doctors and virologists have that they can potentially change enough to largely negate vaccine effectiveness and start the whole thing over again. Even if things continue at the current pace we likely won't "be back to normal" until 2022.

[Ethel mermania]

Mrs mermania's arm is sore. So far no other effects 18 hours later. (2nd shot)

[Ifreann]

Seriously all, get over all this moping and pandemic-by-press release bullshit. The fact is, COVID is basically over in terms of posing a threat to its most vulnerable populations...whether via vaccine, treatment or just plaiin herd immunity hospitalizations are falling at an accelerating pace worldwide. Cases mean nothing if nobody is getting seriously ill or hospitalized.

This isn't the Black Death. We could have literally done NOTHING about it and survived as a species just like every other pandemic disease in human history.

This is not at all true and signals an ignorance of the ever changing strains we keep finding and the very real concerns doctors and virologists have that they can potentially change enough to largely negate vaccine effectiveness and start the whole thing over again. Even if things continue at the current pace we likely won't "be back to normal" until 2022.

If it takes years for poor countries to be vaccinated then we're definitely going to end up with vaccine resistant strains and we'll never get out of this pandemic.

[Fartsniffage]

Brazilian variant up to twice as transmissible and can re-infect people with basic Covid antibodies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56252779

Fun...

[Ethel mermania]

This is not at all true and signals an ignorance of the ever changing strains we keep finding and the very real concerns doctors and virologists have that they can potentially change enough to largely negate vaccine effectiveness and start the whole thing over again. Even if things continue at the current pace we likely won't "be back to normal" until 2022.

If it takes years for poor countries to be vaccinated then we're definitely going to end up with vaccine resistant strains and we'll never get out of this pandemic.

Or might be the other way around the virus doesn't need to mutate to spread. Now with the vaccinated population it does.

Virii are funny things that way, humans always think we know what they are going to do, we don't.

[Washington Resistance Army]

This is not at all true and signals an ignorance of the ever changing strains we keep finding and the very real concerns doctors and virologists have that they can potentially change enough to largely negate vaccine effectiveness and start the whole thing over again. Even if things continue at the current pace we likely won't "be back to normal" until 2022.

If it takes years for poor countries to be vaccinated then we're definitely going to end up with vaccine resistant strains and we'll never get out of this pandemic.

At this rate I expect COVID to become a yearly thing like the flu, because we're just that unlucky as a species.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

If it takes years for poor countries to be vaccinated then we're definitely going to end up with vaccine resistant strains and we'll never get out of this pandemic.

At this rate I expect COVID to become a yearly thing like the flu, because we're just that unlucky as a species.

But doesn’t this also lend to a possible likelihood of it eventually becoming less deadly over time similar to other coronaviruses?

[Shanghai industrial complex]

At this rate I expect COVID to become a yearly thing like the flu, because we're just that unlucky as a species.

But doesn’t this also lend to a possible likelihood of it eventually becoming less deadly over time similar to other coronaviruses?

The concealment, drug resistance,infectivity and lethality of the newly discovered viruses are increasing in South Africa and the UK.The mortality rate of COVID is very low, and there is no reason to be lower.There is reason to suspect that there have been many more frightening variants, but they have not been found.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Over the last 10 months, we have analyzed over five thousand SARS-CoV-2 genomes isolated from Indian patients of COVID-19 to build a phylogeny with 6888 mutation events (Singh et al. 2020).
Errrr.....Just 5000 samples...can find 6888 mutation events?!

[Ifreann]

At this rate I expect COVID to become a yearly thing like the flu, because we're just that unlucky as a species.

But doesn’t this also lend to a possible likelihood of it eventually becoming less deadly over time similar to other coronaviruses?

There's evolutionary pressure for a virus to not kill its hosts, because dead people are no use as hosts and don't spread the virus to new hosts. But that's just pressure, not an absolute guarantee. And covid 19 has killed about 2.5 million people as is. A new strain could be less deadly and still add another million to that number.

[Salandriagado]

Well? Excluding the ex-president supporters; diid anybody think it would be over this year?

It already is over in the developing world where they don't have the luxury of WFH, Instacart and Doordash.

The developing world is exactly where it isn't over, and isn't going to be over any time soon.

[Salandriagado]

I wasn’t. I expect covid to morph into the flu shot for the year.

If a Danish study that is still in pre-peer review status is correct in its assumptions regarding the so-called flu pandemic of 1889-1890 this will become a new cold virus like its MRCA over time.

Let's all take a breath and remind ourselves that no matter what ultimately happens this isn't exactly the Black Death 2.0, though.

Minor technicality: the coronavirus that potentially caused the 1889-90 pandemic (OC43) is not an ancestor of SARS-CoV-2, let alone the most recent common ancestor (the most recent common ancestor of extant SARS-CoV-2 strains is variant 19A, from late 2019). The most recent common ancestor of OC43 and SARS-CoV-2 is old. SARS-CoV-2 is in subgenus sarbecovirus (B lineage), while OC43 is an embecovirus (A lineage), so the MRCA is likely pretty close to the age of the overall betacoronavirus MRCA, which seems to be some thousands of years ago.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It already is over in the developing world where they don't have the luxury of WFH, Instacart and Doordash.

The developing world is exactly where it isn't over, and isn't going to be over any time soon.

Reality can be however you want it to be in the world of your imagination.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... on-vaccine

Merck to help make Johnson & Johnson vaccine

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Good news: Malaysia has officially authorized the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Bad news: Malaysia has officially authorized the Sinovac vaccine.

Even the Philippines is allowing people to choose which brand of vaccine to be inoculated with. Even if West Malaysia succumbs, I hope the Sarawak state government is able to arrive at a separate decision and either refuse Sinovac and CanSino or let the people choose. #MyBodyMyChoice

Still no word from the government on J&J. I hope we don't pass up an amazing opportunity.

[Kowani]

Macron on AstraZeneca and Oxford vaccines “Today everything suggests that it is almost ineffective for those over 65, and some say over 60"

why the fuck

And now France is changing direction, allowing people under 75 with existing health problems to get the AstraZeneca vaccine

[Kowani]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott lifts mask mandate, moves to open Texas "100%"