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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:49 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Moderna says it’s preparing for its vaccine global launch.

Moderna is prepping for the global launch of its potential coronavirus vaccine, already taking in $1.1 billion in deposits from governments awaiting the potentially lifesaving drug, the biotech firm said Thursday in its third-quarter earnings report.

The Cambridge, Massachusetts-based company said it was in ongoing talks with the World Health Organization-backed COVAX initiative on a tiered pricing proposal for its potential vaccine, which it's tentatively calling mRNA-1273. It already has supply agreements in North America, the Middle East and in other regions of the world.

Fantastic. I had a suspicion they would likely get it first.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:50 pm



Be cautiously optimistic.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:50 pm

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Probably not. One would hope people would follow rules to inhibit the spread of a deadly disease but US citizens don't exactly have a good track record there so... yeah.

I dont see how its enforceable though.

You can only really police public events. We're not the PRC, which is a good thing.

That being said, lots of people rejecting public health measures is a sign of a decadent, narcissistic society, at least in my opinion.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:51 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I dont see how its enforceable though.

You can only really police public events. We're not the PRC, which is a good thing.

That being said, lots of people rejecting public health measures is a sign of decadent, narcissistic society, at least in my opinion.


It’s ignorance mixed with temerity. A bad combination.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I dont see how its enforceable though.

You can only really police public events. We're not the PRC, which is a good thing.

That being said, lots of people rejecting public health measures is a sign of decadent, narcissistic society, at least in my opinion.

I agree that a good thing we arent the PRC.

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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:56 pm

Although, now that I think about it, there have been people popped for organizing large house parties and things along those lines.

You might see some really egregious offenders get reported by their neighbors.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:59 pm

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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:You can only really police public events. We're not the PRC, which is a good thing.

That being said, lots of people rejecting public health measures is a sign of decadent, narcissistic society, at least in my opinion.

I agree that a good thing we arent the PRC.


Yeah, freedom comes with some downsides but it's still worth it. It'd just be nice if people knew when to deny instant gratification for long term benefit.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:59 pm



Holy shit is that a sensible policy decision from the government?!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:00 pm

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Holy shit is that a sensible policy decision from the government?!


Incredible ain’t it? Don’t hold your breath until it happens, however.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:00 pm



Who would know it would be Trump to unleash the Mark upon the world. :p

Anyway, I wholeheartedly support this.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:01 pm

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Who would know it would be Trump to unleash the Mark upon the world. :p

Anyway, I wholeheartedly support this.


Alby, like, staph. :p I kid.

Anyway, I hope it happens but I’m waiting to see if they actually do it.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:02 pm


That's good. I would like to see them talk more about how the vaccine will be distributed. It seems that the current approach is to devolve planning and responsibility to state governments.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:02 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Holy shit is that a sensible policy decision from the government?!


Incredible ain’t it? Don’t hold your breath until it happens, however.


Exactly; Have to verify the extra fine print.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:03 pm

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That's good. I would like to see them talk more about how the vaccine will be distributed. It seems that the current approach is to devolve planning and responsibility to state governments.


I can’t say. Anyone knows how the distribution with the polio vaccine happened? My in-laws say that’s probably the best example to follow in how to do this with a CoVID19 vaccine in the US. But I don’t know.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:06 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Incredible ain’t it? Don’t hold your breath until it happens, however.


Exactly; Have to verify the extra fine print.


Yep. Right now it’s just talk. I’ll believe it when there’s action.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:16 pm

And finally (and because of the source take it cautiously), Moderna says they’ll most likely be looking at vaccine candidate data now in November.
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Postby Post War America » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-california-gavin-newsom-new-rules-gatherings-thanksgiving-1541402

Governor Newsom in California announced rules for Thansgiving gatherings.

All gatherings must include no more than three households, including hosts and guests, and must be held outdoors, lasting for two hours of less.

The new rules state those at a gathering "may remove their face coverings briefly to eat or drink as long as they stay at least 6 feet away from everyone outside their own household, and put their face covering back on as soon as they are done with the activity."

and no singing or chanting.

id love to know how he plans on enforcing them for private gatherings. Are all people in the state going to monitored?


I mean, they probably know its an extreme plan, and unenforceable. In all likelihood the hope is that most citizens will follow at least enough of the rules to prevent too large a spike on account of their civic virtue. That being said I can't really trust the civic virtue of American citizens anymore.

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San Lumen wrote:I agree that a good thing we arent the PRC.


Yeah, freedom comes with some downsides but it's still worth it. It'd just be nice if people knew when to deny instant gratification for long term benefit.


Civic virtue goes a long way to maintaining a free society. It is definitely something that must aggressively be fostered in the future, because repeats of the antimask protest spree are going to be disastrous.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:29 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:And finally (and because of the source take it cautiously), Moderna says they’ll most likely be looking at vaccine candidate data now in November.


The Hill reported it too.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... nch-of-its

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:43 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-california-gavin-newsom-new-rules-gatherings-thanksgiving-1541402

Governor Newsom in California announced rules for Thansgiving gatherings.

All gatherings must include no more than three households, including hosts and guests, and must be held outdoors, lasting for two hours of less.

The new rules state those at a gathering "may remove their face coverings briefly to eat or drink as long as they stay at least 6 feet away from everyone outside their own household, and put their face covering back on as soon as they are done with the activity."

and no singing or chanting.

id love to know how he plans on enforcing them for private gatherings. Are all people in the state going to monitored?


I mean, they probably know its an extreme plan, and unenforceable. In all likelihood the hope is that most citizens will follow at least enough of the rules to prevent too large a spike on account of their civic virtue. That being said I can't really trust the civic virtue of American citizens anymore.

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Yeah, freedom comes with some downsides but it's still worth it. It'd just be nice if people knew when to deny instant gratification for long term benefit.


Civic virtue goes a long way to maintaining a free society. It is definitely something that must aggressively be fostered in the future, because repeats of the antimask protest spree are going to be disastrous.


The US (I’m sure other countries do too) sadly has far too many people who think they know better than a scientist when it comes to these things. These people are incredibly ignorant and suffer from temerity. Until they fuck up and then whine about it.

Honestly, CoVID19 parties? Fucking idiots.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:43 pm

I hear that in almost all cases, everywhere Trump holds a rally the pandemic spreads up to twice as fast as in other counties in the same state in a four week period.

We'll never know how many deaths his little ego-stroking exercises are responsible for.

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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:47 pm

So Apparently Michael Bay decided it was a good idea to create a dystopian coronavirus movie

The first trailer for dystopian thriller "Songbird," produced by Michael Bay and directed by Adam Mason, was released Thursday to much criticism.

Bay's film "Songbird" takes place in 2024, where COVID-19 has mutated to COVID-23 and the world is in its fourth year of lockdown. The trailer shows images of notable places in the U.S., including the Santa Monica Pier nearly deserted, now mostly occupied by soldiers and armored vehicles ready to shoot civilians who violate lockdown orders. The U.S. death toll in the movie's setting has reached over 8 million for the year alone, while the worldwide coronavirus death toll is now over 110 million.

The trailer was deemed "tone deaf" by many on Twitter who thought it was bad timing to make a movie about a deadly pandemic when we're still in the middle of a current pandemic. One American dies from COVID-19 every 107 seconds, according to Johns Hopkins data.

"Making a 'dystopian horror movie' about a horror that is real and happening RIGHT NOW is so tone deaf. And so not what people need. So many people have lost jobs, livelihoods and loved ones due to COVID, and everyone’s life has been severely effected. Bad, bad, bad move," tweeted @scallywap.

Others called Bay "completely out of touch" and insensitive as not only does it play into people's fears about the pandemic, but it appears as though he's profiting off of it.

"We are still in this pandemic. That is still killing hundreds of people daily. Ppl are jobless and homeless. In real life. And ppl are being shot in the streets. Making a film to profit off something that is causing suffering all over the world right now is actually offensive," tweeted @moonchiile.

Others noted that people are still dying from the virus, adding that the novel coronavirus "isn't some sort of sci-fi illness."

"To make a movie about it, especially this year is extremely disrespectful," wrote @ambsomething.

The U.S. set a record this week for new coronavirus cases over a seven-day period with more than 500,000 infections. An American is testing positive every 1.2 seconds and daily hospitalizations have been rising steadily for more than a month, from 28,608 on Sept. 20 to more than 44,000 on Tuesday.

"There's no way to sugarcoat it: We are facing an urgent crisis, and there is an imminent risk to you, your family members, your friends, your neighbors and the people you care about," said Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers, whose state is seeing one of the nation's worst outbreaks.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:48 pm

Kannap wrote:So Apparently Michael Bay decided it was a good idea to create a dystopian coronavirus movie

The first trailer for dystopian thriller "Songbird," produced by Michael Bay and directed by Adam Mason, was released Thursday to much criticism.

Bay's film "Songbird" takes place in 2024, where COVID-19 has mutated to COVID-23 and the world is in its fourth year of lockdown. The trailer shows images of notable places in the U.S., including the Santa Monica Pier nearly deserted, now mostly occupied by soldiers and armored vehicles ready to shoot civilians who violate lockdown orders. The U.S. death toll in the movie's setting has reached over 8 million for the year alone, while the worldwide coronavirus death toll is now over 110 million.

The trailer was deemed "tone deaf" by many on Twitter who thought it was bad timing to make a movie about a deadly pandemic when we're still in the middle of a current pandemic. One American dies from COVID-19 every 107 seconds, according to Johns Hopkins data.

"Making a 'dystopian horror movie' about a horror that is real and happening RIGHT NOW is so tone deaf. And so not what people need. So many people have lost jobs, livelihoods and loved ones due to COVID, and everyone’s life has been severely effected. Bad, bad, bad move," tweeted @scallywap.

Others called Bay "completely out of touch" and insensitive as not only does it play into people's fears about the pandemic, but it appears as though he's profiting off of it.

"We are still in this pandemic. That is still killing hundreds of people daily. Ppl are jobless and homeless. In real life. And ppl are being shot in the streets. Making a film to profit off something that is causing suffering all over the world right now is actually offensive," tweeted @moonchiile.

Others noted that people are still dying from the virus, adding that the novel coronavirus "isn't some sort of sci-fi illness."

"To make a movie about it, especially this year is extremely disrespectful," wrote @ambsomething.

The U.S. set a record this week for new coronavirus cases over a seven-day period with more than 500,000 infections. An American is testing positive every 1.2 seconds and daily hospitalizations have been rising steadily for more than a month, from 28,608 on Sept. 20 to more than 44,000 on Tuesday.

"There's no way to sugarcoat it: We are facing an urgent crisis, and there is an imminent risk to you, your family members, your friends, your neighbors and the people you care about," said Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers, whose state is seeing one of the nation's worst outbreaks.


Should I expect that the main symptom of CoVID19 is the patient exploding?
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:53 pm

I wondered what all those lens flares I was seeing were.

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