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Postby Tourais » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Over 6,600 COVID cases have been linked to U.S. colleges.

UT Austin has had more cases than any other college with 449. Good luck to all my fellow Longhorns that have to go there because of their one hybrid class.

Good thing my fall semester classes are all online...
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Australian rePublic wrote:Some anti-maskers globally are equating the face mask to the burqa, stating that just as the burqa takes away women's rights, mandatory face masks take away everyone else's rights.

**sigh**

WEAR A DAMNED MASK!

It's pretty easy to equate facemasks to the burqa from the other side as well. I believe everyone should have the right to choose whether they wear either, for example.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:36 pm

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Did China have a transparent government with good human rights when the SARS outbreak occurred? I think the political situation was better in some ways, but it was still the CCP and Westerners were still harping on them as if nothing had changed since Tiananmen Sq.

If you maintain that SARS outbreak was contained because the Chinese government was better back then, it means the West needs to rethink the way they talk about China.

If you maintain that the West has been right to criticize China so harshly all along, then you must also acknowledge that the difference between SARS and COVID is in the virus itself.


There was far far less travel back in SARS days, the one place that received infections was Vancouver due to the travel between HK.. but not so much out of China. Not the same for COVID, especially given it was around CNY. Between discovering, admitting and locking down Wuhan an estimated 5M had left the city.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:46 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Apparently the NI executive is gona make Masks mandatory in shops come the 20th if people dont step up their game. Should have been fucking mandatory already, if i can wear a mask for my shifts you can wear a mask for a few minutes in a fucking shop.

Speaking of which im the only member of staff in my shops that wears a mask consistently. At least out of everyone ive worked with since being back, occasionally they were wear a plastic face screen when going out onto the shop floor, but even sometimes they dont do that either.

I wish New South Wales would make face masks mandatory already , but unfortunately, that would require a compitant government. I purchased a reusable face mask from eBay, but unfortunately, it's lost in transit. Till it arrives, I'm stuck with single use

Is it really that hard to pass that kind of policy? West Java was pretty quick to make face mask mandatory and threatened a pretty lofty fine for violation. But the problem is in the enforcement, because last week I drove in front Gedung Sate (the governor's office), and directly across the street, is a crowded street market of bad sanitation packed with thousands of people who use mask but opened, so the mask just dangles on their chin. The Satpol PP police force, which is basically local mafia who were then employed by the city administration to maintain order, don't do anything either.
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Postby Tourais » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:01 pm

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Australian rePublic wrote:Some anti-maskers globally are equating the face mask to the burqa, stating that just as the burqa takes away women's rights, mandatory face masks take away everyone else's rights.

**sigh**

WEAR A DAMNED MASK!

It's pretty easy to equate facemasks to the burqa from the other side as well. I believe everyone should have the right to choose whether they wear either, for example.

Having to wear a mask does not take away a person's rights. It helps combat against the spread of this virus. It should remain mandated at this time.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:22 pm

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CoraSpia wrote:It's pretty easy to equate facemasks to the burqa from the other side as well. I believe everyone should have the right to choose whether they wear either, for example.

Having to wear a mask does not take away a person's rights. It helps combat against the spread of this virus. It should remain mandated at this time.

I can't wear a mask. Should I just not leave the house?
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Postby Tourais » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:29 pm

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Tourais wrote:Having to wear a mask does not take away a person's rights. It helps combat against the spread of this virus. It should remain mandated at this time.

I can't wear a mask. Should I just not leave the house?

Have you been leaving the house before? When you go out to public areas, do employees/authorities not tell you to wear a mask? If so, do you give them a good reason why you cannot wear a mask?

What's the outcome, and why can't you wear a mask?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:30 pm

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Tourais wrote:Having to wear a mask does not take away a person's rights. It helps combat against the spread of this virus. It should remain mandated at this time.

I can't wear a mask. Should I just not leave the house?


I have no reason to take your word for that. WHY can't you wear a mask?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:31 pm

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CoraSpia wrote:I can't wear a mask. Should I just not leave the house?


I have no reason to take your word for that. WHY can't you wear a mask?

Some people can't because they respiratory problems
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:33 pm

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Australian rePublic wrote:I wish New South Wales would make face masks mandatory already , but unfortunately, that would require a compitant government. I purchased a reusable face mask from eBay, but unfortunately, it's lost in transit. Till it arrives, I'm stuck with single use

Is it really that hard to pass that kind of policy? West Java was pretty quick to make face mask mandatory and threatened a pretty lofty fine for violation. But the problem is in the enforcement, because last week I drove in front Gedung Sate (the governor's office), and directly across the street, is a crowded street market of bad sanitation packed with thousands of people who use mask but opened, so the mask just dangles on their chin. The Satpol PP police force, which is basically local mafia who were then employed by the city administration to maintain order, don't do anything either.

Is it really that hard to pass that policy? Apparently, it is
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:37 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Apparently the NI executive is gona make Masks mandatory in shops come the 20th if people dont step up their game. Should have been fucking mandatory already, if i can wear a mask for my shifts you can wear a mask for a few minutes in a fucking shop.

Speaking of which im the only member of staff in my shops that wears a mask consistently. At least out of everyone ive worked with since being back, occasionally they were wear a plastic face screen when going out onto the shop floor, but even sometimes they dont do that either.

I wish New South Wales would make face masks mandatory already , but unfortunately, that would require a compitant government. I purchased a reusable face mask from eBay, but unfortunately, it's lost in transit. Till it arrives, I'm stuck with single use


Wow.. reusable.masks, filters etc are in almost every supermarket and tourist shop here for a few euros... not to.mention the countless online offers.for ones with pretty prints...

Why is that not possible in your neck of the woods ?
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:39 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
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I have no reason to take your word for that. WHY can't you wear a mask?

Some people can't because they respiratory problems

Just use an Electric Face Mask will solve this problem
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:41 pm

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Australian rePublic wrote:I wish New South Wales would make face masks mandatory already , but unfortunately, that would require a compitant government. I purchased a reusable face mask from eBay, but unfortunately, it's lost in transit. Till it arrives, I'm stuck with single use


Wow.. reusable.masks, filters etc are in almost every supermarket and tourist shop here for a few euros... not to.mention the countless online offers.for ones with pretty prints...

Why is that not possible in your neck of the woods ?

Your guess is as good as mine
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Australian rePublic wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Wow.. reusable.masks, filters etc are in almost every supermarket and tourist shop here for a few euros... not to.mention the countless online offers.for ones with pretty prints...

Why is that not possible in your neck of the woods ?

Your guess is as good as mine


I could send a few.. assuming those would not also be eaten by the transitbeasts ?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:52 pm

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I have no reason to take your word for that. WHY can't you wear a mask?

Some people can't because they respiratory problems


Then they should carry around a doctor's note. But I suspect this is one of those "I asked Doctor Google and she said I had respiratory problems" self-diagnoses. No employer would accept that, so I don't see why a cop should. It's a fine for CoraSpia!
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:19 pm

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Australian rePublic wrote:Some people can't because they respiratory problems


Then they should carry around a doctor's note. But I suspect this is one of those "I asked Doctor Google and she said I had respiratory problems" self-diagnoses. No employer would accept that, so I don't see why a cop should. It's a fine for CoraSpia!

It's an 'I have touch sensitive autism and my doctor has confirmed that I have it.'

Does that answer your question?
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Then they should carry around a doctor's note. But I suspect this is one of those "I asked Doctor Google and she said I had respiratory problems" self-diagnoses. No employer would accept that, so I don't see why a cop should. It's a fine for CoraSpia!

It's an 'I have touch sensitive autism and my doctor has confirmed that I have it.'

Does that answer your question?


Not entirely. Has you doctor signed a certificate saying that because of your condition you can't wear a mask?
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Postby Tourais » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:30 pm

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Then they should carry around a doctor's note. But I suspect this is one of those "I asked Doctor Google and she said I had respiratory problems" self-diagnoses. No employer would accept that, so I don't see why a cop should. It's a fine for CoraSpia!

It's an 'I have touch sensitive autism and my doctor has confirmed that I have it.'

Does that answer your question?

And what did your doctor say regarding face masks when they found out you had touch sensitive autism...
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CoraSpia wrote:It's an 'I have touch sensitive autism and my doctor has confirmed that I have it.'

Does that answer your question?


Not entirely. Has you doctor signed a certificate saying that because of your condition you can't wear a mask?

That's not the procedure in the UK. You don't have to have a certificate signed by your doctor, because you know it's a bit of a dick move to get disabled people to prove they're disabled, because we've been asked to do that for years and it's seriously fucking demeaning. Police officers and staff are trained to recognise what the list of reasons you can't wear a facemask are, you tell them that's the reason you're not wearing one and they say 'okay.' Some companies sell exemption cards but anybody can buy one of those so they don't really prove much.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:32 pm

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CoraSpia wrote:It's an 'I have touch sensitive autism and my doctor has confirmed that I have it.'

Does that answer your question?

And what did your doctor say regarding face masks when they found out you had touch sensitive autism...

Nothing...because they found out when I was 7 years old, 16 years ago.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:37 pm

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Not entirely. Has you doctor signed a certificate saying that because of your condition you can't wear a mask?

That's not the procedure in the UK. You don't have to have a certificate signed by your doctor, because you know it's a bit of a dick move to get disabled people to prove they're disabled, because we've been asked to do that for years and it's seriously fucking demeaning. Police officers and staff are trained to recognise what the list of reasons you can't wear a facemask are, you tell them that's the reason you're not wearing one and they say 'okay.' Some companies sell exemption cards but anybody can buy one of those so they don't really prove much.


If I were a cop and "I have touch-sensitive autism" was your excuse, I'd give you a ticket. You can appeal it in court, where you WILL bring a doctor's note or lose.

This "I don't have to prove anything because it would be demeaning for me" does not strike me as valid. You're asking for an exception to a rule that applies to everyone, you should show some proof of why you should get that exception.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:40 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:That's not the procedure in the UK. You don't have to have a certificate signed by your doctor, because you know it's a bit of a dick move to get disabled people to prove they're disabled, because we've been asked to do that for years and it's seriously fucking demeaning. Police officers and staff are trained to recognise what the list of reasons you can't wear a facemask are, you tell them that's the reason you're not wearing one and they say 'okay.' Some companies sell exemption cards but anybody can buy one of those so they don't really prove much.


If I were a cop and "I have touch-sensitive autism" was your excuse, I'd give you a ticket. You can appeal it in court, where you WILL bring a doctor's note or lose.

This "I don't have to prove anything because it would be demeaning for me" does not strike me as valid. You're asking for an exception to a rule that applies to everyone, you should show some proof of why you should get that exception.

I'd report a hate incident, and go get a doctors note. Police however are obliged to accept this which lives on my phone. Like I said though, anyone can get one. I've not had any problems with the police from gently explaining though.
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Postby Tourais » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:42 pm

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Tourais wrote:And what did your doctor say regarding face masks when they found out you had touch sensitive autism...

Nothing...because they found out when I was 7 years old, 16 years ago.

Dude I'm asking this because you're going to run into the wrong person one day without a mask and they won't take that as an excuse.

People aren't gonna believe everything you'll say, they need to actually see evidence and a clear explanation or your ass is getting kicked out anyway.
Actually get a doctor's note.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:44 pm

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CoraSpia wrote:Nothing...because they found out when I was 7 years old, 16 years ago.

Dude I'm asking this because you're going to run into the wrong person one day without a mask and they won't take that as an excuse.

People aren't gonna believe everything you'll say, they need to actually see evidence and a clear explanation or your ass is getting kicked out anyway.
Actually get a doctor's note.

I do worry about small shops. As I said though, the government's already made it clear that people shouldn't be expected to provide proof of exemption so I'd report a hate incident.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:51 pm

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Then they should carry around a doctor's note. But I suspect this is one of those "I asked Doctor Google and she said I had respiratory problems" self-diagnoses. No employer would accept that, so I don't see why a cop should. It's a fine for CoraSpia!

It's an 'I have touch sensitive autism and my doctor has confirmed that I have it.'

Does that answer your question?

I have aspberger's :hug:
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