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by Wariaku » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:06 am
by Ansarre » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:14 am
Wariaku wrote:Oh God, not another vehicle for the perpetuation of neoliberalism.
Let the whole EU fall apart, if they will not see how the tide has turned. Since the beginning of the century, every popular referendum has been a resoudning NO against this idée fixe of the neoliberals. Britain has already left. When will they learn that NO means NO?
by Ansarre » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:22 am
by Bienenhalde » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:35 pm
by Bienenhalde » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:44 pm
Vivolkha wrote:The point of my post is that, if Europe reunites, a 4th German Reich, a Holy Roman Empire or Austria-Hungary will not magically pop up from their graves and be restored to "greatness". Too many people have this kind of fantasy and I seriously can not comprehend why.
by Luziyca » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:50 pm
by Slavakino » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:15 pm
by Slavakino » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:17 pm
Luziyca wrote:Personally, I'd say yes, to the point where the EU can serve as a counterweight to America and China, mostly so Canada won't have to pick between one or the other. But it is the people who decide, and I kinda doubt many in the EU would want to live under a federal Europe.
by Stellar Colonies » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:31 pm
Slavakino wrote:Luziyca wrote:Personally, I'd say yes, to the point where the EU can serve as a counterweight to America and China, mostly so Canada won't have to pick between one or the other. But it is the people who decide, and I kinda doubt many in the EU would want to live under a federal Europe.
Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
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by The Alma Mater » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:34 pm
Slavakino wrote:Luziyca wrote:Personally, I'd say yes, to the point where the EU can serve as a counterweight to America and China, mostly so Canada won't have to pick between one or the other. But it is the people who decide, and I kinda doubt many in the EU would want to live under a federal Europe.
Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
by Slavakino » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:37 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Slavakino wrote:Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
Why assume it will be like the eu ? Traditionally Europe is a continent of conquering warmongers.
by Shanghai industrial complex » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:48 pm
Slavakino wrote:Luziyca wrote:Personally, I'd say yes, to the point where the EU can serve as a counterweight to America and China, mostly so Canada won't have to pick between one or the other. But it is the people who decide, and I kinda doubt many in the EU would want to live under a federal Europe.
Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
by -Astoria- » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:00 am
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by Broader Confederate States » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:03 am
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by The Blaatschapen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:45 am
Broader Confederate States wrote:Why not do the opposite? Instead of try to force different European nationalities to live together, split apart the countries that threaten their security?
by The Islands of Versilia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:45 am
by Vivolkha » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:50 am
Slavakino wrote:Luziyca wrote:Personally, I'd say yes, to the point where the EU can serve as a counterweight to America and China, mostly so Canada won't have to pick between one or the other. But it is the people who decide, and I kinda doubt many in the EU would want to live under a federal Europe.
Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
by Lanoraie II » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:54 am
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:54 am
Slavakino wrote:Luziyca wrote:Personally, I'd say yes, to the point where the EU can serve as a counterweight to America and China, mostly so Canada won't have to pick between one or the other. But it is the people who decide, and I kinda doubt many in the EU would want to live under a federal Europe.
Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
by Shanghai industrial complex » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:58 am
by -Astoria- » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:02 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:I believe that the only reason for peace and unity in Europe in the cold war is the Soviet Union
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by The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:06 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:Slavakino wrote:Knowing the EU, they are gonna pass some bullshit like demilitarisation, anti-nuclear and "peace" bullshit. If you want a counterweight to both China and the USA, you already have Russia or better yet you can reform the Soviet Union
This peace bullshit has worked quite well.
France and Germany had an "every generation we need a war" tradition. This has been thoroughly dismantled and the idea of war between the two is nowadays far fetched.
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