Texas Republicans propose State Electoral college

[La Xinga]

Uhm, why does this favor more Republicans than Dems?

Gerrymandering is the primary reason. Why shouldn’t the person with the most votes win?

Even so, if the Democrats gain control of everything in Texas, it would be just as hard for the repubs to gain everything back, amma right?

[Thermodolia]

Gerrymandering is the primary reason. Why shouldn’t the person with the most votes win?

Even so, if the Democrats gain control of everything in Texas, it would be just as hard for the repubs to gain everything back, amma right?

Under the system proposed yes it would. Which is why we need to have something other than FPTP as people want to vote for other parties

[San Lumen]

Gerrymandering is the primary reason. Why shouldn’t the person with the most votes win?

Even so, if the Democrats gain control of everything in Texas, it would be just as hard for the repubs to gain everything back, amma right?

Not nessacerily. The primary reason they are proposing this is so they can win without getting the most votes statewide. They see the trends in the most populous counties and want a way to guarantee they will stay in power

[La Xinga]

Even so, if the Democrats gain control of everything in Texas, it would be just as hard for the repubs to gain everything back, amma right?

Not nessacerily. The primary reason they are proposing this is so they can win without getting the most votes statewide. They see the trends in the most populous counties and want a way to guarantee they will stay in power

Yes, I fully understand, but since dems are beginning to have higher amounts in Texas, if the Dems take control, it would be hard for Repubs to take it back as well!

[San Lumen]

Not nessacerily. The primary reason they are proposing this is so they can win without getting the most votes statewide. They see the trends in the most populous counties and want a way to guarantee they will stay in power

Yes, I fully understand, but since dems are beginning to have higher amounts in Texas, if the Dems take control, it would be hard for Repubs to take it back as well!

It’s still going to be very difficult to get a majority in both chambers of the legislature. The state senate especially.

Do you truly thinks it’s fair for a candidate for statewide office to win via such a system where they didn’t get the most votes?

[La Xinga]

Yes, I fully understand, but since dems are beginning to have higher amounts in Texas, if the Dems take control, it would be hard for Repubs to take it back as well!

It’s still going to be very difficult to get a majority in both chambers of the legislature. The state senate especially.

Amazing, but it's just making it more difficult for both parties.

Do you truly thinks it’s fair for a candidate for statewide office to win via such a system where they didn’t get the most votes?

I'm not a strong believer in democracy anyway, but that's not the point of this thread.

[San Lumen]

It’s still going to be very difficult to get a majority in both chambers of the legislature. The state senate especially.

Amazing, but it's just making it more difficult for both parties.

Do you truly thinks it’s fair for a candidate for statewide office to win via such a system where they didn’t get the most votes?

I'm not a strong believer in democracy anyway, but that's not the point of this thread.

Why should winning statewide office be difficult?

You didn’t answer my question

[La Xinga]

Amazing, but it's just making it more difficult for both parties.


I'm not a strong believer in democracy anyway, but that's not the point of this thread.

Why should winning statewide office be difficult?

You didn’t answer my question

Why should it be easy?! We don't want the wrong people.

And if you want a direct answer, then the answer to your below Q would be yes.

[San Lumen]

Why should winning statewide office be difficult?

You didn’t answer my question

Why should it be easy?! We don't want the wrong people.

And if you want a direct answer, then the answer to your below Q would be yes.

Don’t want the wrong people? What is that supposed to mean? If you get the most votes you should win. End of story. Period. Goodbye. The end.

How would it be fair and democratic?

[La Xinga]

Why should it be easy?! We don't want the wrong people.

And if you want a direct answer, then the answer to your below Q would be yes.

Don’t want the wrong people? What is that supposed to mean? If you get the most votes you should win. End of story. Period. Goodbye. The end.

How would it be fair and democratic?

1. Your opinion. You could have people that are horrible running, experienced people need to vote them in.
2. If it's a democracy, it would eventually lead to the people. Who votes the people who vote him in? Who votes for the people who vote for people who vote for people who vote him/her in? Eventually it will lead to the people.

[San Lumen]

Don’t want the wrong people? What is that supposed to mean? If you get the most votes you should win. End of story. Period. Goodbye. The end.

How would it be fair and democratic?

1. Your opinion. You could have people that are horrible running, experienced people need to vote them in.
2. If it's a democracy, it would eventually lead to the people. Who votes the people who vote him in? Who votes for the people who vote for people who vote for people who vote him/her in? Eventually it will lead to the people.

If that’s who the people want then so be it. There shouldn’t be a system in place to overturn the will of the people.

Do you not understand how this is a way to rig the election so republicans can’t lose?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I think a state vote should be held to determine if the constitution needs to be changed that way. In any case, all the districts should get one representative to the election, regardless of population.

[San Lumen]

I think a state vote should be held to determine if the constitution needs to be changed that way. In any case, all the districts should get one representative to the election, regardless of population.

Yes there should be a referendum. It’s unlikely it would pass though

Or how about the person with the most votes wins? Amazing concept I know

[CoraSpia]

this is why large states and countries are bad. Texas should exercise its right to split itself up instead.

[The Reformed American Republic]

1. Your opinion. You could have people that are horrible running, experienced people need to vote them in.
2. If it's a democracy, it would eventually lead to the people. Who votes the people who vote him in? Who votes for the people who vote for people who vote for people who vote him/her in? Eventually it will lead to the people.

If that’s who the people want then so be it. There shouldn’t be a system in place to overturn the will of the people.

Do you not understand how this is a way to rig the election so republicans can’t lose?

Also electoral colleges don't overturn votes based on merit of the politician.

[San Lumen]

If that’s who the people want then so be it. There shouldn’t be a system in place to overturn the will of the people.

Do you not understand how this is a way to rig the election so republicans can’t lose?

Also electoral colleges don't overturn votes based on merit of the politician.

No it overturns it based on zip code or who much dirt you win on a map

[-Astoria-]

this is why large states and countries are bad. Texas should exercise its right to split itself up instead.

"right"

Do you forget what happened 150 years ago?

[Jakker]

Republicans are corrupt right-wingers that do fascist things to gain more political power.

This is just enough for me to see as actionable and trolling. You just received a warning yesterday for something similar but it was issued only a bit before you posted this which is the only reason why I'm not escalating things further and just giving you another *** Warning for Trolling (All X are Y) ***. I would encourage you to read our forum rules to make sure you know what is expected of you.

[Estanglia]

It’s still going to be very difficult to get a majority in both chambers of the legislature. The state senate especially.

Amazing, but it's just making it more difficult for both parties.

Do you truly thinks it’s fair for a candidate for statewide office to win via such a system where they didn’t get the most votes?

I'm not a strong believer in democracy anyway, but that's not the point of this thread.

It's only really making it more difficult for the Democrats, since the Republicans are the ones with the most control right now, and an electoral college would make it harder for Democrats to take a majority.

Sure, if the Democrats became the majority, it would then be more difficult for Republicans to take it back, but that's an "if" that I'm pretty sure isn't the case right now.

[Greed and Death]

this is why large states and countries are bad. Texas should exercise its right to split itself up instead.

"right"

Do you forget what happened 150 years ago?

Texas still has the right to split into many states.

[La Xinga]

1. Your opinion. You could have people that are horrible running, experienced people need to vote them in.
2. If it's a democracy, it would eventually lead to the people. Who votes the people who vote him in? Who votes for the people who vote for people who vote for people who vote him/her in? Eventually it will lead to the people.

If that’s who the people want then so be it. There shouldn’t be a system in place to overturn the will of the people.

Do you not understand how this is a way to rig the election so republicans can’t lose?

1. If it keeps on leading through and through the government, it can be a filter for sorruption.
2. If that's the case, it's flawed. After all, again, if Dems take control, it would be just as hard for repubs to take control.

Amazing, but it's just making it more difficult for both parties.


I'm not a strong believer in democracy anyway, but that's not the point of this thread.

It's only really making it more difficult for the Democrats, since the Republicans are the ones with the most control right now, and an electoral college would make it harder for Democrats to take a majority.

Sure, if the Democrats became the majority, it would then be more difficult for Republicans to take it back, but that's an "if" that I'm pretty sure isn't the case right now.

1. But if the Democrats gain a majority it would be just as hard for republicans to take it back.
2. It seems Joe will win in Nov, so...........yeah. And the immigrants from Latin America usually vote Democrat, and some of them go to Texas, so Texas is becoming more Democrat, and that's clear.

[Estanglia]

It's only really making it more difficult for the Democrats, since the Republicans are the ones with the most control right now, and an electoral college would make it harder for Democrats to take a majority.

Sure, if the Democrats became the majority, it would then be more difficult for Republicans to take it back, but that's an "if" that I'm pretty sure isn't the case right now.

1. But if the Democrats gain a majority it would be just as hard for republicans to take it back.

Yes, if.

2. It seems Joe will win in Nov, so...........yeah. And the immigrants from Latin America usually vote Democrat, and some of them go to Texas, so Texas is becoming more Democrat, and that's clear.

Yes.
Which might be why the Republicans are pulling this move, to make it harder for Democrats to get a majority.

[La Xinga]

1. But if the Democrats gain a majority it would be just as hard for republicans to take it back.

Yes, if.

2. It seems Joe will win in Nov, so...........yeah. And the immigrants from Latin America usually vote Democrat, and some of them go to Texas, so Texas is becoming more Democrat, and that's clear.

Yes.
Which might be why the Republicans are pulling this move, to make it harder for Democrats to get a majority.

It's likely gonna happen at some point, and once the Dems gain control, it will be harder for the Republicans to gain it back.

[San Lumen]

Yes, if.



Yes.
Which might be why the Republicans are pulling this move, to make it harder for Democrats to get a majority.

It's likely gonna happen at some point, and once the Dems gain control, it will be harder for the Republicans to gain it back.

Not if republicans have their way. They will do everything they can to ensure they win even if it means getting less votes

The system being proposed would make it very difficult if not impossible for a democrat to win statewide office. They are angry that they won’t be able to count on small rural counties to win statewide elections for much longer

[Nobel Hobos 2]

"right"

Do you forget what happened 150 years ago?

Texas still has the right to split into many states.

Let's hear your evil plan to make two red-forever states and one blue state.
Let's see if you can overcome the Republican obsession with looking big on the map ...
Also don't forget oil refineries and ports.
Obviously you can't have cities, but it's a small price to pay for more Senators amiright?