Texas Republicans propose State Electoral college

[Necroghastia]

I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

It's their state too, you know.

[Radiatia]

That just doesn't make any sense to me. While I can, on an academic level, understand the argument behind having a federal-level electoral college, having it on a state level is illogical and undemocratic, plain and simple. It's very disappointing behaviour.

If I was American I'd be more likely to vote Republican than Democrat, but even I will say that if you can't win an election on the merits of your argument and have to resort to rorting or rigging the system, then you have no business running for office or being in power.

[Cisairse]

I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

"The rest of us," in this case, of course, being a mob.

[Neanderthaland]

Disgusting.

[New haven america]

1. I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. 2. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. 3. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

1. I wonder, do people who make this argument believe that left-leaning Americans only live in big cities? Cause my county's pretty left-leaning and the biggest town here is only ~50,000 people give or take, while when I lived in Colorado Springs the population was ~500,000 and it was pretty right-leaning.
2. Well Atlanta's a part of Georgia so they have just as much say about what should happen to the state as some rando living in bumfuck middle of no where.
3. Most Republican areas of the country don't have the population or economic power to fight back, generally because right-wing economic and social norms and policies are generally pretty bad for socioeconomic growth.

[Christian Confederation]

I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

It's their state too, you know.

Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do. People are fleeing California and New York because Democrats ran them into the ground, We have a right to decide who leads us. The Democrats think they can run everything because they have the cities, but they forget it's us deplorables in the county that insure the shelves are stocked and they don't starve. If they don't remember that and treat us right we may have to remind them who controls the food.

[Alcala-Cordel]

I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

The popular vote isn't "mob rule", it's a system of popular support that basically every other democracy uses. Who cares if a lot of the population lives in cities, it's still people voting. Proponents have so many hypotheticals (wHaT iF tHe MaJoRiTy iS OpPrEsSiVe) that ignore the fact that unpopular leaders are generally more oppressive, but there really is no reason.

The electoral college is counterproductive to democracy locally and nationally, just like the two-party system is.

[Rusozak]

I think an electoral college is undemocratic just by itself. All of them at all government levels should be banned. An electoral college effectively disenfranchises everyone by turning their voting power into what's practically just a suggestion.

[Christian Confederation]

I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

The popular vote isn't "mob rule", it's a system of popular support that basically every other democracy uses. Who cares if a lot of the population lives in cities, it's still people voting. Proponents have so many hypotheticals (wHaT iF tHe MaJoRiTy iS OpPrEsSiVe) that ignore the fact that unpopular leaders are generally more oppressive, but there really is no reason.

The electoral college is counterproductive to democracy locally and nationally.

We need to separate into 2 systems one Country. The Democrats can run there cities into the ground whall the rest of us go about our business and stop being there farm.

[Cisairse]

It's their state too, you know.

Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do.

So you have a right to tell them what to do?

[Rusozak]

The popular vote isn't "mob rule", it's a system of popular support that basically every other democracy uses. Who cares if a lot of the population lives in cities, it's still people voting. Proponents have so many hypotheticals (wHaT iF tHe MaJoRiTy iS OpPrEsSiVe) that ignore the fact that unpopular leaders are generally more oppressive, but there really is no reason.

The electoral college is counterproductive to democracy locally and nationally.

We need to separate into 2 systems one Country. The Democrats can run there cities into the ground whall the rest of us go about our business and stop being there farm.

Funny, I had the same idea about letting the yeehaws kill each other off with covid and lynch mobs.

[Stellar Colonies]

It's their state too, you know.

Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do. People are fleeing California and New York because Democrats ran them into the ground, We have a right to decide who leads us. The Democrats think they can run everything because they have the cities, but they forget it's us deplorables in the county that insure the shelves are stocked and they don't starve. If they don't remember that and treat us right we may have to remind them who controls the food.

California is a net donor state.

[Mississippi River Country]

Good for them. Representative democracy is a good system. City slickers are somewhat like ants in an ant hill, all working for the same corporations and reading the same newspapers. If the people refuse to remove the collar big media has around their necks then we must act to protect representation for the 99% land area.

[Christian Confederation]

Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do.

So you have a right to tell them what to do?

Of course not. We do our thing, they do there things.

[New haven america]

It's their state too, you know.

1. Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do. 2. People are fleeing California and New York because Democrats ran them into the ground, 3. We have a right to decide who leads us. 4. The Democrats think they can run everything because they have the cities, but they forget it's us deplorables in the county that insure the shelves are stocked and they don't starve. 5. If they don't remember that and treat us right we may have to remind them who controls the food.

1. And you don't have that right either, this is a 2 way street pal.
2. Actually, people are leaving there because they're so economically successful that a middle class person in Georgia would be considered poor there. However, I like how you ignore the fact that their population is constantly growing and an ~equal number of people move to those areas as they do leave, so they're mostly in a migration equilibrium.
3. Yes, and that's decided through elections that run by popular vote.
4. Ironically the only people who make this claim that Dems think those in the country are deplorable are those who live in the country. I feel sorry if that's how you view yourself, as I live in the country and I don't think that. Also, California is a democratic stronghold and is one of the top 10 major food producers in the country, so good luck with that idea.
5. Those with economic power control the food, so the richer areas of the control it, not you.

[Thermodolia]

It explicitly states in the Texas constitution that politicians MUST be elected by popular vote?

It doesn’t matter. It would violate one man, one vote

If that was the case Mississippi’s EC would have been struck down ages ago.

[Thermodolia]

I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

Instead you’d rather tell Atlanta what to do, which has been the case for the last century.

Atlanta doesn’t tell anyone what to do in this state. To suggest that is to show that you have no clue about how anything is run

[Thermodolia]

1. I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. 2. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. 3. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.

1. I wonder, do people who make this argument believe that left-leaning Americans only live in big cities? Cause my county's pretty left-leaning and the biggest town here is only ~50,000 people give or take, while when I lived in Colorado Springs the population was ~500,000 and it was pretty right-leaning.
2. Well Atlanta's a part of Georgia so they have just as much say about what should happen to the state as some rando living in bumfuck middle of no where.
3. Most Republican areas of the country don't have the population or economic power to fight back, generally because right-wing economic and social norms and policies are generally pretty bad for socioeconomic growth.

He’s factually wrong as Atlanta doesn’t have the power of say LA or Chicago to tell anyone else what to do. Hell the city is very much politically split with many in the metro being republicans, but I guess facts dont matter

[Thermodolia]

So you have a right to tell them what to do?

Of course not. We do our thing, they do there things.

Except Kemp literally has told Atlanta that they can’t do what they want.

[Alcala-Cordel]

The popular vote isn't "mob rule", it's a system of popular support that basically every other democracy uses. Who cares if a lot of the population lives in cities, it's still people voting. Proponents have so many hypotheticals (wHaT iF tHe MaJoRiTy iS OpPrEsSiVe) that ignore the fact that unpopular leaders are generally more oppressive, but there really is no reason.

The electoral college is counterproductive to democracy locally and nationally.

We need to separate into 2 systems one Country. The Democrats can run there cities into the ground whall the rest of us go about our business and stop being there farm.

Why? Democrats and Republicans are both reactionary parties under the thumb of the bourgeoisie. Land shouldn't be voting, people should. Besides, if the country is controlled exclusively by Republicans they'll screw up the climate a lot more than it already is.

The reason the cities are in their current state is due to the apathetic nature of capitalism.

[Thermodolia]

1. Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do. 2. People are fleeing California and New York because Democrats ran them into the ground, 3. We have a right to decide who leads us. 4. The Democrats think they can run everything because they have the cities, but they forget it's us deplorables in the county that insure the shelves are stocked and they don't starve. 5. If they don't remember that and treat us right we may have to remind them who controls the food.

1. And you don't have that right either, this is a 2 way street pal.
2. Actually, people are leaving there because they're so economically successful that a middle class person in Georgia would be considered poor there. However, I like how you ignore the fact that their population is constantly growing and an ~equal number of people move to those areas as they do leave, so they're mostly in a migration equilibrium.
3. Yes, and that's decided through elections that run by popular vote.
4. Ironically the only people who make this claim that Dems think those in the country are deplorable are those who live in the country. I feel sorry if that's how you view yourself, as I live in the country and I don't think that. Also, California is a democratic stronghold and is one of the top 10 major food producers in the country, so good luck with that idea.
5. Those with economic power control the food, so the richer areas of the control it, not you.

I wouldn’t say that number two is a great thing, at least it isn’t when it’s nearly impossible to find a home to live in. But I’m sure you don’t think it’s great either

[New haven america]

1. I wonder, do people who make this argument believe that left-leaning Americans only live in big cities? Cause my county's pretty left-leaning and the biggest town here is only ~50,000 people give or take, while when I lived in Colorado Springs the population was ~500,000 and it was pretty right-leaning.
2. Well Atlanta's a part of Georgia so they have just as much say about what should happen to the state as some rando living in bumfuck middle of no where.
3. Most Republican areas of the country don't have the population or economic power to fight back, generally because right-wing economic and social norms and policies are generally pretty bad for socioeconomic growth.

He’s factually wrong as Atlanta doesn’t have the power of say LA or Chicago to tell anyone else what to do. Hell the city is very much politically split with many in the metro being republicans, but I guess facts dont matter

Also true, they're ignoring the fact that cities aren't all democrat and rural areas aren't all conservative.

When I lived in Colorado Springs it was super Christian and Libertarian-Conservative, whereas now I live in a rural area in Oregon with a smaller county population as the entire city of CS and this area's super Liberal/Progressive.

[Thermodolia]

He’s factually wrong as Atlanta doesn’t have the power of say LA or Chicago to tell anyone else what to do. Hell the city is very much politically split with many in the metro being republicans, but I guess facts dont matter

Also true, they're ignoring the fact that cities aren't all democrat and rural areas aren't all conservative.

When I lived in Colorado Springs it's was super Christian and Libertarian-Conservative, whereas now I live in a rural area in Oregon with a smaller county population as the entire city of CS and this area's super Liberal/Progressive.

Yup. The north metro and north Atlanta are all very Republican/libertarian and super rich. While a lot of towns in South Georgia are democrat voters

[New haven america]

1. And you don't have that right either, this is a 2 way street pal.
2. Actually, people are leaving there because they're so economically successful that a middle class person in Georgia would be considered poor there. However, I like how you ignore the fact that their population is constantly growing and an ~equal number of people move to those areas as they do leave, so they're mostly in a migration equilibrium.
3. Yes, and that's decided through elections that run by popular vote.
4. Ironically the only people who make this claim that Dems think those in the country are deplorable are those who live in the country. I feel sorry if that's how you view yourself, as I live in the country and I don't think that. Also, California is a democratic stronghold and is one of the top 10 major food producers in the country, so good luck with that idea.
5. Those with economic power control the food, so the richer areas of the control it, not you.

I wouldn’t say that number two is a great thing, at least it isn’t when it’s nearly impossible to find a home to live in. But I’m sure you don’t think it’s great either

That is correct, I think it's downright near disgraceful.

However, it does disprove a point a lot of conservatives like to tout about, and that's that liberal/progressive policies will just lead to economic downfall and societal collapse, when in reality 2 of the 4 richest and most economically successful areas in the country operate off of those principles and are head over heals more successful than the other 2 (Hell, one of them, Florida, is actually split in half with the more conservative area being much poorer and less successful than the liberal/progressive area).

[Gormwood]

Looks like they're planning for when a good portion of their voting base dies because of their Fuck Social Distancing bandwaggoning.