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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:29 pm

I'd probably think of Destroy All Humans, to be honest.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:35 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:I'd probably think of Destroy All Humans, to be honest.


They wouldn't land if that was their motive.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:38 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:39 pm

FutureAmerica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Don;t you think they would have thought about that before arriving on Earth?


No, they wouldn't because they've never been to Earth, so how could they know. The Spanish didn't know when they arrived in the New World, nor did they care.

I would think a civilization advanced enough to travel the stars would plan for such a scenario and to everything possible to avoid it if they haven’t already figured out how to do so

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Postby Atheris » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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No, they wouldn't because they've never been to Earth, so how could they know. The Spanish didn't know when they arrived in the New World, nor did they care.

I would think a civilization advanced enough to travel the stars would plan for such a scenario and to everything possible to avoid it if they haven’t already figured out how to do so

It's like the aliens from Signs who are weak to water should not have landed on Earth, a planet made up of 70% water.
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Postby Notallow » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:41 pm

I wouldn't do anything different. My citizens aren't allowed to do anything so nothing different would happen anyway

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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:52 pm

With the way this decade's been going, I'd be surprised if it didn't go the way of TheSunVanished. If that was the case, I'd die immediately.

But OP said this would be peaceful, so I'd probably just watch the news for a while as I let the situation sank in.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:53 pm

Notallow wrote:I wouldn't do anything different. My citizens aren't allowed to do anything so nothing different would happen anyway


You have no citizens here, you're just a person typing like the rest of us. Be afraid! General is OOC.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:01 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:With the way this decade's been going, I'd be surprised if it didn't go the way of TheSunVanished. If that was the case, I'd die immediately.

But OP said this would be peaceful, so I'd probably just watch the news for a while as I let the situation sank in.


If I understand that scenario, suddenly it's night time and it starts getting colder. But when the sun would normally come up it doesn't, and it gets colder and colder. Within a few days it would be freezing temperature everywhere.

But that's a few days to party, or make amends with old enemies, or whatever it is you dreamed of doing before you die. Why kill yourself?
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPe » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:07 pm

La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:With the way this decade's been going, I'd be surprised if it didn't go the way of TheSunVanished. If that was the case, I'd die immediately.

But OP said this would be peaceful, so I'd probably just watch the news for a while as I let the situation sank in.

The sun vanishing would probably take too long if the trend of humanity stupidity and global warming continue.
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Postby Diahon » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:12 pm

get me, my mom, and everyone else who just wants peace to get out of this planet

away from the dicks who just want people to oppress

that's it, no more suffering

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:17 pm

Diahon wrote:get me, my mom, and everyone else who just wants peace to get out of this planet

away from the dicks who just want people to oppress

that's it, no more suffering


That might be most people. But I'm sure it's possible: just digitize and store us, then recreate us on some other planet.

(Where we will promptly start a war over the limited supply of toilet paper).
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Postby Diahon » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:20 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Diahon wrote:get me, my mom, and everyone else who just wants peace to get out of this planet

away from the dicks who just want people to oppress

that's it, no more suffering


That might be most people. But I'm sure it's possible: just digitize and store us, then recreate us on some other planet.

(Where we will promptly start a war over the limited supply of toilet paper).


a few eons of nothingness would be nice, no one gets dicked about

it'd be incredibly peaceful, oblivion

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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:21 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
La Paz de Los Ricos wrote:With the way this decade's been going, I'd be surprised if it didn't go the way of TheSunVanished. If that was the case, I'd die immediately.

But OP said this would be peaceful, so I'd probably just watch the news for a while as I let the situation sank in.


If I understand that scenario, suddenly it's night time and it starts getting colder. But when the sun would normally come up it doesn't, and it gets colder and colder. Within a few days it would be freezing temperature everywhere.

But that's a few days to party, or make amends with old enemies, or whatever it is you dreamed of doing before you die. Why kill yourself?


No, the alternate reality game. Where it's a guy documenting his survival of an alien invasion of Earth? I'm saying I'd get killed quickly and easily in the early beginnings of that invasion. But, come to think of it, your idea is pretty thought-provoking. What would you do if the sun actually went out?

But that's trailing from the main topic. If extraterrestrials landed on Earth and established a peaceful dialogue with humanity, I'd immediately have hope that Star Trek may actually become a reality. That is, for a little while, before the alien embassies get raided by angry humans and whatnot, and drive them off the planet.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
FutureAmerica wrote:
No, they wouldn't because they've never been to Earth, so how could they know. The Spanish didn't know when they arrived in the New World, nor did they care.

I would think a civilization advanced enough to travel the stars would plan for such a scenario and to everything possible to avoid it if they haven’t already figured out how to do so


Though they could be believers in "survival of the fittest". Genuinely believing that strife and suffering causes one to grow; therefor infecting us with all kinds of things to weed out the weak and promote the strong so that our race becomes better.

A bit Thanos like. Or B5 shadows for a more nuanced approach.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:16 am

FutureAmerica wrote:You scenario would be nice, but the reality is that they will bring alien diseases that will wipe out humanity.


You're assuming a compatible biology that means viral and/or bacterial transmission is possible.

In terms of your Spaniards in the New World example, all of the relevant parties were human; that's patently not the case here. While we obviously have inter-species virus transmission on planet Earth (gives a good hard stare at coronavirus and HIV), when it does happen that's between species that share a reasonably similar biochemistry. We can't really assume that's the case with the scenario in the OP (though imagine the fascinating evolutionary implications if we did share enough of a biochemistry with aliens to catch their illnesses).

Likewise, in the reverse H.G. Wells scenario - where our microbes wipe them out - at least all of the relevant parties in that fictional scenario were from the same solar system; which is also not the case here. Though it's not unreasonable to assume that any species capable of regular interstellar space flight alongside other species will have likely resolved the issue of their susceptibility to us.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:40 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I would think a civilization advanced enough to travel the stars would plan for such a scenario and to everything possible to avoid it if they haven’t already figured out how to do so


Though they could be believers in "survival of the fittest". Genuinely believing that strife and suffering causes one to grow; therefor infecting us with all kinds of things to weed out the weak and promote the strong so that our race becomes better.

A bit Thanos like. Or B5 shadows for a more nuanced approach.


Exoeugenics, good sci-fi, really great sci-fi if "all kinds of things" includes memes, historical additions, and slight deviations in the bullets from Lee Harvey Oswald's gun.

Bear with me, I'm quoting the most-quoted part of any Presidential speech. Besides "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall" I guess.

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Yeah, the others too. Hmm.
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Postby MGTOWia » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:33 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
FutureAmerica wrote:You scenario would be nice, but the reality is that they will bring alien diseases that will wipe out humanity.


You're assuming a compatible biology that means viral and/or bacterial transmission is possible.

In terms of your Spaniards in the New World example, all of the relevant parties were human; that's patently not the case here. While we obviously have inter-species virus transmission on planet Earth (gives a good hard stare at coronavirus and HIV), when it does happen that's between species that share a reasonably similar biochemistry. We can't really assume that's the case with the scenario in the OP (though imagine the fascinating evolutionary implications if we did share enough of a biochemistry with aliens to catch their illnesses).

Likewise, in the reverse H.G. Wells scenario - where our microbes wipe them out - at least all of the relevant parties in that fictional scenario were from the same solar system; which is also not the case here. Though it's not unreasonable to assume that any species capable of regular interstellar space flight alongside other species will have likely resolved the issue of their susceptibility to us.


And you're assuming that the aliens wouldn't deliberately introduce viruses or other biological agents engineered to be effective against us. Which would likely require advance scouting of Earth, something an interstellar civilization would probably be able to do.

There's no way to know beforehand if aliens would have malevolent intent.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:34 am

MGTOWia wrote:There's no way to know beforehand if aliens would have malevolent intent.


Perhaps the important question is: why shouldn't they. We are a species that tortures other species of this planet for entertainment and even have little qualms putting our own in concentration camps or sweatshops.

Were I in the aliens shoes I would nuke from orbit.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:44 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:There's no way to know beforehand if aliens would have malevolent intent.


Perhaps the important question is: why shouldn't they. We are a species that tortures other species of this planet for entertainment and even have little qualms putting our own in concentration camps or sweatshops.

Were I in the aliens shoes I would nuke from orbit.


Yet we tolerate and even nurture cats. They do nasty things but since they're not a threat to us, we find them cute.

If we posed to no threat to aliens, they might tolerate us just the same way. Nasty ... but cute.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:45 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Perhaps the important question is: why shouldn't they. We are a species that tortures other species of this planet for entertainment and even have little qualms putting our own in concentration camps or sweatshops.

Were I in the aliens shoes I would nuke from orbit.


Yet we tolerate and even nurture cats. They do nasty things but since they're not a threat to us, we find them cute.

If we posed to no threat to aliens, they might tolerate us just the same way. Nasty ... but cute.

literally the UTP draft from stellaris invicta wtf?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:49 am

Atheris wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Yet we tolerate and even nurture cats. They do nasty things but since they're not a threat to us, we find them cute.

If we posed to no threat to aliens, they might tolerate us just the same way. Nasty ... but cute.

literally the UTP draft from stellaris invicta wtf?


Wtf indeed. Seems I re-invented something?
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:36 pm

MGTOWia wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
You're assuming a compatible biology that means viral and/or bacterial transmission is possible.

In terms of your Spaniards in the New World example, all of the relevant parties were human; that's patently not the case here. While we obviously have inter-species virus transmission on planet Earth (gives a good hard stare at coronavirus and HIV), when it does happen that's between species that share a reasonably similar biochemistry. We can't really assume that's the case with the scenario in the OP (though imagine the fascinating evolutionary implications if we did share enough of a biochemistry with aliens to catch their illnesses).

Likewise, in the reverse H.G. Wells scenario - where our microbes wipe them out - at least all of the relevant parties in that fictional scenario were from the same solar system; which is also not the case here. Though it's not unreasonable to assume that any species capable of regular interstellar space flight alongside other species will have likely resolved the issue of their susceptibility to us.


And you're assuming that the aliens wouldn't deliberately introduce viruses or other biological agents engineered to be effective against us.


I am indeed making that assumption.

Largely because that's the precise scenario specifically outlined in the thread OP:

Socio Polor wrote:Let's imagine for a moment...a hypothetical scenario. A scenario in which you found out that next year, 2021, will be the year that various extraterrestrial civilizations come to earth to make contact with us humans. When I say contact, I don't mean an invasion like scenario where ETs are coming to take over the planet and enslave or wipe out humankind. I speak of a scenario where multiple different ET civilizations (lets say well over two dozen of them) come to land their crafts in a public location in order to establish open peaceful contact with the human race for the purpose of meeting each other, we as humans finding out we aren't alone in the universe, sharing cultural knowledge, etc.


An OP that you obviously didn't bother to read.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:24 pm

The only way that an alien disease or microscopic creature of any sort would be a threat to us is if our bodies were a nice home for them which contained resources that they were able to consume (which is probably unlikely in of itself). They wouldn't infect our cells or anything, the most they'd do is ransack our bodies for tasty treats from the inside out.

You could also have larger creatures which are more analogous to tapeworms and such which could survive in the environments they'd find on Earth and inside us, but they'd be very unlikely to find humans nutritious as a source of food, unless they fed on the smaller organisms mentioned above. They'd just think we were nice warm homes and starve to death within us.
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Postby Thepeopl » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:48 pm

My first reaction would be welcome, second would be asking what they can/ can't eat/ drink. Just as I do with all new guests.

Since I have many people in my life who need a special diet, that's my second nature. Find out what I can safely offer as snack/drink.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 33811.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5837012/

This is a serious issue. I would like to think they have been very careful to maintain a sterile environment in their ships. But their "gut germs" could be lethal for humans/ terrestrial life.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/worl ... 02283.html

But my curiosity for knowledge about them, their culture and life would be much greater than the fear of death.

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