Study finds State Legislatures Dominated By white Men

[Elwher]

If two candidates are equal in all other factors, then voting on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation may make a certain amount of sense. The problem is, no two candidates are ever equal in all other factors.

If a candidate's race influences your vote, you are racist to the degree that it does.

If a candidate's sex influences your vote, you are sexist to the degree that it does.

The same applies to any other factor over which the candidate has no control.

[Duvniask]

If two candidates are equal in all other factors, then voting on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation may make a certain amount of sense. The problem is, no two candidates are ever equal in all other factors.

If a candidate's race influences your vote, you are racist to the degree that it does.

If a candidate's sex influences your vote, you are sexist to the degree that it does.

The same applies to any other factor over which the candidate has no control.

Holding things ceteris paribus is largely a matter of study in the social sciences, because, as you say no two candidates (or people) are ever equal in all factors.

However, it is through our studies, where we try to uncover the independent influence of the variable sex and the variable race, that we will discover whether or not it exists and to estimate to what extent a solution can be applied (if we normatively decide it is a problem in need of solving).

[Kowani]

That fact that you think the Briggs Initiative should have passed says it all about why you have no issue with a legislature or municipal government made up of almost all white men.

I know! It says that I'm a Conservative, and certain Conservatives like me don't believe diversity ain't do nothing.

…No, it says you’re a reactionary who doesn’t understand the very things you support.

[Galloism]

Head start = favouritism. It's still stacking the deck in favour of a particular candidate.

How?

Why should we get more women and non whites to vote? Why should we care about race?

Why shouldn’t we get more women and non whites to vote? why shouldn’t we have more women and non whites running for office?

Notably, women have had the majority of the vote for like 30 years.

Efforts to “get more women to vote” is literally the same as “get more white people to vote”. I’m not against more people voting, but when your job is to get the political majority to vote more, and not the political minorities, it’s..... suspicious.

[La Xinga]

I know! It says that I'm a Conservative, and certain Conservatives like me don't believe diversity ain't do nothing.

…No, it says you’re a reactionary who doesn’t understand the very things you support.

...No, it says you don't understand what other people support.

[Elwher]

If two candidates are equal in all other factors, then voting on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation may make a certain amount of sense. The problem is, no two candidates are ever equal in all other factors.

If a candidate's race influences your vote, you are racist to the degree that it does.

If a candidate's sex influences your vote, you are sexist to the degree that it does.

The same applies to any other factor over which the candidate has no control.

Holding things ceteris paribus is largely a matter of study in the social sciences, because, as you say no two candidates (or people) are ever equal in all factors.

However, it is through our studies, where we try to uncover the independent influence of the variable sex and the variable race, that we will discover whether or not it exists and to estimate to what extent a solution can be applied (if we normatively decide it is a problem in need of solving).

There is no evidence that a candidate's race or gender influences how well they will perform if elected. Therefore, to allow such factors to influence who one votes for or against is an error. The only solution to this problem is the education of the voting populace.

[Kowani]

…No, it says you’re a reactionary who doesn’t understand the very things you support.

...No, it says you don't understand what other people support.

…The Initiative would’ve prevented LGBT+ people from working in CA public schools at all.
That’s not “anti-diversity”, that’s just homophobia.

[La Xinga]

...No, it says you don't understand what other people support.

…The Initiative would’ve prevented LGBT+ people from working in CA public schools at all.
That’s not “anti-diversity”, that’s just homophobia.

I LOVE how you took one part of my argument and scrambled it into the next!

[Kowani]

…The Initiative would’ve prevented LGBT+ people from working in CA public schools at all.
That’s not “anti-diversity”, that’s just homophobia.

I LOVE how you took one part of my argument and scrambled it into the next!

Arguments are supposed to flow entirely, they’re not disjointed Frankensteins.

[La Xinga]

I LOVE how you took one part of my argument and scrambled it into the next!

Arguments are supposed to flow entirely, they’re not disjointed Frankensteins.

We were arguing if the people being oppressed/harassed,having problems and what not need to have people in government to fix their problems, not about the morality of homosexuality.

[Kowani]

Arguments are supposed to flow entirely, they’re not disjointed Frankensteins.

We were arguing if the people being oppressed/harassed,having problems and what not need to have people in government to fix their problems, not about the morality of homosexuality.

That doesn’t…

Sigh. Yes, you were originally arguing about that. You got pulled off on a tangent about the Briggs Initiative, which you claimed “supported your views.” That is your mask off “I’m a reactionary” moment, though you don’t seem to grasp that.

[La Xinga]

We were arguing if the people being oppressed/harassed,having problems and what not need to have people in government to fix their problems, not about the morality of homosexuality.

That doesn’t…

Sigh. Yes, you were originally arguing about that. You got pulled off on a tangent about the Briggs Initiative, which you claimed “supported your views.” That is your mask off “I’m a reactionary” moment, though you don’t seem to grasp that.

If you're point is that I'm a reactionary, which has nothing to do with the topic, but than yes I am. What's your point?

[Dolgo]

How?



Why shouldn’t we get more women and non whites to vote? why shouldn’t we have more women and non whites running for office?

Notably, women have had the majority of the vote for like 30 years.

Efforts to “get more women to vote” is literally the same as “get more white people to vote”. I’m not against more people voting, but when your job is to get the political majority to vote more, and not the political minorities, it’s..... suspicious.

Make voting compulsory and make election day a holiday.

Neither of the 2 are likely to be accepted in America because my freedom something something.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Notably, women have had the majority of the vote for like 30 years.

Efforts to “get more women to vote” is literally the same as “get more white people to vote”. I’m not against more people voting, but when your job is to get the political majority to vote more, and not the political minorities, it’s..... suspicious.

Make voting compulsory and make election day a holiday.

Neither of the 2 are likely to be accepted in America because my freedom something something.

Well here (AUS) we have compulsory voting and a small fine for not voting. It works quite well, I think because the fine impresses on people that not voting is wrong, rather than fear of the fine itself.

I'd reverse it, and pay people $20 - $50 when they DO vote. That way you might not even need compulsory voting.

Make election day a public holiday by all means. We hold elections on a Saturday, but I understand that's not an option for the US.

[Shofercia]

Make voting compulsory and make election day a holiday.

Neither of the 2 are likely to be accepted in America because my freedom something something.

Well here (AUS) we have compulsory voting and a small fine for not voting. It works quite well, I think because the fine impresses on people that not voting is wrong, rather than fear of the fine itself.

I'd reverse it, and pay people $20 - $50 when they DO vote. That way you might not even need compulsory voting.

Make election day a public holiday by all means. We hold elections on a Saturday, but I understand that's not an option for the US.

Knowing America, we need to make it complex, but I think this'll work: initially make voting day a holiday, and after the first general election, keep it as a holiday, but only for the people who voted in the last election. If you're unemployed, you get what you'd earn for a day's work in your previous job, if you've never worked - minimum wage in your state * eight hour day, and employers can write it off of their taxes for giving you that break. If you're retired - day's salary of your last held job.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Well here (AUS) we have compulsory voting and a small fine for not voting. It works quite well, I think because the fine impresses on people that not voting is wrong, rather than fear of the fine itself.

I'd reverse it, and pay people $20 - $50 when they DO vote. That way you might not even need compulsory voting.

Make election day a public holiday by all means. We hold elections on a Saturday, but I understand that's not an option for the US.

Knowing America, we need to make it complex, but I think this'll work: initially make voting day a holiday, and after the first general election, keep it as a holiday, but only for the people who voted in the last election. If you're unemployed, you get what you'd earn for a day's work in your previous job, if you've never worked - minimum wage in your state * eight hour day, and employers can write it off of their taxes for giving you that break. If you're retired - day's salary of your last held job.

A paid holiday for voting (last time?) is more incentive than I was thinking of, but why not? Paid public holidays are a good idea in their own right.

[San Lumen]

…No, it says you’re a reactionary who doesn’t understand the very things you support.

...No, it says you don't understand what other people support.

The fact that you think the Briggs initiative should have passed is exactly why we need more diversity in our government. Things like that referendum are what led to lgbt people running for office.

[Stellar Colonies]

We definitely should make voting day a holiday.

But we won't because that makes it easier for lower-class workers to vote.

[Fortisinunum]

Personally I do not see this as a problem, so long as they are leading well. Class is a more dividing factor anyway.

[La Xinga]

...No, it says you don't understand what other people support.

The fact that you think the Briggs initiative should have passed is exactly why we need more diversity in our government. Things like that referendum are what led to lgbt people running for office.

1. No, how does it?
2. And?

[Auristania]

i am so surprised. Next thing, they will be telling us that Bears are Catholic and popes poop in the woods.

[San Lumen]

The fact that you think the Briggs initiative should have passed is exactly why we need more diversity in our government. Things like that referendum are what led to lgbt people running for office.

1. No, how does it?
2. And?

Its because of people like you that we have LGBT people serving in government and why the community has equal rights today.

[Atheris]

Ooh. Shocker. The largest group in the America has the most people in American legislation. Wow. I totally didn't see this coming. And on such a big topic, too! This will surely change the fate of America forever! Wow! I can't believe this!

[Aureumterra]

I love how this thread, about an extremely trivial matter has been going for more than 20 pages

[Dollystana]

Ooh. Shocker. The largest group in the America has the most people in American legislation. Wow. I totally didn't see this coming. And on such a big topic, too! This will surely change the fate of America forever! Wow! I can't believe this!

Yeah but men are 70 percent