Study finds State Legislatures Dominated By white Men

[No State Here]

This is exactly how I like it, most legislatures being majority White. This (unfortunately from my perspective) doesn't correlate to laws that'll better protect a White majority and ensure that the country won't become diverse. I'd expect that it won't be the case for forever. In more diverse states the legislature will become more diverse overtime. But in states like Maine, that has a better chance of remaining predominately White indefinitely if it remains a mostly White state.

Class is ultimately more important in terms of who gets into government beyond the most local level than race is. If you have money or donors, you can get into elected office. If you don't, you can't for the most part; unless your campaign and platform really is so brilliant and popular.

FFS dude…

[San Lumen]

This is exactly how I like it, most legislatures being majority White. This (unfortunately from my perspective) doesn't correlate to laws that'll better protect a White majority and ensure that the country won't become diverse. I'd expect that it won't be the case for forever. In more diverse states the legislature will become more diverse overtime. But in states like Maine, that has a better chance of remaining predominately White indefinitely if it remains a mostly White state.

Class is ultimately more important in terms of who gets into government beyond the most local level than race is. If you have money or donors, you can get into elected office. If you don't, you can't for the most part; unless your campaign and platform really is so brilliant and popular.

I know how awful if someone non white gets elected. Maine has elected non white legislators before. What laws do you want? Why should it matter if there is a white majority? There is nothing special about being white

[Stellar Colonies]

This is exactly how I like it, most legislatures being majority White. This (unfortunately from my perspective) doesn't correlate to laws that'll better protect a White majority and ensure that the country won't become diverse. I'd expect that it won't be the case for forever. In more diverse states the legislature will become more diverse overtime. But in states like Maine, that has a better chance of remaining predominately White indefinitely if it remains a mostly White state.

Class is ultimately more important in terms of who gets into government beyond the most local level than race is. If you have money or donors, you can get into elected office. If you don't, you can't for the most part; unless your campaign and platform really is so brilliant and popular.

Yes, class is a more important factor in how successful someone is as a politician. I can agree with you on that.

But the rest of the post...just...???

[Nuroblav]

This is exactly how I like it, most legislatures being majority White. This (unfortunately from my perspective) doesn't correlate to laws that'll better protect a White majority and ensure that the country won't become diverse. I'd expect that it won't be the case for forever. In more diverse states the legislature will become more diverse overtime. But in states like Maine, that has a better chance of remaining predominately White indefinitely if it remains a mostly White state.

Class is ultimately more important in terms of who gets into government beyond the most local level than race is. If you have money or donors, you can get into elected office. If you don't, you can't for the most part; unless your campaign and platform really is so brilliant and popular.

From my perspective, I don't see an area being diverse as a problem. Someone happens to be different? From a different country, different sex, different skin colour? Who cares?

While I do agree that class unfortunately comes down as a more sought after factor in politics, there's no need the way I see it to go after keeping a majority of people being of a given colour.

???

Given their views, their post doesn't particularly surprise me...

[San Lumen]

This is exactly how I like it, most legislatures being majority White. This (unfortunately from my perspective) doesn't correlate to laws that'll better protect a White majority and ensure that the country won't become diverse. I'd expect that it won't be the case for forever. In more diverse states the legislature will become more diverse overtime. But in states like Maine, that has a better chance of remaining predominately White indefinitely if it remains a mostly White state.

Class is ultimately more important in terms of who gets into government beyond the most local level than race is. If you have money or donors, you can get into elected office. If you don't, you can't for the most part; unless your campaign and platform really is so brilliant and popular.

From my perspective, I don't see an area being diverse as a problem. Someone happens to be different? From a different country, different sex, different skin colour? Who cares?

While I do agree that class unfortunately comes down as a more sought after factor in politics, there's no need the way I see it to go after keeping a majority of people being of a given colour.

???

Given their views, their post doesn't particularly surprise me...

I agree it shouldn’t matter and the whole notion of white supremacy and wanting to preserve a white majority baffles me. What difference does it make?

[Elwher]

So what already happens? How would that change the racial makeup of your party's representatives necessarily?

Not all states have closed primaries.What you could do is recruit more women and people of color to run. It’s still up to the electorate to decide who they want in the primary

If one believe, as I do, that the purpose of a primary election is to determine who a party wants to represent them in the general election than it makes no sense for people not in that party to be allowed to participate. Should people not in a union be allowed to vote on who can run for the union's president?

[San Lumen]

Not all states have closed primaries.What you could do is recruit more women and people of color to run. It’s still up to the electorate to decide who they want in the primary

If one believe, as I do, that the purpose of a primary election is to determine who a party wants to represent them in the general election than it makes no sense for people not in that party to be allowed to participate. Should people not in a union be allowed to vote on who can run for the union's president?

No they should not and the same goes for a primary election

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is exactly how I like it, most legislatures being majority White. This (unfortunately from my perspective) doesn't correlate to laws that'll better protect a White majority and ensure that the country won't become diverse. I'd expect that it won't be the case for forever. In more diverse states the legislature will become more diverse overtime. But in states like Maine, that has a better chance of remaining predominately White indefinitely if it remains a mostly White state.

Class is ultimately more important in terms of who gets into government beyond the most local level than race is. If you have money or donors, you can get into elected office. If you don't, you can't for the most part; unless your campaign and platform really is so brilliant and popular.

Nazi gona Nazi how surprising.

[Diarcesia]

Studies also find that the African nations and governments are dominated by black men.
Quite a shock to me too.

This is a spectacularly bad false equivalence.

How is it false?

[Alcala-Cordel]

This is a spectacularly bad false equivalence.

How is it false?

America is not a white nation, it's diverse.

[Aureumterra]

How is it false?

America is not a white nation, it's diverse.

To which the same can be said for most African nations. It’s estimated there are over 120 languages and dialects spoken in Nigeria alone, three of which are major, and numerous ethnolinguistic groups. Diversity isn’t an American thing

[Alcala-Cordel]

America is not a white nation, it's diverse.

To which the same can be said for most African nations. It’s estimated there are over 120 languages and dialects spoken in Nigeria alone, three of which are major, and numerous ethnolinguistic groups. Diversity isn’t an American thing

And they should all be equally represented. The thing is, those countries are mostly black and as such most of their government is.

[Diarcesia]

To which the same can be said for most African nations. It’s estimated there are over 120 languages and dialects spoken in Nigeria alone, three of which are major, and numerous ethnolinguistic groups. Diversity isn’t an American thing

And they should all be equally represented. The thing is, those countries are mostly black and as such most of their government is.

After some thought, the topic becomes a problem only if the white men dominating the legislatures were elected because of gerrymandering and voter suppression/intimidation. Otherwise, if nonwhites or women think this particular white male represents their interests best, why should they be persuaded to vote for someone else?

[San Lumen]

And they should all be equally represented. The thing is, those countries are mostly black and as such most of their government is.

After some thought, the topic becomes a problem only if the white men dominating the legislatures were elected because of gerrymandering and voter suppression/intimidation. Otherwise, if nonwhites or women think this particular white male represents their interests best, why should they be persuaded to vote for someone else?

If they were chosen in the primary so be it. Gerrymandering is significant issue though. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan would have a more diverse legislature if it wasn't;t for gerrymandering

[Chessmistress]

To which the same can be said for most African nations. It’s estimated there are over 120 languages and dialects spoken in Nigeria alone, three of which are major, and numerous ethnolinguistic groups. Diversity isn’t an American thing

And they should all be equally represented. The thing is, those countries are mostly black and as such most of their government is.

Nigeria isn't "mostly black": Nigeria is 99.9% black and they have 99.9% politicians who are black.
Still, most of their ethnolinguistic groups are underrepresented, while some are overrepresented.
So, in their case, talking about "black / not black" it's just a form of ignorance, very gross.

[Dolgo]

Because whiteness is by it's very nature, in fact, violence, white men in positions of power by default represent an oppressive occupying force, even ones who claim to be Allies. And because these white men live in a system where even if they are no longer in politics, their whiteness still oppresses people by virtue of them taking up the physical and mental spaces of People of Color whenever they make their presence known in public. And because they are oppressing people stolen land, all of their earned and inherited wealth is stolen too.

Therefore, the only solution that would be a first step towards justice is not only for any white male to resign from any position of authority he has, but also to relinquish his property to People Color and then promptly kill himself.

If you are a white male and do not take this affirmative stance towards justice, your silence will be viewed as consent with this oppressive system and you will be considered hostile.

/s

Excellent satire of sociology.

The true absurd horror of it all is that if this were posted in the press, it would get mainstream praise and be trending on Twitter.

Reminds me of that one teacher whose name I can't remember... He got asked to leave the premises of an academic institution on its "no white people on campus day." He disagreed and called it racist. Then they hounded him as a racist for not complying with a day of "symbolic" racial segregation.

We live in a society clown world.

[The Two Jerseys]

Excellent satire of sociology.

The true absurd horror of it all is that if this were posted in the press, it would get mainstream praise and be trending on Twitter.

Reminds me of that one teacher whose name I can't remember... He got asked to leave the premises of an academic institution on its "no white people on campus day." He disagreed and called it racist. Then they hounded him as a racist for not complying with a day of "symbolic" racial segregation.

We live in a society clown world.

Did that really happen? Because I can't see their lawyers giving that an OK...

[Dolgo]

The true absurd horror of it all is that if this were posted in the press, it would get mainstream praise and be trending on Twitter.

Reminds me of that one teacher whose name I can't remember... He got asked to leave the premises of an academic institution on its "no white people on campus day." He disagreed and called it racist. Then they hounded him as a racist for not complying with a day of "symbolic" racial segregation.

We live in a society clown world.

Did that really happen? Because I can't see their lawyers giving that an OK...

Yes. Bret Weinstein was the target. Location was Evergreen State College. They have since received a lot less enrolments and the college has had to cut its budget as a result.

The silver-lining there is that public resistance to Clown–Worldism still exists.

[Alcala-Cordel]

And they should all be equally represented. The thing is, those countries are mostly black and as such most of their government is.

Nigeria isn't "mostly black": Nigeria is 99.9% black and they have 99.9% politicians who are black.
Still, most of their ethnolinguistic groups are underrepresented, while some are overrepresented.
So, in their case, talking about "black / not black" it's just a form of ignorance, very gross.

It can't be not mostly black and almost entirely black at the same time. I also did say earlier that not all black people have the same culture and they should all have equal representation.

Someone else can argue about racial representation with this TER"F" in my place if they want, I'm already in 2 debates at the moment and I don't need a third.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Me, I'd start with my party. Before anyone can get into government, they have to win a primary election where the voters are mostly members of my party. I'd start with my party.

So you're telling me that you'd determine who represents you party primarily through what, race?

You're tone suggests you're against it from the start. Don't be.
Republicans don't have to do anything different.
"My" party by international allegiance is the Democrats.
You can keep selecting "on merit" or whatever.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Nigeria isn't "mostly black": Nigeria is 99.9% black and they have 99.9% politicians who are black.
Still, most of their ethnolinguistic groups are underrepresented, while some are overrepresented.
So, in their case, talking about "black / not black" it's just a form of ignorance, very gross.

It can't be not mostly black and almost entirely black at the same time. I also did say earlier that not all black people have the same culture and they should all have equal representation.

Someone else can argue about racial representation with this TER"F" in my place if they want, I'm already in 2 debates at the moment and I don't need a third.

"Mostly black" isn't the same as "overwhelmingly black".
The difference in this case is that 49% of the population (a limit of "mostly") being unrepresented would be bad.
0.1% of the population being unrepresented would be a lot less bad. Like worrying that West Papuan Americans aren't represented.

CM's point that ethnicity isn't always black and white is well taken. Not just Nigeria but most African countries.

[Alcala-Cordel]

It can't be not mostly black and almost entirely black at the same time. I also did say earlier that not all black people have the same culture and they should all have equal representation.

Someone else can argue about racial representation with this TER"F" in my place if they want, I'm already in 2 debates at the moment and I don't need a third.

"Mostly black" isn't the same as "overwhelmingly black".
The difference in this case is that 49% of the population (a limit of "mostly") being unrepresented would be bad.
0.1% of the population being unrepresented would be a lot less bad. Like worrying that West Papuan Americans aren't represented.

CM's point that ethnicity isn't always black and white is well taken. Not just Nigeria but most African countries.

It seems like we're all misunderstanding each other's arguments then. I don't disagree with any of that.

[Mandicoria]

B-bro how about instead of a bunch of old white men that vote for warcrimes, we make it old white WOMEN that vote for warcrimes!!!!!


ah apologies read it as legislatures in general, ahem.

w-what if we replaced all the oppressive legislative members with women and the occassional token minority that'll do the same thing!!!

[Alcala-Cordel]

B-bro how about instead of a bunch of old white men that vote for warcrimes, we make it old white WOMEN that vote for warcrimes!!!!!

I for one agree with your sentiment. A diverse group of bad people might make them look less racist or sexist, but bad people are bad people regardless of gender or race and that's not worth celebrating.

[Mandicoria]

B-bro how about instead of a bunch of old white men that vote for warcrimes, we make it old white WOMEN that vote for warcrimes!!!!!

I for one agree with your sentiment. A diverse group of bad people might make them look less racist or sexist, but bad people are bad people regardless of gender or race and that's not worth celebrating.

Aye, I'm genuinely getting sick of this neoliberal shitfuckery on "we need to diversify our governments!!!!". When all it's going to accomplish is a rainbow of different people continuing the oppression of the people in the US and other countries. Nothing wrong with diversity as a concept obviously, it's the fact you have people actually thinking diversifying an oppressive system is suddenly going to make everything better.