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Diarcesia wrote:This gets better. If BLMers are terrorists, what about the Boogaloo Boys? Yes. This is valid whataboutism.

When I think of the word "terrorism", it comes with a lot of explosions in civilian areas, such as blowing up a market or 9/11. Burning dumpsters, wrecking cars, assaulting people, etc. while terrible and should be prosecuted, does not qualify for terrorism. BLM needs to do something bigger like the Oklahoma bombing to reach the terrorist status.

let's be honest

it most likely is

No, but the Klan is.

/Thread.

Organized States wrote:No, but the Klan is.

/Thread.

This is not Forum 7.

Really?

Even ignoring that BLM isn't really an organization per se, how the fuck is an organization that advocates for an equality a terrorist group? This reeks of fascism.

Picairn wrote:

Organized States wrote:No, but the Klan is.

/Thread.

This is not Forum 7.

...?

Stylan wrote:Really?

Even ignoring that BLM isn't really an organization per se, how the fuck is an organization that advocates for an equality a terrorist group? This reeks of fascism.

well we got to page 3 before someone erroneously used the word fascism

Atheris wrote:...?

I routinely see this kind of code (/thread, /skip, etc.) in Forum 7.

Picairn wrote:

Organized States wrote:No, but the Klan is.

/Thread.

This is not Forum 7.

No. But this has been debated over and over. And no one has come up with any plausible evidence for it to be labeled a Domestic Terrorist Organization.


So, this whole thread is moot, and should never have happened.

Picairn wrote:

Organized States wrote:No, but the Klan is.

/Thread.

This is not Forum 7.

I mean, this is the literal answer to their question. Is Black Lives Matter a terrorist group? No, they're a disorganized and non-centralized group of largely peaceful protesters (approximately 15 to 26 million of your fellow citizens to be exact), who have engaged in a concerted, direct action protest movement to call attention to the history of both systematic racism in the United States and the current social order that has resulted from that history, which is enforced by police departments across the country.

The Ku Klux Klan, on the other hand, is an organized group that has carried out violence and intimidation against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Shazbotdom wrote:No. But this has been debated over and over. And no one has come up with any plausible evidence for it to be labeled a Domestic Terrorist Organization.


So, this whole thread is moot, and should never have happened.

Agree, the mods should have locked this when neither the OP nor supporters of labeling BLM a terrorist organization have provided proof for their claims.

They’re Marxists who destroy history and property, blatantly disregarding the law in the same backwards, counterproductive acts of revolution far-left ideology always touts. Like Antifa before them, they’ve taken a glorious cause and perverted it for their own personal ideals, setting relations and peace back, earning nothing but my contempt. There are diplomatic methods of communication. There are legal methods of communication. There are peaceful methods of communication. I can no longer trust my fellow statesmen in the way I formerly did, and may BLM burn in the fires of its own revolution.

That said, even if I think they should (which I do), I personally don’t have the evidence or lack of bias to objectively prove it. I also wouldn’t want the innocent peaceful protesters stripped of their rights just for associating with them. So for now no, I won’t say they’re terrorists, because all are innocent until proven guilty, and I’ve no easy way to ciminalize them without infringing upon the rights I hold dear.
Every life matters, may you all live in safety, and God save us all.

Picairn wrote:

Shazbotdom wrote:No. But this has been debated over and over. And no one has come up with any plausible evidence for it to be labeled a Domestic Terrorist Organization.


So, this whole thread is moot, and should never have happened.

Agree, the mods should have locked this when neither the OP nor supporters of labeling BLM a terrorist organization have provided proof for their claims.

Not to mention that the OP is a hit and run.

Kashimura wrote:They’re Marxists who destroy history and property, blatantly disregarding the law in the same backwards, counterproductive acts of revolution far-left ideology always touts. Like Antifa before them, they’ve taken a glorious cause and perverted it for their own personal ideals, setting relations and peace back, earning nothing but my contempt. There are diplomatic methods of communication. There are legal methods of communication. There are peaceful methods of communication. I can no longer trust my fellow statesmen in the way I formerly did, and may BLM burn in the fires of its own revolution.

That said, even if I think they should (which I do), I personally don’t have the evidence or lack of bias to objectively prove it. I also wouldn’t want the innocent peaceful protesters stripped of their rights just for associating with them. So for now no, I won’t say they’re terrorists, because all are innocent until proven guilty, and I’ve no easy way to ciminalize them without infringing upon the rights I hold dear.
Every life matters, may you all live in safety, and God save us all.

Every life matters, take a shot!
Marxists, take a shot!
Antifa, take a shot!

Bro, I'm on my third shot at this point from this one post. Come up with some better Fox News talking points.

Kashimura wrote:They’re Marxists who destroy history and property, blatantly disregarding the law in the same backwards, counterproductive acts of revolution far-left ideology always touts. Like Antifa before them, they’ve taken a glorious cause and perverted it for their own personal ideals, setting relations and peace back, earning nothing but my contempt. There are diplomatic methods of communication. There are legal methods of communication. There are peaceful methods of communication. I can no longer trust my fellow statesmen in the way I formerly did, and may BLM burn in the fires of its own revolution.

That said, even if I think they should (which I do), I personally don’t have the evidence or lack of bias to objectively prove it. I also wouldn’t want the innocent peaceful protesters stripped of their rights just for associating with them. So for now no, I won’t say they’re terrorists, because all are innocent until proven guilty, and I’ve no easy way to ciminalize them without infringing upon the rights I hold dear.
Every life matters, may you all live in safety, and God save us all.

How are they Marxists? Do they openly advocate for Marxist principles? I have not seen the official BLM page mention that ever.

Stylan wrote:

Kashimura wrote:They’re Marxists who destroy history and property, blatantly disregarding the law in the same backwards, counterproductive acts of revolution far-left ideology always touts. Like Antifa before them, they’ve taken a glorious cause and perverted it for their own personal ideals, setting relations and peace back, earning nothing but my contempt. There are diplomatic methods of communication. There are legal methods of communication. There are peaceful methods of communication. I can no longer trust my fellow statesmen in the way I formerly did, and may BLM burn in the fires of its own revolution.

That said, even if I think they should (which I do), I personally don’t have the evidence or lack of bias to objectively prove it. I also wouldn’t want the innocent peaceful protesters stripped of their rights just for associating with them. So for now no, I won’t say they’re terrorists, because all are innocent until proven guilty, and I’ve no easy way to ciminalize them without infringing upon the rights I hold dear.
Every life matters, may you all live in safety, and God save us all.

How are they Marxists? Do they openly advocate for Marxist principles? I have not seen the official BLM page mention that ever.

It's the classic, "every political position I don't like is Communism" fallacy.

Shazbotdom wrote:Not to mention that the OP is a hit and run.

Bait will always be bait.

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Catsfern wrote:

Stylan wrote:Really?

Even ignoring that BLM isn't really an organization per se, how the fuck is an organization that advocates for an equality a terrorist group? This reeks of fascism.

well we got to page 3 before someone erroneously used the word fascism

I mean, when people get all fussed about the activity of anti-fascist groups, their motives do become somewhat suspect.

USALO wrote:((((""""Y.E.S.""""))))>>>>!!!!

Evidence to back up your "yes"?

Post War America wrote:

Catsfern wrote:
well we got to page 3 before someone erroneously used the word fascism

I mean, when people get all fussed about the activity of anti-fascist groups, their motives do become somewhat suspect.

oh please the "fascism" that Antifa is fighting against doesn't even begin to actually fit in with what fascism actually is.

Post War America wrote:Ask me again, when BLM activists perform a lynching, claim to have done it in the name of BLM, and not have it be disavowed by other groups within the movement. Then maybe we can talk about them getting that label.

Or when their an actual organized group planning and carrying out attacks instead of an unorganized social movement.

Andsed wrote:

Post War America wrote:Ask me again, when BLM activists perform a lynching, claim to have done it in the name of BLM, and not have it be disavowed by other groups within the movement. Then maybe we can talk about them getting that label.

Or when their an actual organized group planning and carrying out attacks instead of an unorganized social movement.

Like the Klan?

Thank you, that is the last time I will mention the Klan tonight.

Catsfern wrote:

Post War America wrote:
I mean, when people get all fussed about the activity of anti-fascist groups, their motives do become somewhat suspect.

oh please the "fascism" that Antifa is fighting against doesn't even begin to actually fit in with what fascism actually is.

Sure, if you confine Fascism to a very limited definition operated under a limited list of states in the 20th century. A certain form of nationalist thought, that seeks to return to the past, and seeks out the rolling back of rights for minorities has swept the western world in recent times, and you know what they say about things that walk and quack like ducks.

People should stop replying to this thread and let it die. The OP is entirely absent from the discussion, while supporters of labeling BLM a terrorist organization have run away after making inflammatory statements. It is apparent to me that they are here to rile people up and troll, not to create an honest debate.