Should Black Lives Matter be considered a terrorist group?

[Punished UMN]

Politics is the process of collective decision-making by the state. The state is the body of society which exercises violence on behalf of government. You may not like it, but all political decision-making requires either actual violence or the threat of violence.

Renaming Post Offices?

Not really politics in the sense of political philosophy, but that's a good one lol

[Intrepidica]

Well, let me just say that the United States of America is a terrorist organization by many of the standards in the United States. The definition is intentionally rather vague, for the benefit of the governing bodies.
The idea that extremely decentralized groups like antifa and blm are terrorists not only misses their aims, but also their structure.
As an example: I'm a male with blonde hair and blue eyes, a lot of other males with those features did really bad things, am I suddenly guilty of their crimes? (spurious example, but i believe the point is communicated.
Further, if one looks at what the blm claims to stand for, in no way do they advocate terror, or terrorist actions. I would need to see that the little central authority in the blm movement that exists to advocate for terrorist activities before I would even think to label them as terrorists.
Finally, the damage that is caused is nominally meant to improve the welfare of minorities Indirectly (violence is the language of the oppressed), not instill fear in the common populace.

[Picairn]

Politics is the process of collective decision-making by the state. The state is the body of society which exercises violence on behalf of government. You may not like it, but all political decision-making requires either actual violence or the threat of violence.

Well I agree that the government carries out decisions with the threat of violence (aka The Big Stick) as enforcement, but politics isn't always violent. If that's the case we would have witnessed a breakdown of society and government due to constant violence.

[Punished UMN]

Politics is the process of collective decision-making by the state. The state is the body of society which exercises violence on behalf of government. You may not like it, but all political decision-making requires either actual violence or the threat of violence.

Well I agree that the government carries out decisions with the threat of violence (aka The Big Stick) as enforcement, but politics isn't always violent. If that's the case we would have witnessed a breakdown of society and government due to constant violence.

That people acquiesce to violence without incident doesn't mean the violence isn't inherent to the system. Start disobeying laws and you will find out just how violent political decisions are.

[Picairn]

Well, let me just say that the United States of America is a terrorist organization by many of the standards in the United States. The definition is intentionally rather vague, for the benefit of the governing bodies.
The idea that extremely decentralized groups like antifa and blm are terrorists not only misses their aims, but also their structure.
As an example: I'm a male with blonde hair and blue eyes, a lot of other males with those features did really bad things, am I suddenly guilty of their crimes? (spurious example, but i believe the point is communicated.
Further, if one looks at what the blm claims to stand for, in no way do they advocate terror, or terrorist actions. I would need to see that the little central authority in the blm movement that exists to advocate for terrorist activities before I would even think to label them as terrorists.
Finally, the damage that is caused is nominally meant to improve the welfare of minorities Indirectly (violence is the language of the oppressed), not instill fear in the common populace.

If the US is a terrorist organization, so do other nations that conduct invasions or territoral incursions into neighboring countries.

[-Astoria-]

It was covered in litter, all the buildings were run down, the statues were vandalized and cordoned off with police tape, the beaches were covered in trash, there was a homeless person every half a block, it felt entirely unsafe, the hotel was bad, and the traffic was horrendous.

The only redeeming quality about my passing through there was the food. I had Cajun and Italian, and they were both absolutely fantastic.

There......are no beaches in New Orleans.

Is that a bad thing?

[Nuroblav]

This:

Well, let me just say that the United States of America is a terrorist organization by many of the standards in the United States. The definition is intentionally rather vague, for the benefit of the governing bodies.
The idea that extremely decentralized groups like antifa and blm are terrorists not only misses their aims, but also their structure.
As an example: I'm a male with blonde hair and blue eyes, a lot of other males with those features did really bad things, am I suddenly guilty of their crimes? (spurious example, but i believe the point is communicated.
Further, if one looks at what the blm claims to stand for, in no way do they advocate terror, or terrorist actions. I would need to see that the little central authority in the blm movement that exists to advocate for terrorist activities before I would even think to label them as terrorists.
Finally, the damage that is caused is nominally meant to improve the welfare of minorities Indirectly (violence is the language of the oppressed), not instill fear in the common populace.

Here's what they do support, for interest.

[Nuroblav]

[redacted (accidentally made post twice )]

[The Huskar Social Union]

Disagree with that.

[Gravlen]

A domestic terrorist organization is defined by the FBI as:

"Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature." -Copied directly from FBI website

Man, you couldn't even get the first line of your OP right. That's not the FBI definition of a domestic terrorist organization, but simply what domestic terrorism is.

Further, the US government has no legal authority to label a domestic group a terrorist organization in the manner it designates foreign terrorist organizations, so your question is pointless.

[Thermodolia]

It was covered in litter, all the buildings were run down, the statues were vandalized and cordoned off with police tape, the beaches were covered in trash, there was a homeless person every half a block, it felt entirely unsafe, the hotel was bad, and the traffic was horrendous.

The only redeeming quality about my passing through there was the food. I had Cajun and Italian, and they were both absolutely fantastic.

There......are no beaches in New Orleans.

Maybe they mean the river bank?

[KingFerdinand1]

Yes, There Movement Has Caused Unnecessary Deaths.

[The Reformed American Republic]

So no evidence then?

I'm not your search engine. Find it yourself or don't continue the conversation.

Many within are Marxist loons, but I think "terrorism" requires more than some skirmishes and statue teardowns. I have no love for BLM but terrorism is not a label that is taken lightly.

They've certainly done enough in the US and UK to warrant it, it takes merely a search on bing to see it.

You should link to them to prove your point.

[Pasong Tirad]

Yeah, no.

[Rojava Free State]

Well, let me just say that the United States of America is a terrorist organization by many of the standards in the United States. The definition is intentionally rather vague, for the benefit of the governing bodies.
The idea that extremely decentralized groups like antifa and blm are terrorists not only misses their aims, but also their structure.
As an example: I'm a male with blonde hair and blue eyes, a lot of other males with those features did really bad things, am I suddenly guilty of their crimes? (spurious example, but i believe the point is communicated.
Further, if one looks at what the blm claims to stand for, in no way do they advocate terror, or terrorist actions. I would need to see that the little central authority in the blm movement that exists to advocate for terrorist activities before I would even think to label them as terrorists.
Finally, the damage that is caused is nominally meant to improve the welfare of minorities Indirectly (violence is the language of the oppressed), not instill fear in the common populace.

According to Nick Cannon you are guilty as hell. He just said yesterday or the day before that whites are savages and anti black by blood, and blacks are the real Jews.

Uh oh retard alert Retard alert.

[Free Federal States]

Yes, There Movement Has Caused Unnecessary Deaths.

Racism has caused far more unnecessary deaths...
The George Floyd protests have caused 28 deaths in 3 months, several of which were killings by right-wing anti-BLM groups. The Police killed on average 3 people a day in 2019, and killings of minorities were disproportionate to their percentage of the population. That’s an average of 273.75 deaths from cops in the same amount of time as the George Floyd protests. And don’t forget all the whacko terrorists who shoot up churches, synagogues, schools, and stores fueled by racist ideologies.

[Rojava Free State]

There......are no beaches in New Orleans.

Maybe they mean the river bank?

In a bad neighborhood in New Orleans, the beach usually means the steep concrete sides of a canal.

[Andsed]

Yes, There Movement Has Caused Unnecessary Deaths.

That does not mean the BLM can be classified as terrorists. People here really need to learn what classifies a group as terrorists and stop using it to describe any movement they don´t like or got a bit violent. This line of thinking and dismissing entire social movements as terrorist is just dumb.

[Picairn]

As I have stated earlier in this thread, BLM needs to do something drastic on the same level with the Oklahoma City bombing, which was committed by two right-wing extremists, to qualify for the terrorist designation.

[Rojava Free State]

Yes, There Movement Has Caused Unnecessary Deaths.

That does not mean the BLM can be classified as terrorists. People here really need to learn what classifies a group as terrorists and stop using it to describe any movement they don´t like or got a bit violent. This line of thinking and dismissing entire social movements as terrorist is just dumb.

Sounds like what our government does whenever a movement hits where it hurts.

[Rojava Free State]

As I have stated earlier in this thread, BLM needs to do something drastic on the same level with the Oklahoma City bombing, which was committed by two right-wing extremists, to qualify for the terrorist designation.

I think it's funny how Americans have suffered actual terror attacks repeatedly and yet we still count antifa as terrorists. Some rando losers who live in mom's basement and throw water balloons full of piss are terrorists? Gtfo out here. They're pretty pathetic terrorists.

[Engales and Southern Ireland]

People should stop replying to this thread and let it die. The OP is entirely absent from the discussion, while supporters of labeling BLM a terrorist organization have run away after making inflammatory statements. It is apparent to me that they are here to rile people up and troll, not to create an honest debate.

black lives matter
Has caused riots✅
Brainwashed people into wanting to get rid of the police✅
Is secretly communist✅
Ignores racism against other races✅
Dosen’t encourage people to stop rioting✅


In all sense there terrorist and traitors to the USA and the world

[Rojava Free State]

People should stop replying to this thread and let it die. The OP is entirely absent from the discussion, while supporters of labeling BLM a terrorist organization have run away after making inflammatory statements. It is apparent to me that they are here to rile people up and troll, not to create an honest debate.

black lives matter
Has caused riots✅
Brainwashed people into wanting to get rid of the police✅
Is secretly communist✅
Ignores racism against other races✅
Dosen’t encourage people to stop rioting✅


In all sense there terrorist and traitors to the USA and the world

Black Lives Matter:

Has been mostly peaceful protests.
Pointed out how fucked up the police are and why it must change.
Some are communist.
Most of the protesters in the movement are white.
Has called for peaceful demonstration.

Btw why do you think these riots are happening? Cause the evil boogeyman BLM told them to do it or cause people are sick and tired of police extrajudically executing people on the street and being able to get away with it? Youre ignoring a long history of violence because "oh no Dunham sporting goods burned down." You know what upsets me more than Dunham burning down? The fact the cops who killed Elijah McClain never went to jail.

This aint even just a hot take.

[Anurial]

No, they shouldn't.

Some randos being a bit too violent at a rally isn't grounds for terrorism, and the Right's obsession with labelling protest groups wanting rights as terrorists is harmful to the process of identifying terrorist groups as well as the fight for equal rights. It's an excellent example of white privilege actually, where a group actively fighting to establish an Islamic Caliphate whilst killing tens of thousands and committing terrorist attacks across the West can be equated to a large organisation fighting to establish equal rights and simply being an inconvenience to the comfort of some suburban whites. In fact, this is textbook, where Daesh barely impacts the whites living in the US (at least as a group), mostly serving as a headline, whereas BLM might cause some traffic or hurt some feelings and the latter is apparently just as bad since it's not physically possible for these suburban whites to consider there is a part of the world that doesn't include them.

[Picairn]

black lives matter
Has caused riots✅
Brainwashed people into wanting to get rid of the police✅
Is secretly communist✅
Ignores racism against other races✅
Dosen’t encourage people to stop rioting✅


In all sense there terrorist and traitors to the USA and the world

Reiteration of my very first post in this thread:

Provide credible evidence for your serious allegations with news articles within the green zone of this chart, before I can make a judgement on their actions.

And even if what you claimed is true, none of those actions qualifies for a terrorist designation.