Bezos' Newspaper WaPo Doxxxed Innocent Partygoer

[Vassenor]

I find it interesting that of all the things y'all could have gone for over the years, this is the one that makes you scream about enemies of the people and how the free press needs to die.

just call them racist lmao

Why?

[Prosa]

So you believe that the government should be able to control what news the people see? Yeah, that’s definitely always ended well.

That seems to be the same kind of response we see from anarcho-capitalists on the economy, and it's silly for the same reasons.

There's a difference between the government banning some things, and outright controlling everything. Saying "You can't dump crude oil into the sea" isn't the same as "The government will now own, manage, and control all oil production.". Similarly, regulating the press and punishing them when they break the law is not the same as a state controlled press, or the government controlling everything you see.

The question of how much regulation is desirable is a separate question, but this experiment of "None at all" has produced clearly negative and destructive results.

First of all, I’m not an ancap—just an anarchist.
Second, who exactly do you believe should “regulate” the press? The government? Local authorities? Corporate owners?

[Esotyrica]

just call them racist lmao

Why?

isn't that what you're implying or something

why is it interesting

[Esotyrica]

That seems to be the same kind of response we see from anarcho-capitalists on the economy, and it's silly for the same reasons.

There's a difference between the government banning some things, and outright controlling everything. Saying "You can't dump crude oil into the sea" isn't the same as "The government will now own, manage, and control all oil production.". Similarly, regulating the press and punishing them when they break the law is not the same as a state controlled press, or the government controlling everything you see.

The question of how much regulation is desirable is a separate question, but this experiment of "None at all" has produced clearly negative and destructive results.

First of all, I’m not an ancap—just an anarchist.
Second, who exactly do you believe should “regulate” the press? The government? Local authorities? Corporate owners?

him

[Proctopeo]

Typically shitty actions from a shitty "news" site.

So you believe that the government should be able to control what news the people see? Yeah, that’s definitely always ended well.

That seems to be the same kind of response we see from anarcho-capitalists on the economy, and it's silly for the same reasons.

There's a difference between the government banning some things, and outright controlling everything. Saying "You can't dump crude oil into the sea" isn't the same as "The government will now own, manage, and control all oil production.". Similarly, regulating the press and punishing them when they break the law is not the same as a state controlled press, or the government controlling everything you see.

The question of how much regulation is desirable is a separate question, but this experiment of "None at all" has produced clearly negative and destructive results.

I'm of the mind that Elon Musk's idea from a while back should be put to fruition, specifically the "media credibility rating site" where the people judge articles based on their accuracy and bias, and this aggregates into a score for journalists and websites.

For some reason, journalists did not like this idea.

[Vassenor]

Why?

isn't that what you're implying or something

why is it interesting

Just find it weird that it's this incident rather than (say) anything The Sun has pulled over the years.

[Esotyrica]

Typically shitty actions from a shitty "news" site.

That seems to be the same kind of response we see from anarcho-capitalists on the economy, and it's silly for the same reasons.

There's a difference between the government banning some things, and outright controlling everything. Saying "You can't dump crude oil into the sea" isn't the same as "The government will now own, manage, and control all oil production.". Similarly, regulating the press and punishing them when they break the law is not the same as a state controlled press, or the government controlling everything you see.

The question of how much regulation is desirable is a separate question, but this experiment of "None at all" has produced clearly negative and destructive results.

I'm of the mind that Elon Musk's idea from a while back should be put to fruition, specifically the "media credibility rating site" where the people judge articles based on their accuracy and bias, and this aggregates into a score for journalists and websites.

For some reason, journalists did not like this idea.

itd be cool but people would fuck with the website

[Vassenor]

Typically shitty actions from a shitty "news" site.

That seems to be the same kind of response we see from anarcho-capitalists on the economy, and it's silly for the same reasons.

There's a difference between the government banning some things, and outright controlling everything. Saying "You can't dump crude oil into the sea" isn't the same as "The government will now own, manage, and control all oil production.". Similarly, regulating the press and punishing them when they break the law is not the same as a state controlled press, or the government controlling everything you see.

The question of how much regulation is desirable is a separate question, but this experiment of "None at all" has produced clearly negative and destructive results.

I'm of the mind that Elon Musk's idea from a while back should be put to fruition, specifically the "media credibility rating site" where the people judge articles based on their accuracy and bias, and this aggregates into a score for journalists and websites.

For some reason, journalists did not like this idea.

So Elon is trying to get credit for inventing something that already exists again?

[Prosa]

Typically shitty actions from a shitty "news" site.

That seems to be the same kind of response we see from anarcho-capitalists on the economy, and it's silly for the same reasons.

There's a difference between the government banning some things, and outright controlling everything. Saying "You can't dump crude oil into the sea" isn't the same as "The government will now own, manage, and control all oil production.". Similarly, regulating the press and punishing them when they break the law is not the same as a state controlled press, or the government controlling everything you see.

The question of how much regulation is desirable is a separate question, but this experiment of "None at all" has produced clearly negative and destructive results.

I'm of the mind that Elon Musk's idea from a while back should be put to fruition, specifically the "media credibility rating site" where the people judge articles based on their accuracy and bias, and this aggregates into a score for journalists and websites.

For some reason, journalists did not like this idea.

This could only end in people going after journalists or news sources of an opposing political stance. With this system, it’d be more than easy for someone to frame a truthful article as false just because they don’t agree with the information in it.

[Proctopeo]

Typically shitty actions from a shitty "news" site.


I'm of the mind that Elon Musk's idea from a while back should be put to fruition, specifically the "media credibility rating site" where the people judge articles based on their accuracy and bias, and this aggregates into a score for journalists and websites.

For some reason, journalists did not like this idea.

So Elon is trying to get credit for inventing something that already exists again?

MBFC isn't the same thing, though it's similar.
His idea is a bit closer in concept to RateMyProfessor.

[Xmara]

I don’t care who it is, doxxing people is never okay.

[Aeritai]

I feel like society is starting to be less forgiving as the years progress.

[James_xenoland]

This whole thing is fucked up and perverse beyond words! The worst part is that sadly, this isn't even WaPos (as well as the rest of the psychopathic prog REEEEEEdia's) best most deranged and hate filled work. I mean at least it wasn't a completely innocent minor being setup based solely on outright lies this time. (Nicholas Sandmann says hello) Plus she sounds like a true believer anyway.. reap what you sow.. If you empower deranged ideologue extremists and mental patients to screech endlessly about their delusional victim complexes, support the "refutation" of factual scientific concept in the name of ideology, and generally uncritically buy into the "need" for feels-over-reals type hysterical hyperbole via "lived" subjectivity... To the actual point of totalitarian level close mindedness and thought policing.. It should have been very clear that your own pet monsters might turn around and eat you too one day! So while fucked up.. There is a measure of ironic justice every time an uncritical believer falls on their own nonsense.

[Shofercia]

I find it interesting that of all the things y'all could have gone for over the years, this is the one that makes you scream about enemies of the people and how the free press needs to die.

Something tells me that if a powerful entity, say Fox News, went after an innocent liberal librarian, for no reason whatsoever, you wouldn't be singing that tune here, Vass. The reason that this is a big deal, is because it's symptomatic of Washington Post's sheer depravity, clearly showing what WaPo became.

Also, this isn't "over the years" - it happened recently, so we're discussing it. The "over the years" part is incredibly disingenuous. We will continue to discuss acts of depravity, and we'll have your support when they're against liberals and your opposition when they're against conservatives.

You’re joking, right? There’s no way you’re serious.

But someone fucked up and a white person had problems as a result so the free press is evil and needs to die.

"Has problems" - fucking really Vass? "Has problems" - yeah, no. Her entire life was turned upside down. "Has problems" is what happened to me when my car insurance agent screwed me. Now I need to get car insurance. I got my house, I got my cars, I got my job, and my health insurance. I'll be good.

What happened to her isn't "has problems" - it's setting her up for a life of starvation, misery, depression, etc. She lost her job, and with it, her health insurance, one that she desperately needs. At 54, with that WaPo article, she's not going to be employable for the next two years. What if something happens to her? What if she needs treatment, and being uninsured, she's going to have a massive healthcare bill. What is she actually supported Obamacare, voted blue, but can no longer afford the one she needs without a job? And it shouldn't matter how she voted - she's a human being.

Despite working all her life, she could be on the street, homeless, mentally ill, broke, desperate and destitute. Because of the article. Solely because of the article. This isn't merely "has problems" and how dare you merely dismiss it as "has problems" because she was white? I'll save this post for the next time you're sympathetic about a victim that I have no sympathy for, that work? "has problems" - I should stop typing now, because if I keep going, I'll have problems with moderation...

I'll just say this about WaPo - this is a symptom of how far they've fallen. This is their Anakin Skywalker at the Jedi Temple moment. This is pathetic, a powerful entity picking on a defenseless person. It's simply wrong.

[Rojava Free State]

I feel like society is starting to be less forgiving as the years progress.

Apparently doing something offensive that killed 0 people and injured 0 should be an unforgivable sin according to some.

As i said, they're canceling people for things they said years ago. That's pretty ridiculous.

[Rojava Free State]

If only Trump didn't start with his "enemy of the people" rhetoric. He's giving the media the sense of persecution they need and making them look like valiant heroes. This is similar to the white supremacist issue in the sense that you ought to leave said person alone and let them talk, so then society gets to see how much of a cocksucker they really are.

The news aren't enemies of the people. They're just sociopathic weirdos who love it when something bad or controversial happens, and sometimes they'll even start the controversy (like in this case) so they can get that money. Most mainstream news whether left or right is full of real pathetic losers. I think it's about time they get the respect they deserve, which is none at all.

[Ostroeuropa]

I find it interesting that of all the things y'all could have gone for over the years, this is the one that makes you scream about enemies of the people and how the free press needs to die.

Something tells me that if a powerful entity, say Fox News, went after an innocent liberal librarian, for no reason whatsoever, you wouldn't be singing that tune here, Vass. The reason that this is a big deal, is because it's symptomatic of Washington Post's sheer depravity, clearly showing what WaPo became.

Also, this isn't "over the years" - it happened recently, so we're discussing it. The "over the years" part is incredibly disingenuous. We will continue to discuss acts of depravity, and we'll have your support when they're against liberals and your opposition when they're against conservatives.

But someone fucked up and a white person had problems as a result so the free press is evil and needs to die.

"Has problems" - fucking really Vass? "Has problems" - yeah, no. Her entire life was turned upside down. "Has problems" is what happened to me when my car insurance agent screwed me. Now I need to get car insurance. I got my house, I got my cars, I got my job, and my health insurance. I'll be good.

What happened to her isn't "has problems" - it's setting her up for a life of starvation, misery, depression, etc. She lost her job, and with it, her health insurance, one that she desperately needs. At 54, with that WaPo article, she's not going to be employable for the next two years. What if something happens to her? What if she needs treatment, and being uninsured, she's going to have a massive healthcare bill. What is she actually supported Obamacare, voted blue, but can no longer afford the one she needs without a job? And it shouldn't matter how she voted - she's a human being.

Despite working all her life, she could be on the street, homeless, mentally ill, broke, desperate and destitute. Because of the article. Solely because of the article. This isn't merely "has problems" and how dare you merely dismiss it as "has problems" because she was white? I'll save this post for the next time you're sympathetic about a victim that I have no sympathy for, that work? "has problems" - I should stop typing now, because if I keep going, I'll have problems with moderation...

I'll just say this about WaPo - this is a symptom of how far they've fallen. This is their Anakin Skywalker at the Jedi Temple moment. This is pathetic, a powerful entity picking on a defenseless person. It's simply wrong.

Reminder that the ideology pushed by the media and which Vass has internalized has been scientifically proven to produce a lack of empathy for white people. This kind of dismissive attitude is a consequence of that.

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/articl ... _privilege

[Ostroeuropa]

If only Trump didn't start with his "enemy of the people" rhetoric. He's giving the media the sense of persecution they need and making them look like valiant heroes. This is similar to the white supremacist issue in the sense that you ought to leave said person alone and let them talk, so then society gets to see how much of a cocksucker they really are.

The news aren't enemies of the people. They're just sociopathic weirdos who love it when something bad or controversial happens, and sometimes they'll even start the controversy (like in this case) so they can get that money. Most mainstream news whether left or right is full of real pathetic losers. I think it's about time they get the respect they deserve, which is none at all.

The media was behaving like this long before Trump.

[Greed and Death]

Friendly reminder btw, because this is related to cancel culture, that when you cancel people, they don't just disappear. They still are alive and out there, and I guarantee you that you don't want a society full of angry, bitter, vengeful and jobless people with a feeling of persecution. That's literally a recipe for disaster. I dont think I need to go into detail as to what kinds of things can happen when you basically kick everyone out of work and run them out of town because "at age 12 they gave a banana to a black kid at lunch who was sitting next to them, and while it may have not even been racist and they're 39 now, we're still gonna get them fired from their job and have their kids taken from them."

People who are cancelled tend to vote Republican 95+% of the time. It seems to most certain way to ensure regression of social gains.

[Thermodolia]

I'm challenging the notion there should be such a freedom.

So you believe that the government should be able to control what news the people see? Yeah, that’s definitely always ended well.

He doesn’t but I do.

[Thermodolia]

Enemies of the people.

Yeah, no. Drop the Trumpian bullshit.

Why do we need a free press again?

Because a functioning free press is integral to a functioning democracy. If the system breaks down, like in this case, we need to fix it, not discard it.

Democracy has been shown to be nothing more than a steaming pile of crap that has led the US into oblivion at the hands of capitalist pigs

[Kowani]

WaPo sucks, I thought this was known.

Though I had not heard about this level of…incompetence? Maliciousness?

[Drexel Burnham Lambert]

i like that our "authoritative" and "credible" news sources are owned by avaricious oligarchs

[Shofercia]

Something tells me that if a powerful entity, say Fox News, went after an innocent liberal librarian, for no reason whatsoever, you wouldn't be singing that tune here, Vass. The reason that this is a big deal, is because it's symptomatic of Washington Post's sheer depravity, clearly showing what WaPo became.

Also, this isn't "over the years" - it happened recently, so we're discussing it. The "over the years" part is incredibly disingenuous. We will continue to discuss acts of depravity, and we'll have your support when they're against liberals and your opposition when they're against conservatives.




"Has problems" - fucking really Vass? "Has problems" - yeah, no. Her entire life was turned upside down. "Has problems" is what happened to me when my car insurance agent screwed me. Now I need to get car insurance. I got my house, I got my cars, I got my job, and my health insurance. I'll be good.

What happened to her isn't "has problems" - it's setting her up for a life of starvation, misery, depression, etc. She lost her job, and with it, her health insurance, one that she desperately needs. At 54, with that WaPo article, she's not going to be employable for the next two years. What if something happens to her? What if she needs treatment, and being uninsured, she's going to have a massive healthcare bill. What is she actually supported Obamacare, voted blue, but can no longer afford the one she needs without a job? And it shouldn't matter how she voted - she's a human being.

Despite working all her life, she could be on the street, homeless, mentally ill, broke, desperate and destitute. Because of the article. Solely because of the article. This isn't merely "has problems" and how dare you merely dismiss it as "has problems" because she was white? I'll save this post for the next time you're sympathetic about a victim that I have no sympathy for, that work? "has problems" - I should stop typing now, because if I keep going, I'll have problems with moderation...

I'll just say this about WaPo - this is a symptom of how far they've fallen. This is their Anakin Skywalker at the Jedi Temple moment. This is pathetic, a powerful entity picking on a defenseless person. It's simply wrong.

Reminder that the ideology pushed by the media and which Vass has internalized has been scientifically proven to produce a lack of empathy for white people. This kind of dismissive attitude is a consequence of that.

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/articl ... _privilege

You've been sounding that alarm bell for quite a while, but now I'm starting to believe it. There's a right way to act and a wrong way to act, and you shouldn't treat people differently based on characteristics that people cannot change.

[Intaglio]

I mean, the story seems pointless considering the incident happened years ago and she definitely shouldn't have been fired, but I don't really feel this is some sign of how far WaPo has fallen or whatever claim it is Reason.com is making.

As for the cancel culture some people have mentioned, I definitely agree that people are way too unforgiving; if somebody apologizes for what they did, we should forgive them, so long as they have put aside their past behavior. Not to mention the cancel culture is really nonsensical in some cases.