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Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:38 pm**

Meh, nothing out of the ordinary. The Balkans are corrupt to the bone, and nobody seems to care, so this will probably not lead to anything significant. Just one more (or less) failed state in the region.

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:57 pm**

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:why is Kosovo independent anyway?

Kosovo is Albanian, not Serbian. Kosovo deserves to be either independent or part of Albania.

Only an Albanian or a NATO shill would say such a thing.

Kosovo has always been a province of Serbia. Historically especially.

The only reason why it's supposedly ''Albanian'' as you say, was because the Yugoslav government settled refugees from Albania who were fleeing the mentally psychotic regime of Enver Hoxha.

And for that, the descendants repeated those who provided them safe heaven, by splitting up the province from its mother country to wait for it..................................................

Hopefully, be annexed by Albania in the future as a part of its ''Greater'' Albania project.

The same thing happened in FYROM in 2001.

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:54 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.

Being anti religious and pro gay is good though.

They do suck nonetheless.

I mean, being anti-religious can be bad too. Mixing it into government usually doesn't work, though.

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:29 pm**

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Being anti religious and pro gay is good though.

They do suck nonetheless.

I mean, being anti-religious can be bad too. Mixing it into government usually doesn't work, though.

yes

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:30 pm**

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Being anti religious and pro gay is good though.

They do suck nonetheless.

I mean, being anti-religious can be bad too. Mixing it into government usually doesn't work, though.

Being anti religious is only bad when violence comes into the mix. You can be anti religious while understanding that murdering the faithful is wrong.

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:06 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I mean, being anti-religious can be bad too. Mixing it into government usually doesn't work, though.

Being anti religious is only bad when violence comes into the mix. You can be anti religious while understanding that murdering the faithful is wrong.

That's why I said can be bad. If any of those two options are taken to the extreme, that's the end of it.

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:32 pm**

It's honestly sad when I see Yugos in my area. These poor kids and their parents fled for their lives with nothing but the clothes on their backs and ended up in a strange country overseas, so it's no wonder the crime rate and poverty rate are not good in their communities.

Posted: **Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:08 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:I mean, being anti-religious can be bad too. Mixing it into government usually doesn't work, though.

Being anti religious is only bad when violence comes into the mix. You can be anti religious while understanding that murdering the faithful is wrong.

Likewise, being religious is only bad when violence comes into the mix. There's a difference between a Christian that does charity and a Christian that advocates for the murder of everyone who isn't a Christian.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:50 am**

What?Again?War is coming in the Balkans.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 am**

Highly doubtful of the Civil War as suggested, just mere ongoing protests with the legislation known as "Law on Freedom of Religion or Belief and the Legal Status of Religious Communities". Interestingly, there are articles covered by Balkan Insight on this topic. Best to look at them before coming into erroneous conclusion.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:12 am**

Qassadia wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:Kosovo is Albanian, not Serbian. Kosovo deserves to be either independent or part of Albania.

Only an Albanian or a NATO shill would say such a thing.

Kosovo has always been a province of Serbia. Historically especially.

The only reason why it's supposedly ''Albanian'' as you say, was because the Yugoslav government settled refugees from Albania who were fleeing the mentally psychotic regime of Enver Hoxha.

And for that, the descendants repeated those who provided them safe heaven, by splitting up the province from its mother country to wait for it..................................................

Hopefully, be annexed by Albania in the future as a part of its ''Greater'' Albania project.

The same thing happened in FYROM in 2001.

Albanians and other Muslims were forced to emigrate, mainly with the land reform which struck Albanian landowners in 1919, but also with direct violent measures. In 1935 and 1938 two agreements between the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and Turkey were signed on the expatriation of 240,000 Albanians to Turkey, which was not completed because of the outbreak of World War II.

So how were there 240,000 Albanians who were deported from Kosovo to Turkey in the 1930s? It's fake history to claim the Albanians only settled there to escape Hoxha. In fact, there have been Albanians in Kosovo for a long time, which makes sense considering that Albania is right next to it. Btw Albanians were treated like dog shit by the serbs (kinda like how the serbs treated most non serbs in general because the ethnic tensions in the region are that bad) so you can miss us all with that image of Yugo benevolence. You ought to know as well as I do that there are no benevolent actors in the Balkans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:17 am**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Qassadia wrote:Only an Albanian or a NATO shill would say such a thing.

Kosovo has always been a province of Serbia. Historically especially.

The only reason why it's supposedly ''Albanian'' as you say, was because the Yugoslav government settled refugees from Albania who were fleeing the mentally psychotic regime of Enver Hoxha.

And for that, the descendants repeated those who provided them safe heaven, by splitting up the province from its mother country to wait for it..................................................

Hopefully, be annexed by Albania in the future as a part of its ''Greater'' Albania project.

The same thing happened in FYROM in 2001.

Albanians and other Muslims were forced to emigrate, mainly with the land reform which struck Albanian landowners in 1919, but also with direct violent measures. In 1935 and 1938 two agreements between the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and Turkey were signed on the expatriation of 240,000 Albanians to Turkey, which was not completed because of the outbreak of World War II.

So how were there 240,000 Albanians who were deported from Kosovo to Turkey in the 1930s? It's fake history to claim the Albanians only settled there to escape Hoxha. In fact, there have been Albanians in Kosovo for a long time, which makes sense considering that Albania is right next to it. Btw Albanians were treated like dog shit by the serbs (kinda like how the serbs treated most non serbs in general because the ethnic tensions in the region are that bad) so you can miss us all with that image of Yugo benevolence. You ought to know as well as I do that there are no benevolent actors in the Balkans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo

I would be extremely cautious about using Wikipedia of all places as a source for thorny political issues. Especially ones as thorny and full of propaganda as the Yugoslav collapse and regional ethnic tensions.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:24 am**

Purpelia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:

So how were there 240,000 Albanians who were deported from Kosovo to Turkey in the 1930s? It's fake history to claim the Albanians only settled there to escape Hoxha. In fact, there have been Albanians in Kosovo for a long time, which makes sense considering that Albania is right next to it. Btw Albanians were treated like dog shit by the serbs (kinda like how the serbs treated most non serbs in general because the ethnic tensions in the region are that bad) so you can miss us all with that image of Yugo benevolence. You ought to know as well as I do that there are no benevolent actors in the Balkans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo

I would be extremely cautious about using Wikipedia of all places as a source for thorny political issues. Especially ones as thorny and full of propaganda as the Yugoslav collapse and regional ethnic tensions.

Well I have yet to find anything that says Albanians only appeared in Kosovo when Hoxha became the dictator of Albania. There seems to have been Albanians throughout the Balkans since the middle ages/renaissance.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:27 am**

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If the worst comes to pass and a civil war does occur, what are the chances of restoring either the Prince-Bishopric or Monarchy?

Titograd comes back

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:10 am**

Slavakino wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If the worst comes to pass and a civil war does occur, what are the chances of restoring either the Prince-Bishopric or Monarchy?

Titograd comes back

Well, that's more likely than any of these, but what are the chances for

A. The prince Bishopric coming back.
B. The monarchy coming back.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:29 pm**

Qassadia wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:Kosovo is Albanian, not Serbian. Kosovo deserves to be either independent or part of Albania.

Only an Albanian or a NATO shill would say such a thing.

Kosovo has always been a province of Serbia. Historically especially.

The only reason why it's supposedly ''Albanian'' as you say, was because the Yugoslav government settled refugees from Albania who were fleeing the mentally psychotic regime of Enver Hoxha.

And for that, the descendants repeated those who provided them safe heaven, by splitting up the province from its mother country to wait for it..................................................

Hopefully, be annexed by Albania in the future as a part of its ''Greater'' Albania project.

The same thing happened in FYROM in 2001.

Around 1914, there were three plans when it came to creating Albania's official borders. The following map show the borders including the greater Albania which the provisional Albanian government preferred. See map - https://i.redd.it/1x1kpy0vxwby.png

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:44 pm**

It seems like Yugos never forget war. Even in America two decades later, Albanian gangsters really like their bombs. They bombed the police station in my town many years ago. We're used to gang related shootings but gang related bombings? That's definitely an Albanian or Croatian or Serbian or Bosnian thing here.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:10 pm**

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Titograd comes back

Well, that's more likely than any of these, but what are the chances for

A. The prince Bishopric coming back.
B. The monarchy coming back.

None because "muh democracy"

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:04 am**

Slavakino wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Well, that's more likely than any of these, but what are the chances for

A. The prince Bishopric coming back.
B. The monarchy coming back.

None because "muh democracy"

So all that will happen is that Montenegro will get a new president?

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:19 am**

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Slavakino wrote:None because "muh democracy"

So all that will happen is that Montenegro will get a new president?

Dictator actually.

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:40 am**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:So all that will happen is that Montenegro will get a new president?

Dictator actually.

I was about to say "That doesn't sound like to much of a change" but why a dictator?

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:18 am**

While we hear close to nothing on MNE. from the foreign press on the protests their, in neighboring Serbia, more of the foreign press has been move active in showing what has been happening. In Serbia, they have been having major protests. Some say it has to do with the leadership bad handling of the virus. Others think there is more to it.

See for yourself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g11zSkdLH8

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:28 am**

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Dictator actually.

I was about to say "That doesn't sound like to much of a change" but why a dictator?

Because its the Balkans and there is a lot of corruption and the area (besides Croatia and Slovenia because they are trying to be western) are police states.

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:48 am**

Rio Cana wrote:While we hear close to nothing on MNE. from the foreign press on the protests their, in neighboring Serbia, more of the foreign press has been move active in showing what has been happening. In Serbia, they have been having major protests. Some say it has to do with the leadership bad handling of the virus. Others think there is more to it.

See for yourself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g11zSkdLH8

How did they handle the virus?

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:50 am**

watch yet another savage balkan conflict start a world war

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