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Postby East Blepia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:20 am

Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. Image

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:28 am

Can we just wall off the Balkans and let them Thunderdome it out already?
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:45 am

East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.

I would suggest to the government they compromise now, and don't go deeper down this rabbit hole. People will start developing radical opinions, like:

-Joining Serbia
-Overthrowing the government
-Allying with Russia
-Restoring the Prince-Bishopric
-Restoring the monarchy
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Postby Esotyrica » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am

East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.


happy 15th birthday

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
-Joining Serbia
-Overthrowing the government
-Allying with Russia
-Restoring the Prince-Bishopric
-Restoring the monarchy


just rejoin serbia

why is montenegro even sepearate
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:50 am

Esotyrica wrote:
East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.


happy 15th birthday

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
-Joining Serbia
-Overthrowing the government
-Allying with Russia
-Restoring the Prince-Bishopric
-Restoring the monarchy


just rejoin serbia

why is montenegro even sepearate

The problem is, Montenegro is in NATO, while Serbia and the potential members of the uprising aren't. There is a chance that NATO will be pulled into this civil war.
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Postby Esotyrica » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:52 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Esotyrica wrote:
happy 15th birthday



just rejoin serbia

why is montenegro even sepearate

The problem is, Montenegro is in NATO, while Serbia and the potential members of the uprising aren't. There is a chance that NATO will be pulled into this civil war.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:55 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:The problem is, Montenegro is in NATO, while Serbia and the potential members of the uprising aren't. There is a chance that NATO will be pulled into this civil war.

Only if outside influence can be proven.
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Postby Esotyrica » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:58 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:The problem is, Montenegro is in NATO, while Serbia and the potential members of the uprising aren't. There is a chance that NATO will be pulled into this civil war.

Only if outside influence can be proven.

are you implying NATO wouldn't intervene regardless in a civil war in a NATO nation?
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:21 am

Is Montenegro actually spilling it's way towards civil war or is this the case that it has widespread unrest and protests that countries actually will have quite often? Montenegro looks like it has massive problems it's facing right now but civil war doesn't really seem on the table in that regard.

Esotyrica wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
-Joining Serbia
-Overthrowing the government
-Allying with Russia
-Restoring the Prince-Bishopric
-Restoring the monarchy


just rejoin serbia

why is montenegro even sepearate

Because they're not Serbian? It was one of the Republics that made up Yugoslavia and was it's own country long before that.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:21 am

why is Kosovo independent anyway?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:23 am

East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.


Being anti religious and pro gay is good though.

They do suck nonetheless.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:23 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:why is Kosovo independent anyway?


When Albanians decide to do something, trying to hold them back is like trying to hold back the ocean.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:why is Kosovo independent anyway?


When Albanians decide to do something, trying to hold them back is like trying to hold back the ocean.


they could always join Albania and end that farce of theirs.
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Postby Deltia- » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:31 am

Well, they are in NATO, so a civil war would end in a short time, though insurgencies would continue.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:34 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
When Albanians decide to do something, trying to hold them back is like trying to hold back the ocean.


they could always join Albania and end that farce of theirs.


I mean Kosovo is mostly albanian. Frankly I would have just added it to Albania long ago.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:35 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
they could always join Albania and end that farce of theirs.


I mean Kosovo is mostly albanian. Frankly I would have just added it to Albania long ago.


i mean with the amount of sucking up the albanians did you'd think NATO would give them Kosovo as a present.
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Postby Qassadia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:50 am

Deltia- wrote:Well, they are in NATO, so a civil war would end in a short time, though insurgencies would continue.

That would be a stupid mistake on their part. Not gonna sugarcoat it.

NATO has never intervened militarily in the affairs of its members. What makes you think this time will be different?


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Postby Purpelia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:52 am

Qassadia wrote:
Deltia- wrote:Well, they are in NATO, so a civil war would end in a short time, though insurgencies would continue.

That would be a stupid mistake on their part. Not gonna sugarcoat it.

NATO has never intervened militarily in the affairs of its members. What makes you think this time will be different?

Because OTAN is an empire and empires do that. Especially these days when america, OTAN's primary imperial master is aching for a war and Trump needs something to help his rating.
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Postby Qassadia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:59 am

Purpelia wrote:
Qassadia wrote:That would be a stupid mistake on their part. Not gonna sugarcoat it.

NATO has never intervened militarily in the affairs of its members. What makes you think this time will be different?

Because OTAN is an empire and empires do that. Especially these days when america, OTAN's primary imperial master is aching for a war and Trump needs something to help his rating.

And it is also an ''Empire'' that is stagnating and on the way for a decline.

Besides, Trump launching a military intervention in some no-name country that only half of American Geography teachers could point out on a map would do Trump more harm than good.

Like it or not, it's unlikely for neocons to get their way with Trump if a military intervention is what they desire.

Montenegro should have never joined NATO in the first place =, full stop.


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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:59 am

East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:06 pm

Qassadia wrote:And it is also an ''Empire'' that is stagnating and on the way for a decline.

All the more dangerous. Dying empires tend to lash out to try and show strength.

Besides, Trump launching a military intervention in some no-name country that only half of American Geography teachers could point out on a map would do Trump more harm than good.

Except that description covers most of the planet including places like France. And americans have happily bombed and murdered people all around the world without being able to tell where they are. Plus OTAN has participated in wars in the region frequently and with much glee like the murderous imperial army that they are. If anything, given the history of american involvement in the region it's somewhat shocking that so many of them have joined OTAN. I'd have expected them to be as hateful (and justifiably so) of them as ISIS is.

Like it or not, it's unlikely for neocons to get their way with Trump if a military intervention is what they desire.

Which would make him the first american president not to wantonly murder foreigners for no good reason since.. what Roosevelt? Something tells me that as much as we might hope that is not realistic.

Montenegro should have never joined NATO in the first place =, full stop.

Nobody should ever join an evil empire. But they did. And now they are stuck with each other.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:09 pm

Actually giving this some more thought than I usually do, I’ve come to the realisation that the UK and other allied powers should 100% support this separation of Serbian and Montenegrin identities. The weaker Serbia, an ally of Russia, is, the better it is for the West as a whole. Ideally NATO would put down any pro-Serbia insurgencies and bolster military forces in Montenegro to see this through.
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East Blepia wrote:Krajina Serbs were expelled.

Republika Srpska was subjugated.

The Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija was invaded and stolen.

Crna Gora (Montenegro) broke away.

Now their homosexualist American puppet anti-religious regime with a ridiculous and invented flag to separate itself from Serbia is trying to take away the monasteries (which is widely unpopular triggering constant protests for months along with solidarity protests in Serbia, Republika Srpska and also even in the United States) & they have also legalized same-sex marriage and are trying to force the hand of Montenegrin society to run away from their Orthodox Serbian identity like wayward children. (Image)

What is next? Will they fill in the bay of Kotor and build a grand mall?

The lengths that the Montenegrin administration will go to, completely against its best interests, its history, and the will of its people, to try and align itself with America and NATO, are grand, and will most probably become even grander as time goes on.
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Firstly, there is no Yugoslavia. Secondly, not much about this is about racism, Montenegro slowly de-Serbianising is what we’re talking about here and not Yugoslavia’s war crimes. And Serbia is more closely aligned to Russia than the US. No communism present either. I’m honestly unsure of what your point is here.

The Islands of Versilia wrote:Actually giving this some more thought than I usually do, I’ve come to the realisation that the UK and other allied powers should 100% support this separation of Serbian and Montenegrin identities. The weaker Serbia, an ally of Russia, is, the better it is for the West as a whole. Ideally NATO would put down any pro-Serbia insurgencies and bolster military forces in Montenegro to see this through.


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Postby Qassadia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:19 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Qassadia wrote:And it is also an ''Empire'' that is stagnating and on the way for a decline.

All the more dangerous. Dying empires tend to lash out to try and show strength.

Besides, Trump launching a military intervention in some no-name country that only half of American Geography teachers could point out on a map would do Trump more harm than good.

Except that description covers most of the planet including places like France. And americans have happily bombed and murdered people all around the world without being able to tell where they are. Plus OTAN has participated in wars in the region frequently and with much glee like the murderous imperial army that they are. If anything, given the history of american involvement in the region it's somewhat shocking that so many of them have joined OTAN. I'd have expected them to be as hateful (and justifiably so) of them as ISIS is.

Like it or not, it's unlikely for neocons to get their way with Trump if a military intervention is what they desire.

Which would make him the first american president not to wantonly murder foreigners for no good reason since.. what Roosevelt? Something tells me that as much as we might hope that is not realistic.

Montenegro should have never joined NATO in the first place =, full stop.

Nobody should ever join an evil empire. But they did. And now they are stuck with each other.


Nevertheless, it will do more harm than good, to intervene in the country. They simply cannot recreate what they did in Bosnia in 1996, and they cannot just bomb Serbia as they did in '99.

Other than that, I do not think the American people would salivate to go into other countries and meddle the way they did during the years of the Bush and Obama administration, with Iraq, Libya, and Syria. They cannot just park ships and fire cruise missiles at a problem that simply does not involve them in any way. Or amass an army to destroy some dictator super villain like they did in 2003.


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Drew Durrnil
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:29 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:why is Kosovo independent anyway?

Kosovo is Albanian, not Serbian. Kosovo deserves to be either independent or part of Albania.
Last edited by Drew Durrnil on Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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