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Postby Atheris » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:50 am

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Atheris wrote:Hm. I wonder... new union of Serbia and Montenegro? Unlikely, but maybe possible.



If I remember, there were like 4 in Yugoslavia alone.


Yugoslavia ended in a series of wars. Just one after another for almost all of the 1990s.

I'm aware of that. I just can't remember how many. I think there were 4 or 5, right?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:51 am

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Yugoslavia ended in a series of wars. Just one after another for almost all of the 1990s.

I'm aware of that. I just can't remember how many. I think there were 4 or 5, right?


I know there was one in Bosnia, one in Kosovo, one in Croatia and one in Slovenia. Im gonna check on that.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:53 am

Alright so there was six in total, including the four I listed and in addition an insurgency in Macedonia and another insurgency in Serbia by Albanian militants.

All of this happened in like ten years.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:53 am

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Atheris wrote:I'm aware of that. I just can't remember how many. I think there were 4 or 5, right?


I know there was one in Bosnia, one in Kosovo, one in Croatia and one in Slovenia. Im gonna check on that.

I think you're right.
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Postby Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:24 pm

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High chance of civil unrest,low but present chance of all out war


I would say there's a very high chance of a civil war. There's already been a shitload of civil wars in the Balkans over ethnicity.

Yugoslav wars,Kosovo war,You name it

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:30 pm

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I would say there's a very high chance of a civil war. There's already been a shitload of civil wars in the Balkans over ethnicity.

Yugoslav wars,Kosovo war,You name it


When my uncle was younger back in the 1990s, the city of Sterling Heights which is just south of my hometown was rocked by inter ethnic violence between Serbs and Albanians. Not only was it violent over there but from summer of 1991 all the way up through the Kosovo war, tensions were high. Even today the Albanians and Serbs have weird relations. They don't shoot and bomb each other like they did in Sterling Heights, Troy, Hamtramck, and Detroit in the 1990s, but they aren't exactly friends.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:53 pm

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Federal Republic Of America And The Cari wrote:Yugoslav wars,Kosovo war,You name it


When my uncle was younger back in the 1990s, the city of Sterling Heights which is just south of my hometown was rocked by inter ethnic violence between Serbs and Albanians. Not only was it violent over there but from summer of 1991 all the way up through the Kosovo war, tensions were high. Even today the Albanians and Serbs have weird relations. They don't shoot and bomb each other like they did in Sterling Heights, Troy, Hamtramck, and Detroit in the 1990s, but they aren't exactly friends.


My man that is fucked up, sorry you had to deal with their shit

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:24 pm

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When my uncle was younger back in the 1990s, the city of Sterling Heights which is just south of my hometown was rocked by inter ethnic violence between Serbs and Albanians. Not only was it violent over there but from summer of 1991 all the way up through the Kosovo war, tensions were high. Even today the Albanians and Serbs have weird relations. They don't shoot and bomb each other like they did in Sterling Heights, Troy, Hamtramck, and Detroit in the 1990s, but they aren't exactly friends.


My man that is fucked up, sorry you had to deal with their shit


I wasn't alive then. My uncle was and he had to deal with the shootings and the beat downs.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:28 pm

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Atheris wrote:Hm. I wonder... new union of Serbia and Montenegro? Unlikely, but maybe possible.



If I remember, there were like 4 in Yugoslavia alone.


Yugoslavia ended in a series of wars. Just one after another for almost all of the 1990s.


Let us make a war to recreate Yugoslavia.
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Postby Esotyrica » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:29 pm

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Rojava Free State wrote:
Yugoslavia ended in a series of wars. Just one after another for almost all of the 1990s.


Let us make a war to recreate Yugoslavia.

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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:32 pm

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Let us make a war to recreate Yugoslavia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi3T6Pa9lrA


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Postby Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:09 pm

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My man that is fucked up, sorry you had to deal with their shit


I wasn't alive then. My uncle was and he had to deal with the shootings and the beat downs.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:50 pm

My friend Xhuliano's parents are war refugees from the Yugoslav wars and I remember his father once told me a story of how his friend was shot and killed and he was injured when someone fired on the car they were in. To this day it's clear just based on the look in his mother and father's eyes that they saw some shit.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Slavakino » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:13 pm

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Atheris wrote:Hm. I wonder... new union of Serbia and Montenegro? Unlikely, but maybe possible.



If I remember, there were like 4 in Yugoslavia alone.


Yugoslavia ended in a series of wars. Just one after another for almost all of the 1990s.

RIP Yugo. Unnecessarily died due to a rise of nationalism
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Rojava Free State wrote:My friend Xhuliano's parents are war refugees from the Yugoslav wars and I remember his father once told me a story of how his friend was shot and killed and he was injured when someone fired on the car they were in. To this day it's clear just based on the look in his mother and father's eyes that they saw some shit.

My dad was also a vet from the Yugo wars but he seemed to have had a good time. Sure, there were some bad times in combat and isolation for a while but he seemed to have had a good time. My dad most importantly helped civilians and escorted them to safety, him and his friend threatened to kill his group and themselves if they didn't let an 11-year-old Bosnian go
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:17 pm

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Yugoslavia ended in a series of wars. Just one after another for almost all of the 1990s.

RIP Yugo. Unnecessarily died due to a rise of nationalism

They made the best cars in history too.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:22 pm

Thank god it looks like there won't be a civil war.
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Slavakino wrote:RIP Yugo. Unnecessarily died due to a rise of nationalism

They made the best cars in history too.

Yugo was too good. Only costs 3 weeks wage, goes 0-60km/h, easy to maintain with duct tape, cheap to fix and will outlive you and your family
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I was looking at serb news today of a protest, unsure of the cause but I saw an Ortho priest trying to fight 5 cops
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Greed and Death wrote:They made the best cars in history too.

Yugo was too good. Only costs 3 weeks wage, goes 0-60km/h, easy to maintain with duct tape, cheap to fix and will outlive you and your family


Easy to take out the engine and put a V8 in the back. You'll need a parachute to stop. But by god man that was a fun car to drive.
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If the worst comes to pass and a civil war does occur, what are the chances of restoring either the Prince-Bishopric or Monarchy?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:51 pm

Slavakino wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:My friend Xhuliano's parents are war refugees from the Yugoslav wars and I remember his father once told me a story of how his friend was shot and killed and he was injured when someone fired on the car they were in. To this day it's clear just based on the look in his mother and father's eyes that they saw some shit.

My dad was also a vet from the Yugo wars but he seemed to have had a good time. Sure, there were some bad times in combat and isolation for a while but he seemed to have had a good time. My dad most importantly helped civilians and escorted them to safety, him and his friend threatened to kill his group and themselves if they didn't let an 11-year-old Bosnian go


Many of the Albanians in our area are Kosovars and their parents survived the wars. In many ways they're like the European boat people. My friend Violette's mom and her dad are also refugees from the war in Croatia. We have alot of former Yugoslavs here so the war was no stranger to me.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:20 pm

Rio Cana wrote:So is it true. NS European members should know. Is Montenegro (MNE) possibly on the verge of a Civil War. Its seems the current leader of this small Balkan nation of 600.000 people, he has been running that small nation for 30 years, :o , is trying to create a new non-Serbian connected identity for MNE. Supposedly, MNE. has Serbian roots. Anyway to do this he is erasing anything Serbian including the Serbian Orthodox religion which is a major religion in MNE. In response to this, the people of MNE. have been protesting in the streets. The government has responded by tear gassing the protesters and by using physical force. Its getting ugly by the day.

I always though that MNE. was a tranquil happy place. But it seems there are major underlining problems which is currently bursting out.

So has anyone heard about this. Where is the EU..Why are they looking the other way when it comes to MNE. I think the people in MNE. are fed up with there leader who has been there for 30 years. They want true change. True democracy.

Found out about this via this informative video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HofBZKZIbS0


How did I not know about this? Thanks for bringing it up Rio, your threads are always awesome!

As for the situation, it seems that the current dear leader of Montenegro decided that it'd be a great idea to loot Church property in a region that's healing from sectarian strife. It means that he's either an idiot who doesn't understand the ramifications of his actions, a piece of shit who does, or a bit of both.

Can we agree that it's wrong to rob people based on their race, ethnicity, skin color, national origin, gender, religion, or age? I'm not asking much from NSG, but can we at least agree that it would be a good thing to not rob people because they happen to fall in those categories?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:44 pm

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Rio Cana wrote:So is it true. NS European members should know. Is Montenegro (MNE) possibly on the verge of a Civil War. Its seems the current leader of this small Balkan nation of 600.000 people, he has been running that small nation for 30 years, :o , is trying to create a new non-Serbian connected identity for MNE. Supposedly, MNE. has Serbian roots. Anyway to do this he is erasing anything Serbian including the Serbian Orthodox religion which is a major religion in MNE. In response to this, the people of MNE. have been protesting in the streets. The government has responded by tear gassing the protesters and by using physical force. Its getting ugly by the day.

I always though that MNE. was a tranquil happy place. But it seems there are major underlining problems which is currently bursting out.

So has anyone heard about this. Where is the EU..Why are they looking the other way when it comes to MNE. I think the people in MNE. are fed up with there leader who has been there for 30 years. They want true change. True democracy.

Found out about this via this informative video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HofBZKZIbS0


How did I not know about this? Thanks for bringing it up Rio, your threads are always awesome!

As for the situation, it seems that the current dear leader of Montenegro decided that it'd be a great idea to loot Church property in a region that's healing from sectarian strife. It means that he's either an idiot who doesn't understand the ramifications of his actions, a piece of shit who does, or a bit of both.

Can we agree that it's wrong to rob people based on their race, ethnicity, skin color, national origin, gender, religion, or age? I'm not asking much from NSG, but can we at least agree that it would be a good thing to not rob people because they happen to fall in those categories?


Basically the government supports the Montenegrin Orthodox Church and is against the Serbian Orthodox Church. Why? Cause the religions are virtually the same but one is montenegrin and the other "is for dirty serbs" in their view.
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Postby Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:59 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If the worst comes to pass and a civil war does occur, what are the chances of restoring either the Prince-Bishopric or Monarchy?

Next to none,maybe?

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