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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:45 pm

Is this supposed to be a surprise, given how this year's going?

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:52 pm

I mean, the Duma can nominate the prime minister now.
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:53 pm

So if Putin is still alive in 2036, they'll change the law again.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:57 pm

Diopolis wrote:So if Putin is still alive in 2036, they'll change the law again.

Probably not, he'd most likely retire or linger for his successor. At that age everyone needs a rest.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:05 pm

Wait, didn't the amendments Putin proposed limit the terms to 2, consecutive or othervise?
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:10 pm

Hail Tsar Vladmir, first of the Putin Dynasty, Emperor of Russia, Lord of Belarus, Duke of Kazakhstan. Long may he reign!
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Postby Vivolkha » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:16 pm

Yeah, we definitely didn't see that coming. Oh wait, we did.

It's not like the referendum was held under fair conditions. They passed the constitutional changes prior to the referendum anyway so a "no" vote (already extremely implausible) wouldn't really change much.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:21 pm

Diopolis wrote:So if Putin is still alive in 2036, they'll change the law again.

Thousands will be sacrificed a day to keep him alive on his throne.
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Postby Changjo » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:26 pm

There's a surprise, you can change the name, paint it a different colour, it's still the same old Russia
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:37 pm

Heloin wrote:
Diopolis wrote:So if Putin is still alive in 2036, they'll change the law again.

Thousands will be sacrificed a day to keep him alive on his throne.

His soul will power the astronomicon.
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Postby Tokora » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:54 pm

Wait till Trump changes the constitution to keep him in power till 2046. And him dying of old age won't help because he'll make sure Jr. succeeds him. Russia brought back it's Tsar, the GOP will try to bring back it's king.

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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:55 pm

Tokora wrote:Wait till Trump changes the constitution to keep him in power till 2046. And him dying of old age won't help because he'll make sure Jr. succeeds him. Russia brought back it's Tsar, the GOP will try to bring back it's king.

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Postby Space Lads » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:00 pm

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Postby Dangine » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:05 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Well this is certainly not good. I don’t think any leader should be in power that long. Russia is essentially a full on dictatorship at this point. However without Putin leaving office soon it brings up the question of what happens when he eventually passes away? Collapse? Civil War? And what effect will this vote have on Russia’s neighbors such as Ukraine who have been issues with Russia?

I'm also curious about what will happen when Putin passes away. Probably more corruption in Russia than ever.
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:06 pm

Dangine wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Well this is certainly not good. I don’t think any leader should be in power that long. Russia is essentially a full on dictatorship at this point. However without Putin leaving office soon it brings up the question of what happens when he eventually passes away? Collapse? Civil War? And what effect will this vote have on Russia’s neighbors such as Ukraine who have been issues with Russia?

I'm also curious about what will happen when Putin passes away. Probably more corruption in Russia than ever.

Honestly, I expect something similar to what happened after Stalin died. Political backstabbing, leading to a more liberal president coming into power, and a hilarious movie coming out about it around 70 years later.
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Postby Elvectica » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:14 pm

Atheris wrote:
Dangine wrote:I'm also curious about what will happen when Putin passes away. Probably more corruption in Russia than ever.

Honestly, I expect something similar to what happened after Stalin died. Political backstabbing, leading to a more liberal president coming into power, and a hilarious movie coming out about it around 70 years later.


This is probably the best scenario frankly. Putin has no heir, and relying on state institutions after his death is obviously a risky gamble.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:24 pm

Elvectica wrote:
Atheris wrote:Honestly, I expect something similar to what happened after Stalin died. Political backstabbing, leading to a more liberal president coming into power, and a hilarious movie coming out about it around 70 years later.


This is probably the best scenario frankly. Putin has no heir, and relying on state institutions after his death is obviously a risky gamble.

I heard he's actually looking for a heir in his governors (though that news must be rechecked again). They are still young, and the provinces are a pretty great place to test their capabilities and see how they fare. I mean, if he's going to stay until 2036, having an heir right now doesn't make any sense.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:45 pm

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Britannia Maior wrote:It is rather disappointing that this has come to pass, but not necessarily unsurprising. Russian culture naturally leans towards strongman figures and Vladimir Putin has thus far managed to appeal to that. I would rather Russia return to political limbo and infighting, it’s much easier to push down then. Here’s hoping London grows a spine to deal with the Bear.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:48 pm

...That is, if he's still there in 2036. Be it death by natural causes or a coup d'etat, it's not quite right to say he's definitively there until 2036.

Russia's economy is deep in the crapper and Putin's approval rating has been dropping little by little each year. I don't see anything threatening his grasp on power in the next several years, but let's wait and see. Russia, historically, can be a bit harsh on once popular, long-serving leaders.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:...That is, if he's still there in 2036. Be it death by natural causes or a coup d'etat, it's not quite right to say he's definitively there until 2036.

Russia's economy is deep in the crapper and Putin's approval rating has been dropping little by little each year. I don't see anything threatening his grasp on power in the next several years, but let's wait and see. Russia, historically, can be a bit harsh on once popular, long-serving leaders.


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Putin's having a contest with RBG...
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Kowani wrote:Putin's having a contest with RBG...


Please, it's not even a contest.
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