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by Aclion » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:29 pm
by Bear Stearns » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:46 pm
by Vetalia » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:42 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Nobody has faith in the US's elites, and haven't for a long time. The widespread acceptance of conspiracy theories isn't a result of some sinister misinformation campaign, it's because our ruling class has failed to do its job since at least the 1980s.
by Page » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:52 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:05 am
Page wrote:What an absolutely vile woman. I wonder if she'll "kill herself" too.
by Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:40 am
Aclion wrote:Better post some national guardsmen outside her cell.
by The Two Jerseys » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:04 am
by Rojava Free State » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:49 am
Vetalia wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:Nobody has faith in the US's elites, and haven't for a long time. The widespread acceptance of conspiracy theories isn't a result of some sinister misinformation campaign, it's because our ruling class has failed to do its job since at least the 1980s.
When conspiracy theories are proven to be conspiracy facts over and over, it makes you wonder.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:51 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:02 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:25 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:27 am
Andsed wrote:A vile woman. Hoping that she does get the Epstein treatment
and testifies on the rest of the pedo scum she knows.
by Diopolis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:29 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Ifreann wrote:Why? Are they in need of a nice nap?
That's a bad joke, which has also been made a dozen times in the thread.
You should want this woman kept alive at all costs. She's an invaluable witness against (other) rich and famous people, possibly including Donald Trump. With his tiny penis he was probably front of the queue for the frightened virgins Epstein dealt in.
I'm not entirely comfortable with the US custom of indemnifying witnesses to greater crimes. It quite obviously leads to false testimony, and aside of that all crimes should be punished equally. "Good deeds" like giving evidence against accomplices in crime, should be no different than "good deeds" done since committing a crime. Slightly reducing the sentence, no more than that.
But given the US way, Maxwell could be given a greatly reduced sentence, in exchange for her testimony against others. Busting more pedophiles matters more than a heavy sentence for the one pedophile who got caught.
by Farnhamia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:51 am
Diopolis wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That's a bad joke, which has also been made a dozen times in the thread.
You should want this woman kept alive at all costs. She's an invaluable witness against (other) rich and famous people, possibly including Donald Trump. With his tiny penis he was probably front of the queue for the frightened virgins Epstein dealt in.
I'm not entirely comfortable with the US custom of indemnifying witnesses to greater crimes. It quite obviously leads to false testimony, and aside of that all crimes should be punished equally. "Good deeds" like giving evidence against accomplices in crime, should be no different than "good deeds" done since committing a crime. Slightly reducing the sentence, no more than that.
But given the US way, Maxwell could be given a greatly reduced sentence, in exchange for her testimony against others. Busting more pedophiles matters more than a heavy sentence for the one pedophile who got caught.
IIRC that system is on the way out in death penalty using southern states(which generally have restrictions on admissibility of evidence obtained that way), but she's going to be tried in New York, right?
by Diopolis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:52 am
Farnhamia wrote:Diopolis wrote:IIRC that system is on the way out in death penalty using southern states(which generally have restrictions on admissibility of evidence obtained that way), but she's going to be tried in New York, right?
On Federal charges, which is why the thread title says "S[outhern] D[istrict of] N[ew] Y[ork] Charges Epstein Associate Maxwell."
by Greed and Death » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:47 am
by Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:51 am
by Forsher » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:54 am
Novus America wrote:Still you did it first, so my point still stands. You first brought it up.
Others bringing it up AFTER you brought it up does not change that.
Forsher wrote:Hot take but there's no inherent problem with Gauthier style "generic one liner attacking replacement level right wing viewpoint". What is problematic is [...] people treating Gauthier style posts as being in response to specifically existing people instead of challenging the wider characterisation's validity.
Novus America wrote:But again this is missing the point. Epstein died, that was bad. The details of how exactly he died are not 100% certain, but at the very least negligence was involved.
That could happen again.
Ifreann wrote:
Prince Andrew claimed in an interview that ever since the Falklands its physically impossible for him to sweat, possibly the stupidest excuse a human has ever given, so I really don't think he's capable of being behind an assassination.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:59 am
Forsher wrote: I mean, NH2 raised an interesting point... but I don't really have an opinion on it.
by Farnhamia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:26 am
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:10 am
by Forsher » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:21 am
In the Auckland viaduct last week, a woman was arrested for trespassing as she boarded a vessel searching for evidence Ghislaine Maxwell was there.
by Aravea » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:23 am
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