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Postby Aclion » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:29 pm

Better post some national guardsmen outside her cell.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:46 pm

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Major-Tom wrote:I heard she was terribly depressed.

Good grief, people already talking about how she'll be killed?


Nobody has faith in the US's elites, and haven't for a long time. The widespread acceptance of conspiracy theories isn't a result of some sinister misinformation campaign, it's because our ruling class has failed to do its job since at least the 1980s.
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Bear Stearns wrote:Nobody has faith in the US's elites, and haven't for a long time. The widespread acceptance of conspiracy theories isn't a result of some sinister misinformation campaign, it's because our ruling class has failed to do its job since at least the 1980s.


When conspiracy theories are proven to be conspiracy facts over and over, it makes you wonder.
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Postby Page » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:52 pm

What an absolutely vile woman. I wonder if she'll "kill herself" too.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:05 am

Page wrote:What an absolutely vile woman. I wonder if she'll "kill herself" too.


We're hoping not. We're hoping she gives evidence against other pedophiles, in exchange for a lesser charge.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:40 am

Aclion wrote:Better post some national guardsmen outside her cell.

Why? Are they in need of a nice nap?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:04 am

Has she been suicided yet?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:49 am

Vetalia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Nobody has faith in the US's elites, and haven't for a long time. The widespread acceptance of conspiracy theories isn't a result of some sinister misinformation campaign, it's because our ruling class has failed to do its job since at least the 1980s.


When conspiracy theories are proven to be conspiracy facts over and over, it makes you wonder.


Once upon a time, it was considered a conspiracy theory to think the government was spying on your phone.

We now know the NSA has been doing that for years.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:02 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Nobody:

Prince Andrew when Epstein went to jail: "commit deathpacito"

Prince Andrew claimed in an interview that ever since the Falklands its physically impossible for him to sweat, possibly the stupidest excuse a human has ever given, so I really don't think he's capable of being behind an assassination.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:11 am

A vile woman. Hoping that she does get the Epstein treatment and testifies on the rest of the pedo scum she knows.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:25 am

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Aclion wrote:Better post some national guardsmen outside her cell.

Why? Are they in need of a nice nap?


That's a bad joke, which has also been made a dozen times in the thread.

You should want this woman kept alive at all costs. She's an invaluable witness against (other) rich and famous people, possibly including Donald Trump. With his tiny penis he was probably front of the queue for the frightened virgins Epstein dealt in.

I'm not entirely comfortable with the US custom of indemnifying witnesses to greater crimes. It quite obviously leads to false testimony, and aside of that all crimes should be punished equally. "Good deeds" like giving evidence against accomplices in crime, should be no different than "good deeds" done since committing a crime. Slightly reducing the sentence, no more than that.

But given the US way, Maxwell could be given a greatly reduced sentence, in exchange for her testimony against others. Busting more pedophiles matters more than a heavy sentence for the one pedophile who got caught.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:27 am

Andsed wrote:A vile woman. Hoping that she does get the Epstein treatment


and testifies on the rest of the pedo scum she knows.


You can have one, or the other.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:29 am

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Ifreann wrote:Why? Are they in need of a nice nap?


That's a bad joke, which has also been made a dozen times in the thread.

You should want this woman kept alive at all costs. She's an invaluable witness against (other) rich and famous people, possibly including Donald Trump. With his tiny penis he was probably front of the queue for the frightened virgins Epstein dealt in.

I'm not entirely comfortable with the US custom of indemnifying witnesses to greater crimes. It quite obviously leads to false testimony, and aside of that all crimes should be punished equally. "Good deeds" like giving evidence against accomplices in crime, should be no different than "good deeds" done since committing a crime. Slightly reducing the sentence, no more than that.

But given the US way, Maxwell could be given a greatly reduced sentence, in exchange for her testimony against others. Busting more pedophiles matters more than a heavy sentence for the one pedophile who got caught.

IIRC that system is on the way out in death penalty using southern states(which generally have restrictions on admissibility of evidence obtained that way), but she's going to be tried in New York, right?
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Postby Andsed » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:29 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Andsed wrote:A vile woman. Hoping that she does get the Epstein treatment


and testifies on the rest of the pedo scum she knows.


You can have one, or the other.

... My brain is very clearly on the moronic setting I meant to say "Hoping she does NOT get the Epstein treatment."
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:51 am

Diopolis wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That's a bad joke, which has also been made a dozen times in the thread.

You should want this woman kept alive at all costs. She's an invaluable witness against (other) rich and famous people, possibly including Donald Trump. With his tiny penis he was probably front of the queue for the frightened virgins Epstein dealt in.

I'm not entirely comfortable with the US custom of indemnifying witnesses to greater crimes. It quite obviously leads to false testimony, and aside of that all crimes should be punished equally. "Good deeds" like giving evidence against accomplices in crime, should be no different than "good deeds" done since committing a crime. Slightly reducing the sentence, no more than that.

But given the US way, Maxwell could be given a greatly reduced sentence, in exchange for her testimony against others. Busting more pedophiles matters more than a heavy sentence for the one pedophile who got caught.

IIRC that system is on the way out in death penalty using southern states(which generally have restrictions on admissibility of evidence obtained that way), but she's going to be tried in New York, right?

On Federal charges, which is why the thread title says "S[outhern] D[istrict of] N[ew] Y[ork] Charges Epstein Associate Maxwell."
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:52 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:IIRC that system is on the way out in death penalty using southern states(which generally have restrictions on admissibility of evidence obtained that way), but she's going to be tried in New York, right?

On Federal charges, which is why the thread title says "S[outhern] D[istrict of] N[ew] Y[ork] Charges Epstein Associate Maxwell."

Ah.
I did not know what the acronym stood for. Thanks.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:47 am

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Aeritai wrote:Hopefully this doesn't become another Epstein situation.

Hopefully someone will actually talk about the topic and not join the juvenile giggling.


This is not a good thread to be talking about juveniles Farn.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:51 am

Diopolis wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:On Federal charges, which is why the thread title says "S[outhern] D[istrict of] N[ew] Y[ork] Charges Epstein Associate Maxwell."

Ah.
I did not know what the acronym stood for. Thanks.

And here I thought she'd been arrested by the Southern Dundee Novice Yachters.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:54 am

Novus America wrote:Still you did it first, so my point still stands. You first brought it up.
Others bringing it up AFTER you brought it up does not change that.


All things to those that wait:

Forsher wrote:Hot take but there's no inherent problem with Gauthier style "generic one liner attacking replacement level right wing viewpoint". What is problematic is [...] people treating Gauthier style posts as being in response to specifically existing people instead of challenging the wider characterisation's validity.


Have you... not heard of observational comedy?

Not that I'm necessarily claiming Gormwood is actually funny but the idea of responding to this sort of post by saying "YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE SAYING THIS" is hilarious. It completely misses the point.

Now... if Gormwood was the first one to say this ever...

...I guess we should be praising the prescience.

Novus America wrote:But again this is missing the point. Epstein died, that was bad. The details of how exactly he died are not 100% certain, but at the very least negligence was involved.

That could happen again.


That might well be your point, but the vibe I was getting from the thread was very much "ah, I know a meme when I see one".

And, of course, that doesn't preclude that they share your sentiment it's just... not all satire works, you know?

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Rojava Free State wrote:Nobody:

Prince Andrew when Epstein went to jail: "commit deathpacito"

Prince Andrew claimed in an interview that ever since the Falklands its physically impossible for him to sweat, possibly the stupidest excuse a human has ever given, so I really don't think he's capable of being behind an assassination.


In a thread full of... jokes... the only thing that's really made me laugh.

That being said, I'm not really sure what there is to say about this other than whatever style of joke one wants to make. I mean, NH2 raised an interesting point... but I don't really have an opinion on it.

I've never been particularly interested in crime stories. Wake me up if we learn about some conspiracy or reveal systemtic support for paedophilia is confirmed because there's a sheep skin with my name on it, and the other sheeple are calling.
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Forsher wrote: I mean, NH2 raised an interesting point... but I don't really have an opinion on it.


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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:26 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Hopefully someone will actually talk about the topic and not join the juvenile giggling.


This is not a good thread to be talking about juveniles Farn.

Not funny.

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Diopolis wrote:Ah.
I did not know what the acronym stood for. Thanks.

And here I thought she'd been arrested by the Southern Dundee Novice Yachters.

Funny.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:10 am

Ifreann wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Ah.
I did not know what the acronym stood for. Thanks.

And here I thought she'd been arrested by the Southern Dundee Novice Yachters.


Nobody expects the Southern Dundee Novice yachters!!
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Postby Forsher » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:21 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And here I thought she'd been arrested by the Southern Dundee Novice Yachters.


Nobody expects the Southern Dundee Novice yachters!!


They did, however, suspect this marina in... Auckland.

In the Auckland viaduct last week, a woman was arrested for trespassing as she boarded a vessel searching for evidence Ghislaine Maxwell was there.


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Postby Aravea » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:23 am

Watch her end up committing "suicide" as well. Give it a month and she will end up like Epstein.
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