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G4 EA H1N1 (novel swine flu): Apocalypse Later?

Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:07 pm

Region of Dwipantara wrote:What else will happen next month? A new flu virus that night trigger a second pandemic this year? Oh wait.

...the Beeb reports that a new strain of swine flu (G4 EA H1N1), which bears similarities to the 2009 pandemic flu (A/H1N1pdm09) and can be inoculated against using adapted versions of current flu vaccines, has appeared in pigs in China. It can spread from pigs to humans, but the danger of person-to-person transmission - while not imminent - is possible. Many have expressed concerns about the emergence of a new strain of flu in recent weeks.

This is intended to be a catch-all thread about G4 EA H1N1 swine flu; the moratorium on coronavirus-related misinformation does not currently extend to swine flu, but I will update this OP if and when it does. Food for thought: How far could this go? (Personal opinion - one of two ways. Either this peters out and we hear nothing more about it, or it winds up spreading massively over the winter and absolutely clobbering hospitals for a few months until the vaccines can be re-engineered as appropriate.)
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:09 pm

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Postby Twicetagram and JYPE » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:11 pm

What else does 2020 want to offer us
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:11 pm

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Postby Xmara » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:16 pm

We're not gonna make it to 2021, are we?
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPE » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:23 pm

Xmara wrote:We're not gonna make it to 2021, are we?

Let’s hope we all survive to celebrate Christmas.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:24 pm

So who had another pandemic down for July? Because I put space aliens. Though I have nuclear war down for October
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Postby Xmara » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:So who had another pandemic down for July? Because I put space aliens. Though I have nuclear war down for October

I put down werewolves for October (there's supposed to be a rare full moon on Halloween this year)
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPE » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:26 pm

Xmara wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So who had another pandemic down for July? Because I put space aliens. Though I have nuclear war down for October

I put down werewolves for October (there's supposed to be a rare full moon on Halloween this year)

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Xmara wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So who had another pandemic down for July? Because I put space aliens. Though I have nuclear war down for October

I put down werewolves for October (there's supposed to be a rare full moon on Halloween this year)

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Postby Rusozak » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:37 pm

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Please stop being the source of deadly outbreaks.
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Postby Xmara » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:42 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Xmara wrote:I put down werewolves for October (there's supposed to be a rare full moon on Halloween this year)

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If something bad happens at the start of each season, what will hit us come the equinox? I'm going to guess WWIII.


Please let this be a lie so more people don't suffer.

Tbh werewolves would be a welcome break from everything else. Sounds much more fun than a virus.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:So who had another pandemic down for July? Because I put space aliens. Though I have nuclear war down for October

I have another pandemic down for September. I have Yellowstone eruption for July.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:54 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Region of Dwipantara wrote:What else will happen next month? A new flu virus that night trigger a second pandemic this year? Oh wait.

...the Beeb reports that a new strain of swine flu (G4 EA H1N1), which bears similarities to the 2009 pandemic flu (A/H1N1pdm09) and can be inoculated against using adapted versions of current flu vaccines, has appeared in pigs in China. It can spread from pigs to humans, but the danger of person-to-person transmission - while not imminent - is possible. Many have expressed concerns about the emergence of a new strain of flu in recent weeks.

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Uh, mods aren't very keen on posters declaring their own MEGAthreads just now.

It would reflect very badly on pharmas who virtually abandoned work on SARS-1 ... work that could have been very useful against COVID-19 ... if they also abandoned work on the Swine Flu virus that could be useful against this.
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Postby Liberty3 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:20 pm

Does international travel currently permit international viral transmission? I know the EU, Communist China and Iran's citizens cannot enter USA easily, but how do other country's treat Communist Chinese travelers atm?

What measures could be taken to prevent this new disease from entering your country?

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:11 pm

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Twicetagram and JYPE wrote:
Xmara wrote:We're not gonna make it to 2021, are we?

Let’s hope we all survive to celebrate Christmas.

No problem, I've scheduled the asteroid impact for Boxing Day.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:59 pm

Can't wait until we switch to boneless, disease-free cultured meat.

According to the source, we could probably adapt current vaccines to protect against it, which we absolutely should. I'm not eager for the release of 2020 Pandemic II: Oinking It Up Again when the US and other countries are still trapped in the burning wreck of a theater currently screening 2020 Pandemic.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:17 am

We already have an H1N1 vaccine that was widely distributed and that is still distributed in seasonal flu vaccines IIRC.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:21 am

Costa Fierro wrote:We already have an H1N1 vaccine that was widely distributed and that is still distributed in seasonal flu vaccines IIRC.

Yeah, while this novel strain doesn't have any readily available vaccine, it seems like the production of a new one to a distribution-ready state would be much faster than Covid's.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:35 am

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:We already have an H1N1 vaccine that was widely distributed and that is still distributed in seasonal flu vaccines IIRC.

Yeah, while this novel strain doesn't have any readily available vaccine, it seems like the production of a new one to a distribution-ready state would be much faster than Covid's.


It would be because existing vaccines already exist to combat H1N1.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:43 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Region of Dwipantara wrote:Yeah, while this novel strain doesn't have any readily available vaccine, it seems like the production of a new one to a distribution-ready state would be much faster than Covid's.


It would be because existing vaccines already exist to combat H1N1.

...Current flu vaccines do not appear to protect against it, although they could be adapted to do so if needed....


Really, what I'm more concerned is how often these new viruses pops up. Can the globalized economy really sustain this? Especially as technology progresses, genetic engineering will become more accessible, leading to the emergence of bioterrorism. When the planes crashes into the twin towers, US was terrified and angry, sure. But it did not cause the entire global economy to stumble into minus growth.
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