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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:30 pm

Hunzali wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Gotta love modern progressivism. You can be as racist and grotesque as you want as long as it is against the "right" people.

..But no? Where are people being racist here? When people make subreddits like r/fragilewhiteredditor, if you haven't noticed, most of the people there are white. It's people pointing out the hypocrisy of many redditors: complaining about the fragility of minorities, getting called a light slur (eg "cracker") and then freaking the fuck out.

That is reddit.

I'm not thinking of stupid satire reddits. You expect me to believe there are no genuine anti-white posters on the site? Radical anti-white groups like the NOI do exist. You want to protect obvious satire, then they could put a provision that exempts obvious satire.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:30 pm

Hunzali wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Ah yes, shutting down harassment and hate groups is so awful. In fact, it's just as bad as Nazi Germany.

Didn't the El Paso shooter talk about how mexican's were "invaders" on r/thedonald? If anything, reddit is fed up with acting like r/thedonald, the people who continue to compare themselves to Holocaust survivors, is normal.

Give it a day and Ben Garrison will make his comic about why Reddit is killing "free speech".

Don't forget the Dayton shooter
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Tornado Queendom wrote:I give it a 0/8

3 points deducted for hate speech rules
3 points deducted for not enforcing them equally

why are you starting at 6 when the maximum is 8. this is a weird scoring system

It's relative to your score
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:31 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Hunzali wrote:..No? What does having to label it NSFW have to do with anything? If you haven't noticed, white fragility is peaking right now as when Caucasian people get even a slight taste of racial discrimination, they freak out. And you know what, I don't blame some of them. But reddit is not "racist" towards white people.

They are treating the undefined majority like hot garbage! That's what's wrong with it!
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I didn't realise all Nazi Germany did was change some rules that bans discrimination against all but a fairly loosely defined majority.

Though to make an actual point beyond "a Nazi Germany comparison is stupid", the rule should've protected people in the majority from genuine discrimination, harassment, bullying etc.

That's why I said "REVERSE Nazi Germany"

Don't compare this to Nazi Germany. I don't think that helps your cause.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:31 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Ah yes, shutting down harassment and hate groups is so awful. In fact, it's just as bad as Nazi Germany.

The whole "doesn't protect majority groups from hate speech" thing is rather concerning, considering that majority groups are equally likely to be targeted by 'hate speech'.

If they're taking a firmer stand against hate speech, which isn't entirely a bad thing, they may as well be consistent and stand against all of it rather than singling out one kind as being 'okay' or something.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:31 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Hunzali wrote:..But no? Where are people being racist here? When people make subreddits like r/fragilewhiteredditor, if you haven't noticed, most of the people there are white. It's people pointing out the hypocrisy of many redditors: complaining about the fragility of minorities, getting called a light slur (eg "cracker") and then freaking the fuck out.

That is reddit.

I'm not thinking of stupid satire reddits. You expect me to believe there are no genuine anti-white posters on the site? Radical anti-white groups like the NOI do exist. You want to protect obvious satire, then they could put a provision that exempts obvious satire.

Or just not have hate speech rules in the first place

But that would turn Reddit into MySpace.

Still a better fate than censoring yourself to death.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:32 pm

Awww here I was hoping we were banning the lefties.
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Postby Pangurstan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:32 pm

Greed and Death wrote:Awww here I was hoping we were banning the lefties.

r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned

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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:33 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Ah yes, shutting down harassment and hate groups is so awful. In fact, it's just as bad as Nazi Germany.

The whole "doesn't protect majority groups from hate speech" thing is rather concerning, considering that majority groups are equally likely to be targeted by 'hate speech'.

If they're taking a firmer stand against hate speech, which isn't entirely a bad thing, they may as well be consistent and stand against all of it rather than singling out one kind as being 'okay' or something.

Either fight against all of it or allow all of it. Any middle ground on Hate Speech censorship is Fascism.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:33 pm

Pangurstan wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Awww here I was hoping we were banning the lefties.

r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned

Wait, really? Never thought I hear that in my life.
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Postby Estanglia » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:33 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Hunzali wrote:..No? What does having to label it NSFW have to do with anything? If you haven't noticed, white fragility is peaking right now as when Caucasian people get even a slight taste of racial discrimination, they freak out. And you know what, I don't blame some of them. But reddit is not "racist" towards white people.

They are treating the undefined majority like hot garbage! That's what's wrong with it!
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I didn't realise all Nazi Germany did was change some rules that bans discrimination against all but a fairly loosely defined majority.

Though to make an actual point beyond "a Nazi Germany comparison is stupid", the rule should've protected people in the majority from genuine discrimination, harassment, bullying etc.

That's why I said "REVERSE Nazi Germany"


Yes, I know you did.

Unless you're using "reverse Nazi Germany" to say "this is extremely mild compared to Nazi Germany", if the reverse of Nazi Germany is a rule change, then all Nazi Germany was was a rule change.
That, or this isn't actually "REVERSE Nazi Germany".
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Postby Hunzali » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:34 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Hunzali wrote:..But no? Where are people being racist here? When people make subreddits like r/fragilewhiteredditor, if you haven't noticed, most of the people there are white. It's people pointing out the hypocrisy of many redditors: complaining about the fragility of minorities, getting called a light slur (eg "cracker") and then freaking the fuck out.

That is reddit.

I'm not thinking of stupid satire reddits. You expect me to believe there are no genuine anti-white posters on the site? Radical anti-white groups like the NOI do exist. You want to protect obvious satire, then they could put a provision that exempts obvious satire.

I seriously doubt there are very man "anti-white" groups on the site. If anything, the larger problem is anti-minority groups on the site. If you ever were unlucky enough to see r/gamersriseup in it's last days, it was a hellhole of blaming African-Americans.
Tornado Queendom wrote:
Hunzali wrote:Didn't the El Paso shooter talk about how mexican's were "invaders" on r/thedonald? If anything, reddit is fed up with acting like r/thedonald, the people who continue to compare themselves to Holocaust survivors, is normal.

Give it a day and Ben Garrison will make his comic about why Reddit is killing "free speech".

Don't forget the Dayton shooter
Cekoviu wrote:why are you starting at 6 when the maximum is 8. this is a weird scoring system

It's relative to your score

You just proved my point. r/thedonald helped radicalize both of those shooters.

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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:35 pm

Pangurstan wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Awww here I was hoping we were banning the lefties.

r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned

I think I'm turning to "AnCap Posadism"

As in we should nuke the planet, and then set up an Anarcho-Capitalist "state".

It's the only road to freedom left at this point.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:35 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:why are you starting at 6 when the maximum is 8. this is a weird scoring system

It's relative to your score

you'd be an awful judge on a reality cooking show
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:36 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Pangurstan wrote:r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned

I think I'm turning to "AnCap Posadism"

As in we should nuke the planet, and then set up an Anarcho-Capitalist state.

It's the only road to freedom left at this point.

>anarcho-capitalist
>state
:THINKING:
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:37 pm

Hunzali wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I'm not thinking of stupid satire reddits. You expect me to believe there are no genuine anti-white posters on the site? Radical anti-white groups like the NOI do exist. You want to protect obvious satire, then they could put a provision that exempts obvious satire.

I seriously doubt there are very man "anti-white" groups on the site. If anything, the larger problem is anti-minority groups on the site. If you ever were unlucky enough to see r/gamersriseup in it's last days, it was a hellhole of blaming African-Americans.

Doesn't matter. If you ban hate, you should protect everyone. Even if they're a lesser problem, they should not have carte blanche to be a racist simply because they are doing it against whites. Enforcing this equally would not be problematic.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:37 pm

Hunzali wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I'm not thinking of stupid satire reddits. You expect me to believe there are no genuine anti-white posters on the site? Radical anti-white groups like the NOI do exist. You want to protect obvious satire, then they could put a provision that exempts obvious satire.

I seriously doubt there are very man "anti-white" groups on the site. If anything, the larger problem is anti-minority groups on the site. If you ever were unlucky enough to see r/gamersriseup in it's last days, it was a hellhole of blaming African-Americans.
Tornado Queendom wrote:Don't forget the Dayton shooter

It's relative to your score

You just proved my point. r/thedonald helped radicalize both of those shooters.

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwhite/ got a post 5 hours ago
2. The Dayton shooter was part of Antifa, and Antifa is not known for being pro-trump.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:37 pm

While I won't go as far as OP and call this "fascist" (it isn't), it's still shitty, hypocritical, and ultimately will make Reddit into a total wreck (assuming it wasn't already). This isn't Nazi level stuff, but it is deliberately saying "Hate speech is wrong, except when directed at people we deem acceptable to spread hate speech toward, which happens to include entire identities of people who didn't do anything to warrant this.", which is a dangerous path to go on. I say this decision is a pile of bull the size of the Alps.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:38 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:I think I'm turning to "AnCap Posadism"

As in we should nuke the planet, and then set up an Anarcho-Capitalist state.

It's the only road to freedom left at this point.

>anarcho-capitalist
>state
:THINKING:

"State" as in "state of being," not as in "Nation State".
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:38 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Pangurstan wrote:r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned

Wait, really? Never thought I hear that in my life.


Yeah they got doxxed too one of them had their house broken into.
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Postby Qabea » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:38 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Hunzali wrote:I seriously doubt there are very man "anti-white" groups on the site. If anything, the larger problem is anti-minority groups on the site. If you ever were unlucky enough to see r/gamersriseup in it's last days, it was a hellhole of blaming African-Americans.
You just proved my point. r/thedonald helped radicalize both of those shooters.

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwhite/ got a post 5 hours ago
2. The Dayton shooter was part of Antifa, and Antifa is not known for being pro-trump.

He was part of the SRA, not Antifa. Totally different groups.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:39 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Hunzali wrote:I seriously doubt there are very man "anti-white" groups on the site. If anything, the larger problem is anti-minority groups on the site. If you ever were unlucky enough to see r/gamersriseup in it's last days, it was a hellhole of blaming African-Americans.
You just proved my point. r/thedonald helped radicalize both of those shooters.

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwhite/ got a post 5 hours ago
2. The Dayton shooter was part of Antifa, and Antifa is not known for being pro-trump.

Good news is it seems r/antiwhite is under new, non-racist management!
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:39 pm

Qabea wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:1. https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwhite/ got a post 5 hours ago
2. The Dayton shooter was part of Antifa, and Antifa is not known for being pro-trump.

He was part of the SRA, not Antifa. Totally different groups.

SRA means "Socialist Rifle Association"

What's the opposite of the SRA?
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:40 pm

Qabea wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:1. https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwhite/ got a post 5 hours ago
2. The Dayton shooter was part of Antifa, and Antifa is not known for being pro-trump.

He was part of the SRA, not Antifa. Totally different groups.

Wait, was he actually? Damn, I used to respect the SRA.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:40 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
Qabea wrote:He was part of the SRA, not Antifa. Totally different groups.

SRA means "Socialist Rifle Association"

What's the opposite of the SRA?

Capitalists Against Gun Ownership?
CAGO?
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Postby Mexican Liberation » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:40 pm

These weren't really your run-of-the-mill right wing discussion boards.

r/WhiteBeauty was meant as a counter to r/BlackBeauty of posting pictures of beautiful women in general. It was banned for anti-race mixing rhetoric and disallowing pictures of Jewish women.

This isn't persecution, this is the banning of subreddits that actually promote conspiracy fear-mongering and doxxing like r/physicalremoval back in the day that openly talked about exterminating leftists.
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