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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:12 pm

Liriena wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:He kind of did, but I might have been unclear in my phrasing. I meant if you think some of the bans were wrong and not all, not the subs themselves.

The r/ChapoTrapHouse ban was probably legitimate, if we abided by a strict interpretation of Reddit rules.

I actually didn't even know that was a sub, and don't know based on the name what it was about.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:12 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Liriena wrote:Both.

I enjoyed that subreddit immensely. There was a lot of good posting in there. But lines were crossed repeatedly and, even with the veil of irony, a lot of the discourse there wasn't helpful or healthy.

Which previous rule did they break?

IIRC, advocacy for violence. Because of all the John Brown posting.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:15 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Which previous rule did they break?

IIRC, advocacy for violence. Because of all the John Brown posting.

I guess that makes sense. Wouldn't that usually be handled with bans against the posters concerned though?

I do wonder if these subs would be banned (particularly chapo and the_donald) if the mods were capable of keeping crud out.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pm

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Liriena wrote:The r/ChapoTrapHouse ban was probably legitimate, if we abided by a strict interpretation of Reddit rules.

I actually didn't even know that was a sub, and don't know based on the name what it was about.

It's the name of a left-wing comedy(?) podcast. The podcast is pretty good, I think. Some really fun bits as they rage at the small world of NYT op-ed writers and such.

The podcasts' hosts are Bernie supporters, but over time the sub itself basically became a mixture of Bernie supporters, revolutionary leftists and doomers.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:17 pm

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Galloism wrote:I actually didn't even know that was a sub, and don't know based on the name what it was about.

It's the name of a left-wing comedy(?) podcast. The podcast is pretty good, I think. Some really fun bits as they rage at the small world of NYT op-ed writers and such.

The podcasts' hosts are Bernie supporters, but over time the sub itself basically became a mixture of Bernie supporters, revolutionary leftists and doomers.

I'll have to check out the podcast.

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:17 pm

Galloism wrote:
Liriena wrote:The r/ChapoTrapHouse ban was probably legitimate, if we abided by a strict interpretation of Reddit rules.

I actually didn't even know that was a sub, and don't know based on the name what it was about.

It's a sub ostensibly dedicated to the Chapo Trap House podcast. The podcast is a bunch of Brooklyn champagne socialists pretending that they're funny and clever. The subreddit is mostly rose twitterers and tankies who constantly complained about the democratic party, the DNC, and the rich. They probably got banned for constantly talking about murdering all of the people they disagree with.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:17 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Liriena wrote:IIRC, advocacy for violence. Because of all the John Brown posting.

I guess that makes sense. Wouldn't that usually be handled with bans against the posters concerned though?

I do wonder if these subs would be banned (particularly chapo and the_donald) if the mods were capable of keeping crud out.

From what I recall, Reddit admins held the CTH mods responsible for not keeping those posters in check enough. That was how the sub ended up getting quarantined. The community remained very active, but it was kind of implicitly agreed by everyone there that their days were numbered even if the mods and the posters tried to do better.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:22 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Galloism wrote:I actually didn't even know that was a sub, and don't know based on the name what it was about.

It's a sub ostensibly dedicated to the Chapo Trap House podcast. The podcast is a bunch of Brooklyn champagne socialists pretending that they're funny and clever. The subreddit is mostly rose twitterers and tankies who constantly complained about the democratic party, the DNC, and the rich. The probably got banned for constantly talking about murdering all of the people they disagree with.


The best summary of their ban I've seen yet lol
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:24 pm

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United Dependencies wrote:It's a sub ostensibly dedicated to the Chapo Trap House podcast. The podcast is a bunch of Brooklyn champagne socialists pretending that they're funny and clever. The subreddit is mostly rose twitterers and tankies who constantly complained about the democratic party, the DNC, and the rich. The probably got banned for constantly talking about murdering all of the people they disagree with.


The best summary of their ban I've seen yet lol

There are so few places to talk about killing those we disagree with now. Especially given a sub literally called murder fantasies was banned, for being unmoderated of all things.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:28 pm

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For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority

Huh, so as long as my VPN is set to a black majority country I have a hard r pass? Oh and since women are 51% of population, now I can act like the (internal) misogynist I have always wanted to be? Very cool reddit, this rule definitely won't get changed in like a week.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:30 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The best summary of their ban I've seen yet lol

There are so few places to talk about killing those we disagree with now. Especially given a sub literally called murder fantasies was banned, for being unmoderated of all things.


Phew thank heavens I've recently moderated my murder fantasies to mere grievous bodily harm fantasies.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:32 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:There are so few places to talk about killing those we disagree with now. Especially given a sub literally called murder fantasies was banned, for being unmoderated of all things.


Phew thank heavens I've recently moderated my murder fantasies to mere grievous bodily harm fantasies.

If you were a moderator on something called 'murder fantasies,' wtf would you actually be doing?

'This post was removed as it was not advocating death'
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:34 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Phew thank heavens I've recently moderated my murder fantasies to mere grievous bodily harm fantasies.

If you were a moderator on something called 'murder fantasies,' wtf would you actually be doing?

'This post was removed as it was not advocating death'

I think the issue there was that, if the person posting their fantasy worded it in a specific way, they could have been construed as not just fantasizing about murder, but to be actually advocating, threatening or conspiring to commit murder, in which case Reddit itself could get in trouble for not doing anything.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Liriena wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:If you were a moderator on something called 'murder fantasies,' wtf would you actually be doing?

'This post was removed as it was not advocating death'

I think the issue there was that, if the person posting their fantasy worded it in a specific way, they could have been construed as not just fantasizing about murder, but to be actually advocating, threatening or conspiring to commit murder, in which case Reddit itself could get in trouble for not doing anything.

Nope when a sub is banned for being 'unmoderated,' it's because the mods have actually fucked off not because they're just not very good.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:41 pm

Galloism wrote:
Liriena wrote:The r/ChapoTrapHouse ban was probably legitimate, if we abided by a strict interpretation of Reddit rules.

I actually didn't even know that was a sub, and don't know based on the name what it was about.


/r/ChapoTrapHouse really didn't have that much of a positive reputation, always seemed to be like The_Donald but for tankies.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:43 pm

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Like how if we privatize healthcare, it's fine to deny it to Jews, not racism.

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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:51 pm

Liriena wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Which previous rule did they break?

IIRC, advocacy for violence. Because of all the John Brown posting.

I seem to recall a fair share of guillotine memes originating there as well, or at least passing through. Though I may be confusing it with another subreddit (Not a redditor, so memory can be off).


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:54 pm

Why would r/redpill be banned when men are the minority in the US and face discrimination in many walks of life :thinking: could it be that corporations don't actually care about discrimination?
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Why would r/redpill be banned when men are the minority in the US and face discrimination in many walks of life :thinking: could it be that corporations don't actually care about discrimination?

Is it like actually banned though? The sub shows up as being quarantined with zero members.
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Othrodox Empire wrote:r/incel banned
r/BigChungus banned
r/redpill banned

reddit is boring website, only good thing from it as far as i know are some minority meme content, and life stories wallposts for people who read that stuff.

what the fuck was r/BigChungus
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Othrodox Empire wrote:the rule wont really protect minor groups but rather its an excuse loophole to be abused for enforcing NPC rules of BLM and american degenerate far left groups.
IMO nazis are minor group! They gonna ban them right away. They will simply say "cuz white iz majority"
like if pedophiles are white does that make them a majority????

What if, like me, you find it offensive to have someone lump you in with a minority group that needs protecting?
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Othrodox Empire wrote:r/incel banned
r/BigChungus banned
r/redpill banned

reddit is boring website, only good thing from it as far as i know are some minority meme content, and life stories wallposts for people who read that stuff.

what the fuck was r/BigChungus

Is that really something you would like to know?
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Wait r/BigChungus was banned?! Why did they have to remove that?
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Aureumterra wrote:Wait r/BigChungus was banned?! Why did they have to remove that?

They only like smole chungus?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:24 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:what the fuck was r/BigChungus

Is that really something you would like to know?

Uh.. i ..dont know
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