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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:06 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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This is why The Democrats don't like actually helping minorities. If the minority isn't held over a barrel for eternity they might stop being captured voters!

The toxicity in lgbt spaces towards anybody who leans to the right is highly evident. I've been told, however, that it's nothing compared to the shit that you get for being right-wing and an ethnic minority. You can actually lose friends for suggesting in disability groups that the tories aren't the embodiment of all that is evil.

lefty homosexuals aren't hostile towards right-wingers because of their political views, they're hostile towards them because they're mad that they expose the truth of pink fascism :^)
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:08 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The toxicity in lgbt spaces towards anybody who leans to the right is highly evident. I've been told, however, that it's nothing compared to the shit that you get for being right-wing and an ethnic minority. You can actually lose friends for suggesting in disability groups that the tories aren't the embodiment of all that is evil.

If people are going to leave you for disagreeing with them, maybe they weren’t good friends in the first place? Many of my best friends are also political opposites, but we get along

I completely agree.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:08 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:There is a proposed internet rule that I agree with.

Before calling your opponents Nazis, commies, fascists etc, show how they fit the description. What about these people made them Nazis, rather than just a little bit further to the right than you might like?

there is no such thing as a right-wing homosexual who is not a crypto-fascist - see Maxim Gorkiy

Don't they tend to be doorslammers who look down on other LGBTs not sharing their mindset with contempt?
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:09 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The toxicity in lgbt spaces towards anybody who leans to the right is highly evident. I've been told, however, that it's nothing compared to the shit that you get for being right-wing and an ethnic minority. You can actually lose friends for suggesting in disability groups that the tories aren't the embodiment of all that is evil.

lefty homosexuals aren't hostile towards right-wingers because of their political views, they're hostile towards them because they're mad that they expose the truth of pink fascism :^)

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:10 am

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Cekoviu wrote:there is no such thing as a right-wing homosexual who is not a crypto-fascist - see Maxim Gorkiy

Don't they tend to be doorslammers who look down on other LGBTs not sharing their mindset with contempt?

I think that's left-wing homosexuals you're referring to.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:12 am

I just realized, Reddit did the subreddit purge the day before China passed their controversial Hong Kong law
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No State Here wrote:I just realized, Reddit did the subreddit purge the day before China passed their controversial Hong Kong law

You just realized that?
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Postby Prozitia » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:30 am

Another horseshoe, I see. People will never get tired of this, will they? Now, Reddit moderation is indeed shit, but it's happening to leftists as well. Also, the reason hate speech is not free speech is because it agitates violence against an innocent group of people, whether directly or indirectly. But the libtards have taken this notion and turned it into a reason to censor people to keep a good image of themselves. There's nothing leftist about this. If anything, this is the result of pink capitalism, like most other media platforms have become in the last few years.

You might ask, "well, isn't ACAB also hate speech, then?". To which I can only say, "nice horseshoe." What it means is that the current system of policing is structured in such a way that requires all cops to be bastards, whether they like it or not. But saying that blacks are "scientifically inferior" is another thing in itself, because it attacks individuals, not unjust organizations (punching a dude neither makes an organization or unjust violence, however) or ideas. Vulnerable individuals, I may add.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:37 am

Prozitia wrote:Another horseshoe, I see. People will never get tired of this, will they? Now, Reddit moderation is indeed shit, but it's happening to leftists as well. Also, the reason hate speech is not free speech is because it agitates violence against an innocent group of people, whether directly or indirectly. But the libtards have taken this notion and turned it into a reason to censor people to keep a good image of themselves. There's nothing leftist about this. If anything, this is the result of pink capitalism, like most other media platforms have become in the last few years.

You might ask, "well, isn't ACAB also hate speech, then?". To which I can only say, "nice horseshoe." What it means is that the current system of policing is structured in such a way that requires all cops to be bastards, whether they like it or not. But saying that blacks are "scientifically inferior" is another thing in itself, because it attacks individuals, not unjust organizations (punching a dude neither makes an organization or unjust violence, however) or ideas. Vulnerable individuals, I may add.

Hate speech is a nonsensical categorization that is utterly at odds with the concept of free speech.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:38 am

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Prozitia wrote:Another horseshoe, I see. People will never get tired of this, will they? Now, Reddit moderation is indeed shit, but it's happening to leftists as well. Also, the reason hate speech is not free speech is because it agitates violence against an innocent group of people, whether directly or indirectly. But the libtards have taken this notion and turned it into a reason to censor people to keep a good image of themselves. There's nothing leftist about this. If anything, this is the result of pink capitalism, like most other media platforms have become in the last few years.

You might ask, "well, isn't ACAB also hate speech, then?". To which I can only say, "nice horseshoe." What it means is that the current system of policing is structured in such a way that requires all cops to be bastards, whether they like it or not. But saying that blacks are "scientifically inferior" is another thing in itself, because it attacks individuals, not unjust organizations (punching a dude neither makes an organization or unjust violence, however) or ideas. Vulnerable individuals, I may add.

Hate speech is a nonsensical categorization that is utterly at odds with the concept of free speech.

So you're perfectly fine with open calls to lynchings and pogroms?
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:40 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Prozitia wrote:Another horseshoe, I see. People will never get tired of this, will they? Now, Reddit moderation is indeed shit, but it's happening to leftists as well. Also, the reason hate speech is not free speech is because it agitates violence against an innocent group of people, whether directly or indirectly. But the libtards have taken this notion and turned it into a reason to censor people to keep a good image of themselves. There's nothing leftist about this. If anything, this is the result of pink capitalism, like most other media platforms have become in the last few years.

You might ask, "well, isn't ACAB also hate speech, then?". To which I can only say, "nice horseshoe." What it means is that the current system of policing is structured in such a way that requires all cops to be bastards, whether they like it or not. But saying that blacks are "scientifically inferior" is another thing in itself, because it attacks individuals, not unjust organizations (punching a dude neither makes an organization or unjust violence, however) or ideas. Vulnerable individuals, I may add.

Hate speech is a nonsensical categorization that is utterly at odds with the concept of free speech.


Especially Reddit's definition. What the hell counts as a "marginalised and vulnerable group"? And what does it mean to "promote hate based on identity or vulnerability"? Whatever the Reddit Admin wants it to mean, I guess. It covers basically anything under the Sun.
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Postby Nation Of Hats » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:42 am

imagine crying about reddit’s new policies

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:46 am

Nation Of Hats wrote:imagine crying about reddit’s new policies


Imagine not caring your rights are being violated because it's not the government who did it.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:47 am

Nation Of Hats wrote:imagine crying about reddit’s new policies


Imagine being this apathetic about free speech
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:52 am

Reddit spent years permitting and encouraging the formation of these hate communities for the same reason it is now trying to create the appearance of getting rid of them. Money. Reddit never cared about free speech and Reddit doesn't care about vulnerable minorities. It, like any business, exists only to make all the money.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:53 am

Just don’t use reddit, problem solved. Don’t ever look back.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 am

Nation Of Hats wrote:imagine crying about reddit’s new policies


It's almost as if some NSers use Reddit and are concerned about site-wide changes.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 am

Ifreann wrote:Reddit spent years permitting and encouraging the formation of these hate communities for the same reason it is now trying to create the appearance of getting rid of them. Money. Reddit never cared about free speech and Reddit doesn't care about vulnerable minorities. It, like any business, exists only to make all the money.


Which is why we should make political acts by corporations illegal.
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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 am

Purgatio wrote:
Nation Of Hats wrote:imagine crying about reddit’s new policies


Imagine being this apathetic about free speech

Nobody is stopping them from making their own websites. Hell, stormfront still exists.
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Postby New Bremerton » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 am

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The Emerald Legion wrote:White Fragility is a nonsense term used to pathologize the rather natural tendency of people to be upset when compared to literally Hitler.

I agree.


This exactly. It's a form of psychological gaslighting, a practice that is rampant in woke, far-left circles and the CCP alike to pathologize their critics and reverse the abuser-abused dynamic.

No State Here wrote:I just realized, Reddit did the subreddit purge the day before China passed their controversial Hong Kong law


Hmm. *thinking*
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:55 am

United Dependencies wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Imagine being this apathetic about free speech

Nobody is stopping them from making their own websites. Hell, stormfront still exists.

Most of the subreddits that were banned wouldn't exactly be welcome on stormfront.
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:56 am

United Dependencies wrote:
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Imagine being this apathetic about free speech

Nobody is stopping them from making their own websites. Hell, stormfront still exists.

I’m certain that got pulled due to the network, or whatever it’s called, hosting it getting pressured.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:57 am

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Ifreann wrote:Reddit spent years permitting and encouraging the formation of these hate communities for the same reason it is now trying to create the appearance of getting rid of them. Money. Reddit never cared about free speech and Reddit doesn't care about vulnerable minorities. It, like any business, exists only to make all the money.


Which is why we should make political acts by corporations illegal.

That would functionally make it impossible for corporations to do anything. Which sounds great to me but I suspect is not what you're aiming for.


United Dependencies wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Imagine being this apathetic about free speech

Nobody is stopping them from making their own websites. Hell, stormfront still exists.

Every time Reddit does something like this someone makes a new "free speech!" website.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:58 am

United Dependencies wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Imagine being this apathetic about free speech

Nobody is stopping them from making their own websites. Hell, stormfront still exists.


There's a far-right alternative already, called Voat. It's basically a haven for everyone who was banned from Reddit due to hate speech.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
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Which is why we should make political acts by corporations illegal.

That would functionally make it impossible for corporations to do anything. Which sounds great to me but I suspect is not what you're aiming for.


United Dependencies wrote:Nobody is stopping them from making their own websites. Hell, stormfront still exists.

Every time Reddit does something like this someone makes a new "free speech!" website.

Saidit.net has been around for years. When I went to the website its servers couldn't cope with the amount of account requests.
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