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by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:40 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:44 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:47 am
Diopolis wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:I really dont know how to feel about this. On one hand it could be true and Trump may be like "I don't care," but on the other hand we've had many people in our government trying to go to war with Russia for years now (Hillary Clinton wanting to establish a no fly zone over Syria and suggesting we bomb the Russian navy), which is downright fucking stupid considering that they got nuclear arms.
Trump and Russia have a vested interest in denying it, although I can't imagine Trump keeping his mouth shut about it if he was briefed. It just seems too juicy for him to keep the secret.
The taliban also has denied this bounty thing, which adds to my priors that it's not actually a thing that happened.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:49 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:02 am
by Ansarre » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:24 am
by Anthony Scaramucci Autonomous Zone » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:53 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Anthony Scaramucci Autonomous Zone wrote:Uhh have you heard of Ronald Reagan? Even if you don’t consider him a neocon, I mean it is a term of art, his administration was full of people we generally associate with the movement.
I said the neocons we have now. Imagine John Bolton as president in 1980 and tell me you don't see the inevitable end of the world.
by Panslavicland » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:54 am
by Vassenor » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 am
Panslavicland wrote:I'm not one to believe something just because the globalists in American intelligence agencies claim it to be true, so for now as far as I'm concerned it didn't happen. But if it had happened it certainly seems like a smart move on Russia's part, both damaging to America's interests in the wider region with no real adverse consequences in return.
by Shofercia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:17 pm
Anthony Scaramucci Autonomous Zone wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:I really dont know how to feel about this. On one hand it could be true and Trump may be like "I don't care," but on the other hand we've had many people in our government trying to go to war with Russia for years now (Hillary Clinton wanting to establish a no fly zone over Syria and suggesting we bomb the Russian navy), which is downright fucking stupid considering that they got nuclear arms.
If many of the neocons we have now were running the government in 1980, I guarantee you the entire world would have been destroyed in a single day by a nuclear war. These loonies would have fired the damn WMDs.
Uhh have you heard of Ronald Reagan? Even if you don’t consider him a neocon, I mean it is a term of art, his administration was full of people we generally associate with the movement.
Anthony Scaramucci Autonomous Zone wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
I said the neocons we have now. Imagine John Bolton as president in 1980 and tell me you don't see the inevitable end of the world.
John Bolton is considered by many not to be a real neocon because he isn’t that much into democracy promotion but the neocons of the 80’s were not really any less interventionist anyway.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:53 pm
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:52 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:53 pm
Anthony Scaramucci Autonomous Zone wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
I said the neocons we have now. Imagine John Bolton as president in 1980 and tell me you don't see the inevitable end of the world.
John Bolton is considered by many not to be a real neocon because he isn’t that much into democracy promotion but the neocons of the 80’s were not really any less interventionist anyway.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Sovereign Realist State » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:55 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:05 pm
The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Russia denies it, White House denies it, Taliban deny it... as if they needed any added incentive to kill US troops.
by Atheris » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:12 pm
The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Russia denies it, White House denies it, Taliban deny it... as if they needed any added incentive to kill US troops.
No evidence presented either way.
My advice for Ansarre is to stop watching CNN and start watching Russia Today. Not many neocons there but ...certainly more reliable than the NYT these days.
...That is the same NYT that came out to clarify that #DefundThePolice literally meant doing away with the police and not reforming it.
The same NYT that pushed Iraq WMD and Russiagate propaganda for years.
The same NYT that proudly employs anti-white racists.
The same NYT that publishes Paul Krugman after he has been wrong about everything for the past decade from anti-austerity to the coming economic crashes following Brexit and Trump.........
Of course, Ansarre would prefer to believe this report is true because Russia is the neocons public enemy #1.
But just like Russiagate, Ukrainegate, and all the other fake scandals, this is one more story that turns the NYT into a hackery rag without the slightest shred of credibility.
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/bey ... sia-story/
But hey, Hillary had a 95% chance of winning so ...what do I know?.......................
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:15 pm
Atheris wrote:The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Russia denies it, White House denies it, Taliban deny it... as if they needed any added incentive to kill US troops.
No evidence presented either way.
My advice for Ansarre is to stop watching CNN and start watching Russia Today. Not many neocons there but ...certainly more reliable than the NYT these days.
...That is the same NYT that came out to clarify that #DefundThePolice literally meant doing away with the police and not reforming it.
The same NYT that pushed Iraq WMD and Russiagate propaganda for years.
The same NYT that proudly employs anti-white racists.
The same NYT that publishes Paul Krugman after he has been wrong about everything for the past decade from anti-austerity to the coming economic crashes following Brexit and Trump.........
Of course, Ansarre would prefer to believe this report is true because Russia is the neocons public enemy #1.
But just like Russiagate, Ukrainegate, and all the other fake scandals, this is one more story that turns the NYT into a hackery rag without the slightest shred of credibility.
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/bey ... sia-story/
But hey, Hillary had a 95% chance of winning so ...what do I know?.......................
...I read Washington Post.
by The Sovereign Realist State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:10 am
Atheris wrote:...I read Washington Post.
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Not 100% owned by Russia? That's fake news you're reading.
by Novus America » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:15 am
The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Atheris wrote:...I read Washington Post.Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Not 100% owned by Russia? That's fake news you're reading.
It is: https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/bey ... sia-story/
After so many hoaxes about Russia, and employing the ludicrous Jennifer Rubin,
After all the #fakenews about Trump such as the recent self-own /?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fpolitics%2f2020%2f06%2f25%2ftrump-keeps-claiming-that-most-dangerous-cities-america-are-all-run-by-democrats-they-arent%2f
After all the lies about police brutality and college campus rape....
Why would you pay money to buy propaganda?
Oh Russia does propaganda too but the problem is you leftists only read mainstream progressive sources. FOX News and Breitbart are mostly right-wing.
RT is actually quite balanced: they have pro-establishment, marxists, conservatives, etc. They are even anti-Israel, you should like that I guess.
At least watch Jimmy Dore or smth
by Baltenstein » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:48 am
The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Atheris wrote:...I read Washington Post.Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Not 100% owned by Russia? That's fake news you're reading.
It is: https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/bey ... sia-story/
After so many hoaxes about Russia, and employing the ludicrous Jennifer Rubin,
After all the #fakenews about Trump such as the recent self-own,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... hey-arent/
After all the lies about police brutality and college campus rape....
Why would you pay money to buy propaganda?
Oh Russia does propaganda too but the problem is you leftists only read mainstream progressive sources. FOX News and Breitbart are mostly right-wing.
RT is actually quite balanced: they have pro-establishment, marxists, conservatives, etc. They are even anti-Israel, you should like that I guess.
At least watch Jimmy Dore or smth
by The Sovereign Realist State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:32 pm
Baltenstein wrote:Nervermind the fact that RT's own journos quit their jobs while live on-air because there is a human limit to how much agitprop you can parrot with a straight face.
by The Sovereign Realist State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Novus America wrote:RT is not balanced at all.
Novus America wrote:It exists simply to extol Russia and trash the west..
Novus America wrote: Sure there is a horseshoe of left and far right willing to trash the west and extoll Russia, and RT will take ANYONE willing to trash the west and extoll Russia, regardless of their other positions. Without any real attempt at fact checking because that is irrelevant. It merely exists to muddy the waters, and thus is not useful for clarification of what is actually happening.
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