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by The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:41 pm
by Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:48 pm
by -Astoria- » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:59 am
If you can't find a source, then it's highly likely that it's a load of bull.
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by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:10 am
by Jello Biafra » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:24 am
Hrythingland wrote:Mostly because it is the attitude of many activists that: 'you must apologise and also accept that even with apologies and reparations it won't be enough'.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:27 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:-Astoria- wrote:If you can't find a source, then it's highly likely that it's a load of bull.
Something happened in September last year, but I can't find any resolution to it.
When the best source I can find is Russian-government owned it's probably fake news.
by Ostroeuropa » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:36 am
Jello Biafra wrote:Hrythingland wrote:Mostly because it is the attitude of many activists that: 'you must apologise and also accept that even with apologies and reparations it won't be enough'.
I very much doubt that most Jewish people view the apologies and reparations that (West) Germany paid as being 'enough' to make up for the Holocaust. There's no 'Now we're even' there. Nonetheless, this doesn't mean that Germany shouldn't have tried to make up for the Holocaust. Similarly, the horrible things done as part of colonalism and slavery/racist laws aren't going to be evened out via apologies and reparations. This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be an attempt made.
by Hrythingland » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:48 am
Jello Biafra wrote:Hrythingland wrote:Mostly because it is the attitude of many activists that: 'you must apologise and also accept that even with apologies and reparations it won't be enough'.
I very much doubt that most Jewish people view the apologies and reparations that (West) Germany paid as being 'enough' to make up for the Holocaust. There's no 'Now we're even' there. Nonetheless, this doesn't mean that Germany shouldn't have tried to make up for the Holocaust. Similarly, the horrible things done as part of colonalism and slavery/racist laws aren't going to be evened out via apologies and reparations. This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be an attempt made.
by Baltenstein » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:00 am
Hrythingland wrote:Jello Biafra wrote:I very much doubt that most Jewish people view the apologies and reparations that (West) Germany paid as being 'enough' to make up for the Holocaust. There's no 'Now we're even' there. Nonetheless, this doesn't mean that Germany shouldn't have tried to make up for the Holocaust. Similarly, the horrible things done as part of colonalism and slavery/racist laws aren't going to be evened out via apologies and reparations. This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be an attempt made.
I disagree. There's no point in apologising to someone not willing to accept it. And there's certainly little point in apologising for history in general. I'm happy to put my hands up and say that my predecessors got in wrong in places like Ireland and India but I'm not going to apologise for having an empire or my ancestors doing what they could to further the renown of their people. Almost every 'people' worth mentioning in history owe other peoples an apology yet we're only really demanding it from Europeans. A few more consistent actors shake their fist at the Japanese and Turks but that's about it. No one rails at Mongolia or Arabs and whatnot. People see this for what it is which is an anti-white invective. That we should take a knee, move aside, apologise, make amends, dismantle our own societies.
by Hrythingland » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:57 am
Baltenstein wrote:Hrythingland wrote:I disagree. There's no point in apologising to someone not willing to accept it. And there's certainly little point in apologising for history in general. I'm happy to put my hands up and say that my predecessors got in wrong in places like Ireland and India but I'm not going to apologise for having an empire or my ancestors doing what they could to further the renown of their people. Almost every 'people' worth mentioning in history owe other peoples an apology yet we're only really demanding it from Europeans. A few more consistent actors shake their fist at the Japanese and Turks but that's about it. No one rails at Mongolia or Arabs and whatnot. People see this for what it is which is an anti-white invective. That we should take a knee, move aside, apologise, make amends, dismantle our own societies.
To be fair though, modern Mongolia is a dirt-poor nation of like 2 million people in the middle of the Eurasian nowhere. It's kinda hard to shake your fist at people you have to remind yourself actually exist.
by Gravlen » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:15 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Something happened in September last year, but I can't find any resolution to it.
When the best source I can find is Russian-government owned it's probably fake news.
The linked source has promoted fake news before. So, that definitely is fake news.
by -Astoria- » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:55 am
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by Auristania » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:23 pm
Kowani wrote:I know nothing about British speech law.
Could the OP cite some statue which was violated?
by The Reformed American Republic » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:41 pm
by Kowani » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:04 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:
•Whiteness needs to be abolished. It is a concept that killed millions.
•Arab identity needs to be abolished. It's a concept that killed millions.
by Kowani » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:08 pm
Hrythingland wrote:Baltenstein wrote:
To be fair though, modern Mongolia is a dirt-poor nation of like 2 million people in the middle of the Eurasian nowhere. It's kinda hard to shake your fist at people you have to remind yourself actually exist.
Its not quite dirt poor. And they recently erected a monstrously huge steel statue to Genghis Khan. Good, to be honest. They have nothing to be ashamed of either.
by New Bremerton » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:57 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:New Bremerton wrote:Compare Cambridge U's tepid defense of a woke, openly and shamelessly racist professor to how quickly the university condemned and disowned David Starkey's remarks on slavery and his criticism of BLM and woke, cancel culture and how quickly the BBC and Twitter descended on him like a ton of bricks. He is being "struggled against" and crucified by a woke, middle-class proletariat for far less than the much more overtly racist tweets made by Priyamvada Gopal, who has opted to double down on her disgusting, anti-white views and pretend she's some kind of victim of harassment. Free speech for me but not for thee.
You should quote David Starkey's remarks, if you really mean to make a fair comparison. All of them if you please.
by -Astoria- » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:26 am
New Bremerton wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You should quote David Starkey's remarks, if you really mean to make a fair comparison. All of them if you please.
I didn't link to the article? Here it is:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53279273
Starkey told an online show hosted by conservative commentator Darren Grimes that slavery was not genocide, because of the survival of "so many damn blacks".
In it, Starkey said: "Slavery was not genocide otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or Britain would there? An awful lot of them survived."
He also claimed that the Black Lives Matter protests, following the death of George Floyd, had been characterised by "violence" and "victimhood".
He described cancel culture and the pulling down of statues as "deranged".
The show's host tweeted on Thursday: "I reject in the strongest possible terms what Dr Starkey said in that clip and so very wish I'd caught it at the time. I am still learning the ropes, I will be much more alert to challenging this kind of thing in future."
It's not the first time Starkey has been involved in a public race row.
In 2011, the BBC received nearly 700 complaints about Starkey's claim that "whites have become black", during a Newsnight discussion about riots in the UK.
"What has happened is that the substantial section of the chavs that you wrote about have become black. The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion," he said.
"Black and white, boy and girl operate in this language together. This language, which is wholly false, which is this Jamaican patois that has intruded in England. This is why so many of us have this sense of literally a foreign country."
Starkey then referred to David Lammy, the Labour MP for Tottenham, whom he described as "an archetypal successful black man". He said Lammy sounded white. "If you turn the screen off, so you were listening to him on radio, you would think he was white." Lammy called Starkey's remarks "dangerous and divisive".
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by Alien Overlord » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:43 am
Hrythingland wrote:Baltenstein wrote:
To be fair though, modern Mongolia is a dirt-poor nation of like 2 million people in the middle of the Eurasian nowhere. It's kinda hard to shake your fist at people you have to remind yourself actually exist.
Its not quite dirt poor. And they recently erected a monstrously huge steel statue to Genghis Khan. Good, to be honest. They have nothing to be ashamed of either.
Hrythingland wrote:Jello Biafra wrote:I very much doubt that most Jewish people view the apologies and reparations that (West) Germany paid as being 'enough' to make up for the Holocaust. There's no 'Now we're even' there. Nonetheless, this doesn't mean that Germany shouldn't have tried to make up for the Holocaust. Similarly, the horrible things done as part of colonalism and slavery/racist laws aren't going to be evened out via apologies and reparations. This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be an attempt made.
I disagree. There's no point in apologising to someone not willing to accept it. And there's certainly little point in apologising for history in general. I'm happy to put my hands up and say that my predecessors got in wrong in places like Ireland and India but I'm not going to apologise for having an empire or my ancestors doing what they could to further the renown of their people. Almost every 'people' worth mentioning in history owe other peoples an apology yet we're only really demanding it from Europeans. A few more consistent actors shake their fist at the Japanese and Turks but that's about it. No one rails at Mongolia or Arabs and whatnot. People see this for what it is which is an anti-white invective. That we should take a knee, move aside, apologise, make amends, dismantle our own societies.
No. I apologise for nothing. Partly because we did what we needed to do in the global game of dog eat dog and partly because in my personal case most of my ancestors were either crawling through a Welsh coal mine or farming kelp in a Highland croft. A few served as cavalry in places like Crimea, India and Africa but they were just rank and file not officers. I feel no shame and only a little bit of pity.
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by Jello Biafra » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:29 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Jello Biafra wrote:I very much doubt that most Jewish people view the apologies and reparations that (West) Germany paid as being 'enough' to make up for the Holocaust. There's no 'Now we're even' there. Nonetheless, this doesn't mean that Germany shouldn't have tried to make up for the Holocaust. Similarly, the horrible things done as part of colonalism and slavery/racist laws aren't going to be evened out via apologies and reparations. This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be an attempt made.
Germany paid the victims of the holocaust. It didn't pay all jews everywhere because it had done a crime against "The Jews". There's a reason for that, let's see if you can figure it out and why this makes the notion of reperations nonsense.
We already give foreign aid to poor nations.
by Jello Biafra » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:41 am
Hrythingland wrote:I disagree. There's no point in apologising to someone not willing to accept it.
And there's certainly little point in apologising for history in general.
I'm happy to put my hands up and say that my predecessors got in wrong in places like Ireland and India but I'm not going to apologise for having an empire or my ancestors doing what they could to further the renown of their people.
Almost every 'people' worth mentioning in history owe other peoples an apology yet we're only really demanding it from Europeans. A few more consistent actors shake their fist at the Japanese and Turks but that's about it. No one rails at Mongolia or Arabs and whatnot. People see this for what it is which is an anti-white invective. That we should take a knee, move aside, apologise, make amends, dismantle our own societies.
No. I apologise for nothing. Partly because we did what we needed to do in the global game of dog eat dog and partly because in my personal case most of my ancestors were either crawling through a Welsh coal mine or farming kelp in a Highland croft. A few served as cavalry in places like Crimea, India and Africa but they were just rank and file not officers. I feel no shame and only a little bit of pity.
by Doom Legions » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:01 am
by -Astoria- » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:19 am
Doom Legions wrote:People can be openly racist against whites and get praise for it, yet racism against any other race gets you torn to shreds by the mob.
Yet somehow white privilige still exists.
Ok.
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