Kosovo president indicted as war criminal, resists

[Gormwood]

Definitely.

The only way Kosovo was ever part of Serbia is if we assumed that all the people in Kosovo were Serbs who were Albanianized under Tito, which is incredibly ludicrous.

Serbia strangely acts very similar to Turkey, a country they're not fond of.

Basically they kill anyone who isn't them, and occupy land that they don't really live in.

Competetion.

[Kubra]

Hottest take: Serbia is Kosovo, and Kosovo should annex it.

Just like how Argentina loves to point out how close it is to the Falklands; if we fellow their own logic the Falklands government should annex Buenos Aires because "it's close".

hooooo boy I like how you think
Falklands irredentism when

[SD_Film Artists]

Kosovo and war crimes? Impossible. Everyone knows that we (America and NATO) either help the innocent or completely mess up by arming our future enemies; nothing in between. Kosovo not conducting a guerrilla war against America is proof that they're on the right side of the binary system *nods*

Just like how Argentina loves to point out how close it is to the Falklands; if we fellow their own logic the Falklands government should annex Buenos Aires because "it's close".

hooooo boy I like how you think
Falklands irredentism when

Sheep need plenty of living space.

[Bear Stearns]

Kosovo is not a country. It is an economic zone designed to provide justification to a massive US military base located in Serbian territory.

[SD_Film Artists]

Kosovo is not a country. It is an economic zone designed to provide justification to a massive US military base located in Serbian territory.

The US can already place a military base anywhere in Western/Central Europe. Is Kosovo really such a hot piece of real estate? IIRC some of the bases they already have are closed or closing with there being no cold war.

[Kubra]

Kosovo and war crimes? Impossible. Everyone knows that we (America and NATO) either help the innocent or completely mess up by arming our future enemies; nothing in between. Kosovo not conducting a guerrilla war against America is proof that they're on the right side of the binary system *nods*

hooooo boy I like how you think
Falklands irredentism when

Sheep need plenty of living space.

I think you mean LEBENSRAUM

[Grenartia]

Balkanization was a mistake.

[Dangine]

So what happens to Kosovo if the president is convicted? Do they elect a new president or does Serbia come in for the taking?

[Bear Stearns]

Kosovo is not a country. It is an economic zone designed to provide justification to a massive US military base located in Serbian territory.

The US can already place a military base anywhere in Western/Central Europe. Is Kosovo really such a hot piece of real estate? IIRC some of the bases they already have are closed or closing with there being no cold war.

It's not that Kosovo is strategically located (it's not), it's that having troops there means we can take out any Serbian government that gets too pro-Russian and keep the Russians from having a presence in the region.

Also because Kosovo is an artificial state entirely beholden to the United States, it means their government will basically do whatever we tell them, including looking the other way when our base is used for torture. It's nice to have puppet states. Our base in Kosovo is so big it has a small town inside of it.

[-The Watcher]

Funny how such a small region can be such a hellhole.

[Loben The 2nd]

Balkanization was a mistake.

it was going to happen, like it or not.

[Saiwania]

Kosovo is an actual country if the facts on the ground currently support that in terms of who is governing it. If its like Tibet where they're clearly occupied or controlled by another government and military, then it doesn't meet the criteria for sovereignty in my view.

I can't properly consider it to be Serbian territory so long as Serbia has no military presence there and if Serbia isn't administering it. If they invade tomorrow and successfully hold onto the place, that could change. Much like how most would consider Crimea to be Russian territory now.

[Shofercia]

Kosovo is Serbia, both legally and by right. Kosovo would not be separate from Serbia if it were not for the NATO invasion (complete with depleted uranium bombing). It is occupied by an illegal drug-trading regime.

>depleted uranium bombing

You do realise that isn't a thing, right?

So if depleted uranium bombing isn't a thing, and the US is only supporting Freedom Fighters in Syria, you'd have no objections to Russians bombing insurgents in Syria with depleted uranium, right Vass? After all, according to you, neither is a thing.

[Novus America]

Hottest take: Serbia is Kosovo, and Kosovo should annex it.

Ironically that might actually be what would happen.
Given Serbs have a lower birth rate, one of the lowest in the world, it is not really demographically viable for Serbia to actually annex most of Kosovo. Unless it wants to become a Serb minority country long term.

So Serbia talks about how Kosovo is Serbia and blah blah blah, to score political points. But they really do not want to actually bring in over a million Albanians.

Besides the Serb dominated four municipalities of North Kosovo, Serbia does not really want to take the rest. Short of outright genocide/ethnic cleansing (which is obviously bad)it is simply not viable.

[Slavakino]

Welcome to the Balkans. Everyone is a war criminal, but anyways, Kosovo je Srbija

[Slavakino]

Kosovo is Serbia, both legally and by right. Kosovo would not be separate from Serbia if it were not for the NATO invasion (complete with depleted uranium bombing). It is occupied by an illegal drug-trading regime.

>depleted uranium bombing

You do realise that isn't a thing, right?

Dirty bombs exist for a reason. My mum was there to experience undetonated bombs being dropped in Belgrade and Kragujevac. I dare you to deny first-hand experience Vass, stop going into debates you don't understand. The USA needs to get a trial for their crimes during the war

[Shofercia]

Hottest take: Serbia is Kosovo, and Kosovo should annex it.

Ironically that might actually be what would happen.
Given Serbs have a lower birth rate, one of the lowest in the world, it is not really demographically viable for Serbia to actually annex most of Kosovo. Unless it wants to become a Serb minority country long term.

So Serbia talks about how Kosovo is Serbia and blah blah blah, to score political points. But they really do not want to actually bring in over a million Albanians.

Besides the Serb dominated four municipalities of North Kosovo, Serbia does not really want to take the rest. Short of outright genocide/ethnic cleansing (which is obviously bad)it is simply not viable.

There are over 5.7 million Serbs in Serbia and roughly 1.8 million Albanians in Kosovo, so unless you're talking about the very, very, very long term... but birthrates all over Europe are falling. So to use that logic that you're proposing, should European countries stop taking immigrants with high birthrates?

[Bear Stearns]

What a great American ally whose country we need to shill for to protect our interests. I'm really glad the US fights for freedom and democracy around the world.

[Modern Soviet Union]

Balkanization was a mistake.

Yup. I wish for south slavs to unite together again, but something else would have to be done this time around. Except, I have no idea what would be done. Honestly, I don't think anyone has an idea lol.

I honestly think they would all be better off if they managed to form some sort of confederation out of it, with an emphasis on ethnic autonomy.

Kosovo and war crimes? Impossible. Everyone knows that we (America and NATO) either help the innocent or completely mess up by arming our future enemies; nothing in between. Kosovo not conducting a guerrilla war against America is proof that they're on the right side of the binary system *nods*

Even though you're joking, I wouldn't be surprised if American news networks reported it that way.

[Slavakino]

Hottest take: Serbia is Kosovo, and Kosovo should annex it.

Ironically that might actually be what would happen.
Given Serbs have a lower birth rate, one of the lowest in the world, it is not really demographically viable for Serbia to actually annex most of Kosovo. Unless it wants to become a Serb minority country long term.

So Serbia talks about how Kosovo is Serbia and blah blah blah, to score political points. But they really do not want to actually bring in over a million Albanians.

Besides the Serb dominated four municipalities of North Kosovo, Serbia does not really want to take the rest. Short of outright genocide/ethnic cleansing (which is obviously bad)it is simply not viable.

1.5 isn't low for a birthrate. It's not like the middle east or Africa where they have like 5 children.

[Novus America]

Ironically that might actually be what would happen.
Given Serbs have a lower birth rate, one of the lowest in the world, it is not really demographically viable for Serbia to actually annex most of Kosovo. Unless it wants to become a Serb minority country long term.

So Serbia talks about how Kosovo is Serbia and blah blah blah, to score political points. But they really do not want to actually bring in over a million Albanians.

Besides the Serb dominated four municipalities of North Kosovo, Serbia does not really want to take the rest. Short of outright genocide/ethnic cleansing (which is obviously bad)it is simply not viable.

1.5 isn't low for a birthrate. It's not like the middle east or Africa where they have like 5 children.

It is still well below replacement, amongst the lowest.
Serbia’s population is declining rapidly. As such bringing in a very large percentage of the population as a hostile and growing ethnic minority that has no desire to be part makes little sense.

Serbia cannot realistically take Kosovo (other than the 4 Serbian municipalities of North Kosovo maybe) and its leadership knows it.
They will not admit it, but they know it. Kosovo is not going to be part of Serbia again.

[Slavakino]

1.5 isn't low for a birthrate. It's not like the middle east or Africa where they have like 5 children.

It is still well below replacement, amongst the lowest.
Serbia’s population is declining rapidly. As such bringing in a very large percentage of the population as a hostile and growing ethnic minority that has no desire to be part makes little sense.

Serbia cannot realistically take Kosovo (other than the 4 Serbian municipalities of North Kosovo maybe) and its leadership knows it.
They will not admit it, but they know it. Kosovo is not going to be part of Serbia again.

I doubt Serbia's population is declining. You got countries like South Korea who have lower birthrates and their population is still growing but slowly. Kosovo is a political backdoor for the USA to show how "awesome" they are and liberators when in fact they are just supporting terrorists

[Bear Stearns]

I wonder what exactly the US interest in Serbia is :^)

[Slavakino]

I wonder what exactly the US interest in Serbia is :^)

Most Americans seem to think all Serbs are savage subhuman rapists or something due to PMC's and self-declared nations committing war crimes

[Novus America]

It is still well below replacement, amongst the lowest.
Serbia’s population is declining rapidly. As such bringing in a very large percentage of the population as a hostile and growing ethnic minority that has no desire to be part makes little sense.

Serbia cannot realistically take Kosovo (other than the 4 Serbian municipalities of North Kosovo maybe) and its leadership knows it.
They will not admit it, but they know it. Kosovo is not going to be part of Serbia again.

I doubt Serbia's population is declining. You got countries like South Korea who have lower birthrates and their population is still growing but slowly. Kosovo is a political backdoor for the USA to show how "awesome" they are and liberators when in fact they are just supporting terrorists

Dude, really?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.india. ... 79797/amp/
It has one of the fastest rates of population decline.
Even the Serbian government acknowledges it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.serbia ... inues/amp/

It is a simple fact.

Birth rates are complicated, your population dies not start falling immediately because of something called population momentum. The issue is Serbia has has below replacement rates since 1956, while South Korea kept above replacement until 1982.

Plus it is not just birth rates but emigration as well.

Serbia is a shrinking country.

And the issue in Kosovo is much more complicated than that, not all Albanians in Kosovo are terrorists. And regardless they simply do not want to be part of Serbia, and Serbia has no realistic way to change that.