Is CANZUK viable?

[Rusozak]

Doesn't the Commonwealth already sort of fulfill that purpose? I'm seriously asking. I'm not sure what kind of relationship exists between Commonwealth nations.

[Britannia Maior]

Though I support a British gunboat approach to foreign policy, I get what you mean. It shouldn’t be considered a Neo-British Empire.

As much as I love the Brits and the Queen, I do value Canadian independence and sovereignty. That's why I choose to support the economic and immigration parts of CANZUK

I understand what you mean. I imagine you mean in a manner akin to the EU and its member-states?

[Ansarre]

Not only is it viable, but CANZUK needs to happen NOW and with the set aim of future unification into a single federal political entity.

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES
4. Unlikely that Ireland would ever want back in, and I wouldn't try and push it on them, but they'd be welcome as a fellow English speaking nation with a similar culture.
5. CANZUK would do fine in the political alliance stage. But it should be changed post-unification into a single polity. Federal Anglosphere, Anglospheric Commonwealth, British Empire. Many possibilities!

We don't have much in common with the predominantly south Asian culture of the UK

Totally unfunny.

[Britannia Maior]

Not only is it viable, but CANZUK needs to happen NOW and with the set aim of future unification into a single federal political entity.

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES
4. Unlikely that Ireland would ever want back in, and I wouldn't try and push it on them, but they'd be welcome as a fellow English speaking nation with a similar culture.
5. CANZUK would do fine in the political alliance stage. But it should be changed post-unification into a single polity. Federal Anglosphere, Anglospheric Commonwealth, British Empire. Many possibilities!

We don't have much in common with the predominantly south Asian culture of the UK

Totally unfunny.

I believe naming it the Imperial Federation would be best as it would help support monarchist and unifying imperial sentiment.

[Kazakah]

Not only is it viable, but CANZUK needs to happen NOW and with the set aim of future unification into a single federal political entity.

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES
4. Unlikely that Ireland would ever want back in, and I wouldn't try and push it on them, but they'd be welcome as a fellow English speaking nation with a similar culture.
5. CANZUK would do fine in the political alliance stage. But it should be changed post-unification into a single polity. Federal Anglosphere, Anglospheric Commonwealth, British Empire. Many possibilities!


Totally unfunny.

I believe naming it the Imperial Federation would be best as it would help support monarchist and unifying imperial sentiment.

How common are those views in the UK?

[Britannia Maior]

I believe naming it the Imperial Federation would be best as it would help support monarchist and unifying imperial sentiment.

How common are those views in the UK?

I personally do not believe they’re particularly widespread, which I consider most unfortunate. The driving forces I've seen for myself seem to be social liberalism, social justice, anti-colonialism and soft republicanism. I do wish this was not the case and that my country was much stronger in its support for the monarchy and our imperial legacy.

Granted I live on a council estate and whatnot, so I cannot say I know it’s different elsewhere.

[-Mamma Mia-]

How common are those views in the UK?

I personally do not believe they’re particularly widespread, which I consider most unfortunate. The driving forces I've seen for myself seem to be social liberalism, social justice, anti-colonialism and soft republicanism. I do wish this was not the case and that my country was much stronger in its support for the monarchy and our imperial legacy.

Granted I live on a council estate and whatnot, so I cannot say I know it’s different elsewhere.

Um, wot?

[The Huskar Social Union]

I would support a CANZUK federation, but possibly include other countries like Ireland or India.

Ireland would more than likely never express any interest in joining.

[Ansarre]

How common are those views in the UK?

According to the most recent Gougov poll, 70% of the population describe themselves as monarchists. I've seen polls as high as 81% but I lean towards believing 70% is pretty accurate.

[Deltia-]

I support CANZUK, but include South Africa and Ireland as well.

[Britannia Maior]

How common are those views in the UK?

According to the most recent Gougov poll, 70% of the population describe themselves as monarchists. I've seen polls as high as 81% but I lean towards believing 70% is pretty accurate.

I personally hope this lasts beyond the reign of HM Queen Elizabeth II (Long May She Reign). HH Prince Charles is more of a traditional monarchist as far as I am aware, though I will admit that I haven’t followed up everything about him.

[Britannia Maior]

I support CANZUK, but include South Africa and Ireland as well.

I highly doubt either would even entertain the idea. We (the English) have more than screwed any hopes of that given how we treated the Irish, and neither the Afrikaners nor the Black South Africans will support it from our colonial history and grievances between us and the Boers.

[Luziyca]

I don't know if it would be viable, but we should give it a try, if only so Canada will not be as dominated by America. Hell, I'd include the rest of the Commonwealth in it too.

[Prizea]

Not only is it viable, but CANZUK needs to happen NOW and with the set aim of future unification into a single federal political entity.

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES
4. Unlikely that Ireland would ever want back in, and I wouldn't try and push it on them, but they'd be welcome as a fellow English speaking nation with a similar culture.
5. CANZUK would do fine in the political alliance stage. But it should be changed post-unification into a single polity. Federal Anglosphere, Anglospheric Commonwealth, British Empire. Many possibilities!


Totally unfunny.

I believe naming it the Imperial Federation would be best as it would help support monarchist and unifying imperial sentiment.

Even as a monarchist and a Unionist, I think that is a dumb hill to die on. Trying to persuade people to join a “Imperial Federation” is an uphill battle at the best of times, and saddles the whole thing with a lot of unnecessary baggage. You are much better off going for a less loaded name, and making it clear that any potential capital would absolutely not be in London.

[Britannia Maior]

I don't know if it would be viable, but we should give it a try, if only so Canada will not be as dominated by America. Hell, I'd include the rest of the Commonwealth in it too.

Yes on the first part, not really on the second. There’s too much cultural difference between the Anglo nations and our former possessions in Africa, India and so on. I can’t imagine the chaos if the union became a single polity with all those nations.

[Britannia Maior]

I believe naming it the Imperial Federation would be best as it would help support monarchist and unifying imperial sentiment.

Even as a monarchist and a Unionist, I think that is a dumb hill to die on. Trying to persuade people to join a “Imperial Federation” is an uphill battle at the best of times, and saddles the whole thing with a lot of unnecessary baggage. You are much better off going for a less loaded name, and making it clear that any potential capital would absolutely not be in London.

Why not? London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense unless we’re pulling an Australia and building an entirely new capital.

[The Archbishopric of York]

I don't see any practical benefit to the UK from such a union.

[Kazakah]

Even as a monarchist and a Unionist, I think that is a dumb hill to die on. Trying to persuade people to join a “Imperial Federation” is an uphill battle at the best of times, and saddles the whole thing with a lot of unnecessary baggage. You are much better off going for a less loaded name, and making it clear that any potential capital would absolutely not be in London.

Why not? London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense unless we’re pulling an Australia and building an entirely new capital.

I think it makes more sense to have a rotating capital as to ensure that no one country receives preferential treatment or begins to dominate the alliance

[The Huskar Social Union]

Even as a monarchist and a Unionist, I think that is a dumb hill to die on. Trying to persuade people to join a “Imperial Federation” is an uphill battle at the best of times, and saddles the whole thing with a lot of unnecessary baggage. You are much better off going for a less loaded name, and making it clear that any potential capital would absolutely not be in London.

Why not? London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense unless we’re pulling an Australia and building an entirely new capital.

"Imperial federation" "London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense"

Yeah you just want the Empire back.

[Britannia Maior]

Why not? London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense unless we’re pulling an Australia and building an entirely new capital.

"Imperial federation" "London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense"

Yeah you just want the Empire back.

Maybe, maybe not. I’d say London ought to be the capital given all the nations connections to London, it’s status as a global city and world hub, and the political weight it has in comparison to other candidates.

[The Huskar Social Union]

"Imperial federation" "London is perfectly suited as the capital and really the only one that makes sense"

Yeah you just want the Empire back.

Maybe, maybe not. I’d say London ought to be the capital given all the nations connections to London, it’s status as a global city and world hub, and the political weight it has in comparison to other candidates.

Or it could be a rotating capital like Kazakah said so it doesnt feel like its just the UK dominating the whole thing and that the other nations are actually equal partners. Or a rotating head or something

[The Two Jerseys]

So it's Commonwealth of Nations Zero: same great British Empire taste, but with zero added useless third world countries.

[Kazakah]

Maybe, maybe not. I’d say London ought to be the capital given all the nations connections to London, it’s status as a global city and world hub, and the political weight it has in comparison to other candidates.

Or it could be a rotating capital like Kazakah said so it doesnt feel like its just the UK dominating the whole thing and that the other nations are actually equal partners. Or a rotating head or something

Exactly my thoughts. Every five or so years, the capital (if it could be called that or even needs one) would relocate. (e.g. Toronto-->Auckland-->London-->Sydney, repeat) Besides, the UK is already an international heavyweight

[Vedan 11]

Would such a thing really even need a Capitol? If I'm not mistaken the CANZUK idea is just favorable immigration and trade laws between the participating nations, it's not like they are relinquishing there sovereignty to form a new country or something.

[Britannia Maior]

Maybe, maybe not. I’d say London ought to be the capital given all the nations connections to London, it’s status as a global city and world hub, and the political weight it has in comparison to other candidates.

Or it could be a rotating capital like Kazakah said so it doesnt feel like its just the UK dominating the whole thing and that the other nations are actually equal partners. Or a rotating head or something

I will say that the idea has merit. I’m just personally a bit uncertain how it would work, though I think Kazakah prefers an EU-like structure rather than the single polity idea.

Or it could be a rotating capital like Kazakah said so it doesnt feel like its just the UK dominating the whole thing and that the other nations are actually equal partners. Or a rotating head or something

Exactly my thoughts. Every five or so years, the capital (if it could be called that or even needs one) would relocate. (e.g. Toronto-->Auckland-->London-->Sydney, repeat) Besides, the UK is already an international heavyweight

That’s true, but how would it locate? Would it just be a ceremonial thing where all the member-states gather or something more?