Why you should eat Biblical apple

[Hurdergaryp]

The "Parable of the Talents", in Matthew 25:14–30 tells of a master who was leaving his house to travel, and, before leaving, entrusted his property to his servants. ... The property entrusted to the three servants was worth 8 talents, where a talent was a significant amount of money.

Upon return, the servant who actually did something with the money and made it grow, were rewarded. The servant who didn't take a risk and kept the money safely stored in the ground, was punished.
Because god wants us to use what was given to us.
He gave us free will, thus eat the fruit.

I feel, that i don't have "talents". I do some thing good, some thing bad. I don't wait and don't want reward or punish. Just want don't exist after all. I don't like how "reality" is working.

You could ask for the manager of reality and file a complaint.

[Katganistan]

It was given food when it was saved. It keeps returning because of that. No gratitude needed.

I tihnk being saved is more important than getting given food.

For humans, yes.
For animals, food is a powerful motivator.
My father did not believe me when he told me, "I fed that stray cat, she looked hungry," and I told him, "We now have a cat."

Ten years we had her because she ended up inside after coming to the door every night and begging for food, until the day my father decided it was too cold outside and she became (for the most part) a housecat.

[La Xinga]

I tihnk being saved is more important than getting given food.

For humans, yes.
For animals, food is a powerful motivator.
My father did not believe me when he told me, "I fed that stray cat, she looked hungry," and I told him, "We now have a cat."

Ten years we had her because she ended up inside after coming to the door every night and begging for food, until the day my father decided it was too cold outside and she became (for the most part) a housecat.

Then what happened?

[Katganistan]

So, if God is all-powerful and "has a plan" and stuff doesn't happen unless God wills it, doesn't that make it God's fault if I sin? big thimk.

So, your preferred alternative would to be for God to deny humans free will. That way, humans would only choose what God wants them to choose. They'd be good little puppets, but hey, at least no possibility for evil.

But in Christian belief (deny it if you wish), God did give humans free will. And one consequence of that is that humans are free to choose evil over good. They are then responsible for the consequences of their choices.

Knowing that humans may choose evil is not the same as willing humans to choose evil.

How can you choose good and evil without knowing what good and evil are?
"I give you free will, but no understanding of the choice laid before you, just an admonition to obey which you do not know the reason for or even if obeying is good or evil. But use that free will I gave you, by all means."

If they didn't know the difference between good and evil, how were they even to know the devil/serpent was not to be trusted?

[La Xinga]

So, your preferred alternative would to be for God to deny humans free will. That way, humans would only choose what God wants them to choose. They'd be good little puppets, but hey, at least no possibility for evil.

But in Christian belief (deny it if you wish), God did give humans free will. And one consequence of that is that humans are free to choose evil over good. They are then responsible for the consequences of their choices.

Knowing that humans may choose evil is not the same as willing humans to choose evil.

How can you choose good and evil without knowing what good and evil are?
"I give you free will, but no understanding of the choice laid before you, just an admonition to obey which you do not know the reason for or even if obeying is good or evil. But use that free will I gave you, by all means."

If they didn't know the difference between good and evil, how were they even to know the devil/serpent was not to be trusted?

They had some knowledge of stuff like gratitude, to the one who created them. They should have listened to the one who did everything for them. Instead, the snake allowed Satan to go through him and made Adam and Eve sin.

[Kernen]

How can you choose good and evil without knowing what good and evil are?
"I give you free will, but no understanding of the choice laid before you, just an admonition to obey which you do not know the reason for or even if obeying is good or evil. But use that free will I gave you, by all means."

If they didn't know the difference between good and evil, how were they even to know the devil/serpent was not to be trusted?

They had some knowledge of stuff like gratitude, to the one who created them. They should have listened to the one who did everything for them. Instead, the snake allowed Satan to go through him and made Adam and Eve sin.

Gratuity creates no obligation. That is the point of gratuity.

[Hurdergaryp]

They had some knowledge of stuff like gratitude, to the one who created them. They should have listened to the one who did everything for them. Instead, the snake allowed Satan to go through him and made Adam and Eve sin.

Gratuity creates no obligation. That is the point of gratuity.

Every truly benevolent god would agree with that statement.

[Ethel mermania]

I tihnk being saved is more important than getting given food.

For humans, yes.
For animals, food is a powerful motivator.
My father did not believe me when he told me, "I fed that stray cat, she looked hungry," and I told him, "We now have a cat."

Ten years we had her because she ended up inside after coming to the door every night and begging for food, until the day my father decided it was too cold outside and she became (for the most part) a housecat.

I like your dad.

[Ethel mermania]

So, your preferred alternative would to be for God to deny humans free will. That way, humans would only choose what God wants them to choose. They'd be good little puppets, but hey, at least no possibility for evil.

But in Christian belief (deny it if you wish), God did give humans free will. And one consequence of that is that humans are free to choose evil over good. They are then responsible for the consequences of their choices.

Knowing that humans may choose evil is not the same as willing humans to choose evil.

How can you choose good and evil without knowing what good and evil are?
"I give you free will, but no understanding of the choice laid before you, just an admonition to obey which you do not know the reason for or even if obeying is good or evil. But use that free will I gave you, by all means."

If they didn't know the difference between good and evil, how were they even to know the devil/serpent was not to be trusted?

It's hard to think all things through on a six day design build schedule.

[Hurdergaryp]

How can you choose good and evil without knowing what good and evil are?
"I give you free will, but no understanding of the choice laid before you, just an admonition to obey which you do not know the reason for or even if obeying is good or evil. But use that free will I gave you, by all means."

If they didn't know the difference between good and evil, how were they even to know the devil/serpent was not to be trusted?

It's hard to think all things through on a six day design build schedule.

Especially if you consider them to be literal days instead of metaphorical days.

[La Xinga]

They had some knowledge of stuff like gratitude, to the one who created them. They should have listened to the one who did everything for them. Instead, the snake allowed Satan to go through him and made Adam and Eve sin.

Gratuity creates no obligation. That is the point of gratuity.

Yes, but there is also knowledge, knowledge that God gave you a commandment. Unlike animals, they did know to keep it.

[Kernen]

Gratuity creates no obligation. That is the point of gratuity.

Yes, but there is also knowledge, knowledge that God gave you a commandment. Unlike animals, they did know to keep it.

If the knowledge was given freely, it is not incumbent upon the recipient to repay the gift. Either the gifts from your god are gifts and free for us to use without recompense, or they are a part of a contractual obligation, and your god is not benevolent. More of a horse trader.

[La Xinga]

Yes, but there is also knowledge, knowledge that God gave you a commandment. Unlike animals, they did know to keep it.

If the knowledge was given freely, it is not incumbent upon the recipient to repay the gift. Either the gifts from your god are gifts and free for us to use without recompense, or they are a part of a contractual obligation, and your god is not benevolent. More of a horse trader.

God gives a lot of stuff for free. Everything in existence. Yet knowledge is not free, since human can go crazy with it. So it needs to be repayed.

[Kernen]

If the knowledge was given freely, it is not incumbent upon the recipient to repay the gift. Either the gifts from your god are gifts and free for us to use without recompense, or they are a part of a contractual obligation, and your god is not benevolent. More of a horse trader.

God gives a lot of stuff for free. Everything in existence. Yet knowledge is not free, since human can go crazy with it. So it needs to be repayed.

Humans can go crazy from mercury poisoning. Did we bargain with god for mercury? That we can become insane strikes me as a poor defining quality for whether something was given or bargained for.

[Hurdergaryp]

Yes, but there is also knowledge, knowledge that God gave you a commandment. Unlike animals, they did know to keep it.

If the knowledge was given freely, it is not incumbent upon the recipient to repay the gift. Either the gifts from your god are gifts and free for us to use without recompense, or they are a part of a contractual obligation, and your god is not benevolent. More of a horse trader.

That would explain why the various gods presented to us throughout history always seem to be horsing around.

[La Xinga]

God gives a lot of stuff for free. Everything in existence. Yet knowledge is not free, since human can go crazy with it. So it needs to be repayed.

Humans can go crazy from mercury poisoning. Did we bargain with god for mercury? That we can become insane strikes me as a poor defining quality for whether something was given or bargained for.

I'm confused what you're trying to say with mercury.

[Merni]

tbh paradise seems like a pretty good life. Not sure why I'd want to be kicked out by violating the management's rules, however arbitrary.

[Kernen]

Humans can go crazy from mercury poisoning. Did we bargain with god for mercury? That we can become insane strikes me as a poor defining quality for whether something was given or bargained for.

I'm confused what you're trying to say with mercury.

Yes, you do seem to struggle with analogy.

[La Xinga]

I'm confused what you're trying to say with mercury.

Yes, you do seem to struggle with analogy.

Okay, that's........amazing?

[Ethel mermania]

It's hard to think all things through on a six day design build schedule.

Especially if you consider them to be literal days instead of metaphorical days.

Generally the arguement i have with senior management when writing project profiles. Honestly I dont see a lot of difference here.

[Ethel mermania]

If the knowledge was given freely, it is not incumbent upon the recipient to repay the gift. Either the gifts from your god are gifts and free for us to use without recompense, or they are a part of a contractual obligation, and your god is not benevolent. More of a horse trader.

That would explain why the various gods presented to us throughout history always seem to be horsing around.

Thursday nights can get pretty boring if you have an eternity to kill.

[Kernen]

That would explain why the various gods presented to us throughout history always seem to be horsing around.

Thursday nights can get pretty boring if you have an eternity to kill.

Were I even a quasi-omniscient, sorta-powerful immortal being, I would probably be doing rails of coke with my coffee to keep things fun. My experience with cocaine is limited, but it sure seems to spice the day up.

[Ethel mermania]

Thursday nights can get pretty boring if you have an eternity to kill.

Were I even a quasi-omniscient, sorta-powerful immortal being, I would probably be doing rails of coke with my coffee to keep things fun. My experience with cocaine is limited, but it sure seems to spice the day up.

Cocaine is Columbia's way of saying "white man has too much money".

[Hurdergaryp]

Were I even a quasi-omniscient, sorta-powerful immortal being, I would probably be doing rails of coke with my coffee to keep things fun. My experience with cocaine is limited, but it sure seems to spice the day up.

Cocaine is Columbia's way of saying "white man has too much money".

And not even a sempiternal War On Drugs will change that, no matter how much tax payer's money you waste on it.

[La Xinga]

Cocaine is Columbia's way of saying "white man has too much money".

And not even a sempiternal War On Drugs will change that, no matter how much tax payer's money you waste on it.

So Colombia can never be fully rid of Cocaine?