Why you should eat Biblical apple

[Nevertopia]

turning us all into gods seems like a bad idea.

Why?

*Gestures vaguely at everything.*

[Salandriagado]

Yeah, no. There's just knowledge. More knowledge is monotically better than less knowledge.

Eh, not in religions with more dictatorial deities.

I've been over this before, but religions with more all mighty/dictatorial deities tend to be against the gaining of knowledge (Like Greek Paganism or The Abrahamic Religions), whereas those with gods who are more chill/apathetic to humanity or allied with humans (Norse Paganism for friends and Shintoism for apathetic) tends to be more encouraging of the pursuit of knowledge.

That just means that those religions are peddling shitty moral codes, not that knowledge isn't a benefit.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I'm shocked and appled. This is not biblicool.

[Neutraligon]

Why?

*Gestures vaguely at everything.*

Which exists because we are mortal. Starvation, disease, hurt due to trauma, etc, all these things are issues because we are mortal.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Well at first I would NOT eat the apple. The only rule in the world is "don't eat the apple" and I have no idea of the consequences if I do. So it would be extremely rash to eat the apple.

I'd think about it though, every time I saw the apple or anything that reminded me of the apple. After a while the temptation would start to really bug me.

So I'd pick the apple, and destroy it. I'd throw it out of the garden, or stamp it into the dirt. Or maybe feed it to some other animal. Then I'd be free of ever having to make the choice.

God being a known dick, would probably cause the tree to sprout another apple, but so it goes.

[Elsa De Arendelle]

"Then god should have found some better way then sending them out due to fear of them becoming like gods if they ate from the tree of life. If god is good, then why exactly should his children to not be gods?"

Adam and Eve were already immortal, all-knowing, sexy, infinite IQ, have superpowers, lived in luxury, and can have unlimited sex. The last gift I mentioned was only given to Adam and Eve and earth fleshly beings (animals). The angels were not allowed to enjoy sex at all. Only humans can have feel good SEX. That's why the angels got jealous later and raped human women in the time of Noah. Humans were basically god, just not worshippable. God made them lesser gods, and He dwelled and walked with them, and everything was more than pleasant. What else could you ask for? God was worshippable but Adam and Eve were not - is that what you envy from God? To have trillions of creatures worship you like you are God yourself?

In Heaven, we will become lesser gods. That is why Jesus has the title - King of kings.

[Nevertopia]

*Gestures vaguely at everything.*

Which exists because we are mortal. Starvation, disease, hurt due to trauma, etc, all these things are issues because we are mortal.

Don't underestimate humanity's propensity for evil.

[Neutraligon]

Which exists because we are mortal. Starvation, disease, hurt due to trauma, etc, all these things are issues because we are mortal.

Don't underestimate humanity's propensity for evil.

How would one be evil to an immortal being who cannot be harmed?

[Nevertopia]

"Then god should have found some better way then sending them out due to fear of them becoming like gods if they ate from the tree of life. If god is good, then why exactly should his children to not be gods?"

Adam and Eve were already immortal, all-knowing, sexy, infinite IQ, have superpowers, lived in luxury, and can have unlimited sex. The last gift I mentioned was only given to Adam and Eve and earth fleshly beings (animals). The angels were not allowed to enjoy sex at all. Only humans can have feel good SEX. That's why the angels got jealous later and raped human women in the time of Noah. Humans were basically god, just not worshippable. God made them lesser gods, and He dwelled and walked with them, and everything was more than pleasant. What else could you ask for? God was worshippable but Adam and Eve were not - is that what you envy from God? To have trillions of creatures worship you like you are God yourself?

In Heaven, we will become lesser gods. That is why Jesus has the title - King of kings.

I think I'll pass on godhood. Seems like a lot of trouble.

[Nevertopia]

Don't underestimate humanity's propensity for evil.

How would one be evil to an immortal being who cannot be harmed?

idk, I just know people can be dicks. Giving us god powers seems like a recipe for disaster.

[Elsa De Arendelle]

Have you ever admired the innocence of animal or a child? That is what Heaven will be like. Pure innocence and love. If we are immortal gods and yet we continue to have the brain that we do now - we will be sinful gods. I work in customer service - just imagine all of the mass are gods. Imagine psychopaths that live forever. God will not tolerate sin. He is just and righteous and will do away with us. He will not allow us to exist as we are in sin.

Sin = auto count down to death.

[Neutraligon]

How would one be evil to an immortal being who cannot be harmed?

idk, I just know people can be dicks. Giving us god powers seems like a recipe for disaster.

Because you are thinking about them as if they would be similar to humans of today.

[Nevertopia]

idk, I just know people can be dicks. Giving us god powers seems like a recipe for disaster.

Because you are thinking about them as if they would be similar to humans of today.

I dont think it wouldve be a good idea to have turned adam and eve into gods either.

[Infected Mushroom]

Within the context of the Biblical narrative, God is the King/Ruler. It follows that eating the apple was a sin and a breach of the laws/orders of God.

And since God is the Lord (so He’s basically the government/state with authority over Adam and Eve), what Eve did was unlawful and ethically wrong. The rest of the narrative demonstrates that as well.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

How would one be evil to an immortal being who cannot be harmed?

idk, I just know people can be dicks. Giving us god powers seems like a recipe for disaster.

If God can make each of us equal gods, then we too would have the power to create gods.
That's a lot of gods in not much time at all, but of course they can each create their own spacetime. So on forever, no disaster.

[Alcala-Cordel]

On a really dark note I'd eat that apple just to get back at him for apathetically killing people I care about

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Have you ever admired the innocence of animal or a child?

Have you ever been bitten by an animal or a child? Their innocence does not make them harmless.

[Neutraligon]

Have you ever admired the innocence of animal or a child?

Have you ever been bitten by an animal or a child? Their innocence does not make them harmless.

Well that and I do not admire innocence. That sort of naivety is not something I think of as a good thing.

[Nevertopia]

On a really dark note I'd eat that apple just to get back at him for apathetically killing people I care about

fair enough.

[New haven america]

Eh, not in religions with more dictatorial deities.

I've been over this before, but religions with more all mighty/dictatorial deities tend to be against the gaining of knowledge (Like Greek Paganism or The Abrahamic Religions), whereas those with gods who are more chill/apathetic to humanity or allied with humans (Norse Paganism for friends and Shintoism for apathetic) tends to be more encouraging of the pursuit of knowledge.

That just means that those religions are peddling shitty moral codes, not that knowledge isn't a benefit.

Well, Christianity's kinda bi-polar.

Like, God is all knowing and all powerful and dictatorial and you have to follow everything he says, but it also preaches that you should be a kind a good person, and that your punishment for not being a good person is an eternal afterlife of suffering. Like, it's just as against the gain of knowledge as the other Abrahamic religions, but it also says that you should try to help lift up and improve the lives of those around you, which usually requires the gain of knowledge. You see the issue here.

So yeah, it's a bit odd in that sense.

[Alcala-Cordel]

On a really dark note I'd eat that apple just to get back at him for apathetically killing people I care about

fair enough.

Before anyone asks I am mentally ok and life isn't bad, but I wouldn't be happy with a god if it stood by while all that happened

That just means that those religions are peddling shitty moral codes, not that knowledge isn't a benefit.

Well, Christianity's kinda bi-polar.

Like, God is all knowing and all powerful and dictatorial and you have to follow everything he says, but it also preaches that you should be a kind a good person, and that your punishment for not being a good person is an eternal afterlife of suffering. Like, it's just as against the gain of knowledge as the other Abrahamic religions, but it also says that you should try to help lift up and improve the lives of those around you, which usually requires the gain of knowledge. You see the issue here.

idk, I just know people can be dicks. Giving us god powers seems like a recipe for disaster.

It might be kinda fun since everyone has infinite power and can't die, on the other hand it would be very chaotic and there would definitely be people using it for evil.
So yeah, it's a bit odd in that sense.

It is a little vague on that, early Christianity used to hardly focus on hell. Fear of the devil only emerged later as part of the religion

[Dominant Oppressors]

I would chime in that you may be misconstruing what the apple is meant to be, it is not merely knowing what is good and what is bad but deciding what is right and what is wrong and such a power is not for us, it is arrogant and it is us not knowing our place in creation and thinking ourselves greater than God. The apple is a symbol and is more than just knowing what is right and wrong

[Neutraligon]

I would chime in that you may be misconstruing what the apple is meant to be, it is not merely knowing what is good and what is bad but deciding what is right and what is wrong and such a power is not for us, it is arrogant and it is us not knowing our place in creation and thinking ourselves greater than God. The apple is a symbol and is more than just knowing what is right and wrong

Too bad they must first know right from wrong to actually decide whether it is right/wrong to "take" that power.

[Dominant Oppressors]

I would chime in that you may be misconstruing what the apple is meant to be, it is not merely knowing what is good and what is bad but deciding what is right and what is wrong and such a power is not for us, it is arrogant and it is us not knowing our place in creation and thinking ourselves greater than God. The apple is a symbol and is more than just knowing what is right and wrong

Too bad they must first know right from wrong to actually decide whether it is right/wrong to "take" that power.

They already did know right from wrong, the apple didnt give them that power they already had it

[Neutraligon]

Too bad they must first know right from wrong to actually decide whether it is right/wrong to "take" that power.

They already did know right from wrong, the apple didnt give them that power they already had it

No they did not, as shown by the verse I keep quoting.