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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:35 am
by Kazakah
Stylan wrote:VI Lenin, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Guy Debord

Pretty much all of the Situationist International, which is funny because they were silly leftcoms.

Not entirely "political," but Jesus Christ. Christ comes before any politcal figure.


Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:39 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
Packyazies wrote:
Stylan wrote:VI Lenin, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Guy Debord

Pretty much all of the Situationist International, which is funny because they were silly leftcoms.

Not entirely "political," but Jesus Christ. Christ comes before any politcal figure.

I worry your choices, mostly as 2 of them are the worlds biggest murderers

Yes, Josef Stalin and Jesus.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:40 am
by Ansarre
Kazakah wrote:
Stylan wrote:VI Lenin, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Guy Debord

Pretty much all of the Situationist International, which is funny because they were silly leftcoms.

Not entirely "political," but Jesus Christ. Christ comes before any politcal figure.


Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

They're a self described tankie. Brutal, genocidal dictators are heroes to these people.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:41 am
by Stylan
Kazakah wrote:
Stylan wrote:VI Lenin, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Guy Debord

Pretty much all of the Situationist International, which is funny because they were silly leftcoms.

Not entirely "political," but Jesus Christ. Christ comes before any politcal figure.


Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

I also suggest you do some reading (beyond books printed by the CIA and Rupert Murdoch.)
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Packyazies wrote:I worry your choices, mostly as 2 of them are the worlds biggest murderers

Jesus.

Huh?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:42 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
Ansarre wrote:
Kazakah wrote:
Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

They're a self described tankie. Brutal, genocidal dictators are heroes to these people.

People like him/her are too edgy to understand the many downsides of the Soviet Union.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:43 am
by Space Lads
Pericles, Cato, Montesquieu, Locke, Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine, Garibaldi, Churchill, Gandhi, Mandela, all the Roosevelts, and JFK (he liked S P A C E)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:44 am
by Latvijas Otra Republika
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Ansarre wrote:They're a self described tankie. Brutal, genocidal dictators are heroes to these people.

People like him/her are too edgy to understand the many downsides of the Soviet Union.

People who says this sort of nonsense would be typically shot first. Modern Stalinists ofc.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:44 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
Stylan wrote:
Kazakah wrote:
Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

I also suggest you do some reading (beyond books printed by the CIA and Rupert Murdoch.)
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Jesus.

Huh?

You do know that Josef Stalin did horrible things to his people. He is not one to admire, however I have to agree that I too am quite fond of Lenin. It’s impressive to me how you can just switch a whole country on your side. And to the Jesus thing that was just a joke.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:45 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:People like him/her are too edgy to understand the many downsides of the Soviet Union.

People who says this sort of nonsense would be typically shot first. Modern Stalinists ofc.

True, luckily we are beyond those times.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:47 am
by Geneviev
William Jennings Bryan was my favorite American political figure. He defended Christianity, and he also ran for president three times. That's perseverance.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:47 am
by The Scarlet and Gray
I'll limit myself to U.S. presidents to make this easier.

  1. Abraham Lincoln

    The person most responsible for preserving the Union and ending slavery within the United States. Despite his lack of a formal education, he was an extremely intelligent and shrewd individual... and an extremely savvy politician.

  2. George Washington

    A man of impeccable honor and personal conviction, the foremost founding father of the United States quite literally shaped a majority of the conventions of the executive branch of government with his actions.

  3. Teddy Roosevelt

    One of the most fascinating figures in American history, he was responsible for many progressive policies within the U.S., including the establishment of anti-monopoly regulations, food and drug quality standards, and numerous national parks and forests. He additionally took the U.S. out of its relative foreign isolation and began the spread of its influence throughout the world.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:55 am
by Kazakah
Ansarre wrote:
Kazakah wrote:
Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

They're a self described tankie. Brutal, genocidal dictators are heroes to these people.


Its honestly pathetic. This is why education is important.


Stylan wrote:
Kazakah wrote:
Ah yes Mao and Stalin. Two extremely admirable people.

I suggest you do some reading.

I also suggest you do some reading (beyond books printed by the CIA and Rupert Murdoch.)


Stalin did terrible, terrible things. Not because he was a "communist", but because he was a power-hungry, genocidal maniac. I don't care if you advocate for socialism or communism or whatever. That's a debate for another time, but Stalin and Mao's regimes were not nice places for the majority of people. Denying events like Holdomor or the Great Leap Forward is immature, childish, and stupid.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:57 am
by Neuer Deutsches Reich
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Stylan wrote:I also suggest you do some reading (beyond books printed by the CIA and Rupert Murdoch.)

Huh?

You do know that Josef Stalin did horrible things to his people. He is not one to admire, however I have to agree that I too am quite fond of Lenin. It’s impressive to me how you can just switch a whole country on your side. And to the Jesus thing that was just a joke.

People already hated the Tzar so it was easy, I’m sure they regretted it 20 years later

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:58 am
by Kazakah
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Ansarre wrote:They're a self described tankie. Brutal, genocidal dictators are heroes to these people.

People like him/her are too edgy to understand the many downsides of the Soviet Union.


I'm guessing he's just some 14 year old kid. He'll grow out of it eventually. I said stupid things at that age too.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:00 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
Kazakah wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:People like him/her are too edgy to understand the many downsides of the Soviet Union.


I'm guessing he's just some 14 year old kid. He'll grow out of it eventually. I said stupid things at that age too.

True, I hope he’ll major in history, that way he might learn it a little sooner.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:01 am
by Ansarre
Kazakah wrote:Its honestly pathetic. This is why education is important.

Product of social media propaganda.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:03 am
by Kazakah
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Kazakah wrote:
I'm guessing he's just some 14 year old kid. He'll grow out of it eventually. I said stupid things at that age too.

True, I hope he’ll major in history, that way he might learn it a little sooner.


Hopefully. Historical revisionism worries me.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:04 am
by Socialist States of Ludistan
Kazakah wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:True, I hope he’ll major in history, that way he might learn it a little sooner.


Hopefully. Historical revisionism worries me.

Me too, but you don’t need to study hours to know Stalin and Mao was bad. I learned that as a little kid.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:06 am
by Vaspelia
i like my dad

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:43 am
by Sarderia
George Washington might not be the perfect leader the United States had in the first years of its founding, but he clearly demonstrates several good qualities as a statesman. In some ways, he is selfless (first refusing to take up the mantle of President), he is not an opportunistic tyrant (refusing to take more than two terms), he is a patriot (leading American revolutionary forces against the British Empire, a world superpower), and for that he should be commended.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:54 am
by Kazakah
Sarderia wrote:George Washington might not be the perfect leader the United States had in the first years of its founding, but he clearly demonstrates several good qualities as a statesman. In some ways, he is selfless (first refusing to take up the mantle of President), he is not an opportunistic tyrant (refusing to take more than two terms), he is a patriot (leading American revolutionary forces against the British Empire, a world superpower), and for that he should be commended.


He set the standard for what an American President should be. For that, he has my respect

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:58 am
by Romextly
Kazakah wrote:
Sarderia wrote:George Washington might not be the perfect leader the United States had in the first years of its founding, but he clearly demonstrates several good qualities as a statesman. In some ways, he is selfless (first refusing to take up the mantle of President), he is not an opportunistic tyrant (refusing to take more than two terms), he is a patriot (leading American revolutionary forces against the British Empire, a world superpower), and for that he should be commended.


He set the standard for what an American President should be. For that, he has my respect

one of top 3 best presidents

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:31 am
by Ansarre
Personally I think Washington is one of those giants of history who was fine at the time but is severely overrated relative to successors. Lincoln, Grant, Wilson, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Clinton... America had so many greater presidents later. He's definitely top 50% of presidents but I don't think he'd break my top 10.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:37 pm
by Kedri
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:Never found idolizing any real stranger as something you should do, would rather form my own ideas. People will only end up disappointing you.

Unironicly - If there are any I’d say Aldis Gobzems, guy might be a little off sometimes but he’s doing big things. Like Donald Trump as well, Julian Assange isn’t too bad.


Yeah, I don't know how to answer the OP's question as there isn't really any political figure I admire and most of them are rather disappointing. Maybe I just have perfectionistic standards, Idk.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:43 pm
by Major-Tom
Vetalia wrote:
Kazakah wrote:Silent Cal needs more recognition


He's my favorite president after Eisenhower.


Never agreed with his economics, always appreciated his early commitment to Civil Rights expansion and sticking to his principles in a time where there were few.