by Kergstan » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:22 pm
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:40 pm
by State of Turelisa » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:53 pm
by Sundiata » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:09 pm
State of Turelisa wrote:Martin Luther for encouraging the schism in the Catholic church with his controversial Ninety-five Theses, which began the Reformation.
by Rusozak » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:11 pm
Sundiata wrote:John F. Kennedy, the first and only Catholic President of the United States.
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:22 pm
by Major-Tom » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:32 pm
by Kergstan » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:37 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Ataturk, Mandela, Bhutto, Attlee, LaFollette, Pedro II, Lula, FDR, & many many more I'm not thinking of for historical political leaders/influential figures. As for those in modern day, there are few leaders I have a deep admiration for, barring people like Jacinda Ardern, though there are plenty of leaders to have a grudging respect for.
by Kubra » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:45 pm
by Major-Tom » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:47 pm
Kergstan wrote:Major-Tom wrote:Ataturk, Mandela, Bhutto, Attlee, LaFollette, Pedro II, Lula, FDR, & many many more I'm not thinking of for historical political leaders/influential figures. As for those in modern day, there are few leaders I have a deep admiration for, barring people like Jacinda Ardern, though there are plenty of leaders to have a grudging respect for.
Oh shi i forgot the great Mandela..
Zulfiqar or Benazir Bhutto? When it comes to the second i admire her too but not to a very large extent.
As for Lula i based part of my high school final thesis on him, especially the ''fome zero'' and ''bolsa familia'' programs as i was in gastronomic high school.
by Dresderstan » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:53 pm
by Chan Island » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:58 pm
State of Turelisa wrote:
Margaret Thatcher
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Radiatia » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:01 pm
by Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:10 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by New Bremerton » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:12 pm
by Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Dresderstan wrote:Caesar, Napoleon, Lincoln, Grant, Ike, Churchill, Washington, Hamilton, De Gaulle, MLK, Gandhi, FDR, Teddy, Alexander The Great, Catherine The Great, Charlemagne, Joan of Arc, Elizabeth I, Louis XIV, Kennedy, Richard the Lionheart, Henry II, and a few more, but these are just the easy ones off the top of my head.
by Federal Republic Of America And The Cari » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:23 pm
New Bremerton wrote:Liberal New Atheists such as Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Maajid Nawaz (anti-woke liberal and ex-jihadist terrorist turned Muslim reformer)
Anti-feminists such as Christina Hoff Sommers, Karen Straughan, Cassie Jaye, James Damore, and Warren Farrell, not to mention our very own Ostroeuropa
Coleman Hughes (liberal, Democrat critic of Black Lives Matter; he's black in case that wasn't clear)
Douglas Murray (critic of Islam and mass Muslim immigration to Europe)
Liu Xiaobo, Chen Guangcheng, Ai Weiwei, Tank Man, Hu Yaobang, Zhao Ziyang, Li Wenliang, and other anti-CCP dissidents, internal liberal reformers, and whistleblowers within China
Anti-corruption activist Clare Rewcastle-Brown, who fought to free Malaysia from a corrupt, authoritarian regime. She's the only reason the old regime collapsed in the first place. She should be bestowed honorary Malaysian citizenship.
Chris Chappell of China Uncensored and America Uncovered (the former program exposes the CCP's sinister machinations; the latter sets the record straight on all things related to America for a foreign audience in an unbiased and impartial manner)
Jimmy Lai (founder of Apple Daily, a HK-based pro-democracy tabloid)
Chris Patten (last governor of HK prior to the city's fateful Handover to the CCP in 1997; stands with HK)
David Ben-Gurion (founded a nation-state and refuge for Jews fleeing persecution against all the odds)
Tsai Ing-wen (current president of Taiwan and major thorn in Xi Jinping's backside; stands with HK)
Joshua Wong, Agnes Chow, Nathan Law (leading members of Demosisto, a pro-democracy political party in HK)
Anson Chan, Martin Lee, Emily Lau, Claudia Mo, Leung Kwok-hung, and other high-profile pro-democracy leaders in HK
Nikki Haley (ardent supporter of Israel)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (New Deal and victory in WWII helped end Great Depression and MAGA)
John McCain (Vietnam War veteran and advocate of military justice against murderous butcher Bashar al-Assad)
John Locke (founding father of liberalism)
Political figures I used to admire:
Lim Kit Siang, Anwar Ibrahim, Mahathir Mohamad (huge disappointments who let me and the rest of my country down)
Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, George Galloway, and other controversial, far-left public figures
Barack Obama (huge foreign policy disappointment; betrayed Israel's trust toward the very end, cowed by Russian meddling in Syria and Ukraine)
Donald Trump is a special case. Here is a man I strongly admire in some ways (e.g. populist/anti-establishment, standing up to China, standing with HK and Taiwan, standing with Israel, advocating men's rights, All Lives Matter as a counter to BLM, lawsuit against race-based affirmative action in college admissions, tough immigration policy) yet remain fiercely critical of in other ways (e.g. "law and order" and heavy-handed response to BLM protests and riots, failure to contain coronavirus pandemic domestically, trade war against EU and other allies, betraying the Syrian Kurds in their time of need, signing off on an expensive arms deal with Saudi Arabia, failing to halt the inhumane and callous intervention in Yemen, pledging to appoint pro-life justices to the Supreme Court, failing to adequately distance himself from the far-right).
by Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:24 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Latvijas Otra Republika » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:46 pm
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