Bolton: I wanna war, I wanna war, I wanna war with Iran!

[Shofercia]

He said Saddam was a threat to the west. I think thats funny since saddam killed 0 Americans and the guys we backed in Afghanistan later went on to kill almost 3000 of us.

Nobody in the 1980s knew that they would've turned on us. Supporting the Mujāhidūn against the USSR was a good thing.

I think RFS' question was about how Saddam Hussein was such a critical threat, that he had to be eliminated, especially compared to all other threats that the US was facing.

[Kowani]

Bolton has a good foreign policy

Very good at making enemies and weakening the power of America, maybe.

[Shofercia]

Didn't Israel try to eliminate Hezbollah as a threat in 2006? How'd that work out?

The 2006 Lebanon War happened in response to a Hezbollah terrorist attack against Israeli soldiers. Their aim was revenge and hurting Hezbollah, not specifically outright defeating them. Invading Lebanon wouldn't be an approach I'd ever advocate, not in 2006 and not now. Hezbollah should be countered by providing various methods of support to their domestic opposition.

Yes, that's been working wonderfully thus far. Oh, wait... no, it hasn't.

Are you saying that the actions of Saudi Arabia in Yemen embody American Values?

To be honest, Saudi Arabia is one of those countries I'm happy to use to counter Iranian influence... but they need to go as well. The al-Saud family are some of the most wicked and hypocritical people ever. My personal experiences with them just amplifies my disdain for them.

I take the more realistic approach, namely that states are self-interested actors, and that states only care about Human Rights when it suits their needs.

SOHR's doing a great job - Baghdad Bob must be jealous! Since you believe that ISIS only killed 6,200 civilians, are you interested in a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge?

Typical behavior of a Russophile. No explanation on why they're wrong, just cry about them. Proof that ISIS killed significantly more than 6,200 civilians in Syria or don't bother responding.

Proof that the Moon isn't made of cheese?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... ul/556466/

In December 2017, the Associated Press estimated that 9,000 to 11,000 civilians had died in the battle—an estimate nearly 10 times higher than what had been officially reported. At least a third of those deaths, the AP found, came as a result of coalition or Iraqi bombardments. In a separate investigation, NPR reported that the city morgue had recorded the names of 4,865 individuals on death certificates, dating between October 2016 and July 2017, and estimated that more than 5,000 civilians had been killed.

In a single battle, ISIS killed at least 4,500 civilians, according to that source, in Iraq. Unless ISIS suddenly became much more humanitarian in Syria, than it was in Iraq, the death toll's going to be much higher than SOHR's laughable number.

[Ansarre]

I think RFS' question was about how Saddam Hussein was such a critical threat, that he had to be eliminated, especially compared to all other threats that the US was facing.

Continued support for terrorist groups like Hamas, track record of invading multiple countries, violating non-proliferation agreements.

On top of that he was a ruthless dictator committing genocide against his own population.

[Ansarre]

es, that's been working wonderfully thus far. Oh, wait... no, it hasn't.

Because it isn't even being done. Show me evidence of the west funding opposition groups in Lebanon.

In a single battle, ISIS killed at least 4,500 civilians, according to that source, in Iraq. Unless ISIS suddenly became much more humanitarian in Syria, than it was in Iraq, the death toll's going to be much higher than SOHR's laughable number.

Mosul isn't in Syria, so I don't care. Show me evidence that they killed more in Syria.

[Kowani]

I think RFS' question was about how Saddam Hussein was such a critical threat, that he had to be eliminated, especially compared to all other threats that the US was facing.

On top of that he was a ruthless dictator committing genocide against his own population.

The US has had no issue with that.
Seriously, Human Rights are a rhetorical stick Washington uses to beat polities they don’t like.

[Shofercia]

I think RFS' question was about how Saddam Hussein was such a critical threat, that he had to be eliminated, especially compared to all other threats that the US was facing.

Continued support for terrorist groups like Hamas, track record of invading multiple countries, violating non-proliferation agreements.

On top of that he was a ruthless dictator committing genocide against his own population.

One of his generals did so in 1991. How was that a casus belli in 2003? Hamas? The group that Israel curb stomps on a daily basis? Yeah, that's real dangerous. And once again, he was willing to let the UN inspectors into the country.

es, that's been working wonderfully thus far. Oh, wait... no, it hasn't.

Because it isn't even being done. Show me evidence of the west funding opposition groups in Lebanon.

If Israel could defeat Hezbollah through funding opposition groups, AIPAC would've lobbied for that, and would've gotten those funds quite easily.

In a single battle, ISIS killed at least 4,500 civilians, according to that source, in Iraq. Unless ISIS suddenly became much more humanitarian in Syria, than it was in Iraq, the death toll's going to be much higher than SOHR's laughable number.

Mosul isn't in Syria, so I don't care. Show me evidence that they killed more in Syria.

So you think that ISIS goes "we're killing tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq, but only thousands of civilians in Syria"? ISIS is ISIS. Granted, after the Russians intervened, it became WasWas, but ISIS wasn't going to care about UN drawn borders. Their actions in Iraq and their actions in Syria, at least in terms of atrocities, were quite similar. Heck, they wanted to wipe Kobane off of the map. I'm not going to go through a collection of casualty reports just to disprove blatant propaganda by Baghdad Bob, I mean SOHR.

[Shofercia]

On top of that he was a ruthless dictator committing genocide against his own population.

The US has had no issue with that.
Seriously, Human Rights are a rhetorical stick Washington uses to beat polities they don’t like.

And not just Washington. Every UNSC member does it. Heck, Russia ignored Human Rights of the Kurds and Libyans, but protected the Human Rights of Alawites. Any guesses about the location of Russia's Military Base? But Ansarre things that SOHR's a legit source, so Ansarre isn't going to believe the fact that you just stated.

[Kowani]

The US has had no issue with that.
Seriously, Human Rights are a rhetorical stick Washington uses to beat polities they don’t like.

And not just Washington. Every UNSC member does it. Heck, Russia ignored Human Rights of the Kurds and Libyans, but protected the Human Rights of Alawites. Any guesses about the location of Russia's Military Base? But Ansarre things that SOHR's a legit source, so Ansarre isn't going to believe the fact that you just stated.

This is most likely true, but my knowledge of Russian politics is sadly very inadequate, so I didn’t bring it up, since I wouldn’t be able to fit it into any pattern of behavior.

The whole “every UNSC member does it” thing, however, is definitely true.

[Slavakino]

I doubt Assad has killed his own people. Most of the media on this topic are talking bullshit, I barely find the truth on this topic. The rebels have committed worse crimes to civilians and even genocide. One thing to add, I see too many videos to show how retarded and incompetent the rebels are at doing their job, e.g shooting at a tank with an outdated RPG and immediately praising god only to be shot at by the tank

yeah you were given a reliable source that has extensive networks on the ground in Syria yet you doubt it because...... it goes against your "assad is so hecking based!! saa fight the evil westerino!" narrative... Assad indiscriminately bombs residential areas because he has an air force unlike the rebels so obviously he kills far more.

Nah. Unlike the rebels, Assad is popular and has great support. And no I'm not supporting because le based, its because I support Ba'athism and Assad's policies. I support dictatorships if they are efficient and benevolent. The Rebels are criminals and are filled with Ex-ISIS members who kill 'infidels'

[Diopolis]

War with Iraq was inevitable- the deep state wouldn't tolerate a country even thinking overly hard about selling oil for Euros. Nor will it tolerate a sane relationship with the zionists.

[Luziyca]

I'm totally shocked Bolton would want a war with Iran.

[Ansarre]

On top of that he was a ruthless dictator committing genocide against his own population.

The US has had no issue with that.
Seriously, Human Rights are a rhetorical stick Washington uses to beat polities they don’t like.

>Khmer Rouge: 90% of their aid came from China and the US only supported them during the war with Vietnam.
>Indonesia: Yeah this was pretty brutal however I wouldn't classify it as a genocide.

War with Iraq was inevitable- the deep state wouldn't tolerate a country even thinking overly hard about selling oil for Euros. Nor will it tolerate a sane relationship with the zionists.

The Iraq War had nothing to do with oil. Stop peddling conspiracy theories.

has great support

If he had great support there would BE NO CIVIL WAR. He's support by Alawites and Yazidis, Christians and Kurds are mixed and Sunnis hate him. The Syrian diaspora is even more opposed to him. Go and tell the millions fleeing his regime he's a popular figure....

But Ansarre things that SOHR's a legit source, so Ansarre isn't going to believe the fact that you just stated.

Oh come on, explain how they're not. Sticking your head up your ass and screaming "fake news fake news fake news" doesn't rebuke SOHR.

[Diopolis]

War with Iraq was inevitable- the deep state wouldn't tolerate a country even thinking overly hard about selling oil for Euros. Nor will it tolerate a sane relationship with the zionists.

The Iraq War had nothing to do with oil. Stop peddling conspiracy theories.

It's not a coincidence Iraq II happened after Saddam started toying with selling oil for Euros and, for once in his life, met all the US demands.

[Slavakino]

has great support

If he had great support there would BE NO CIVIL WAR. He's support by Alawites and Yazidis, Christians and Kurds are mixed and Sunnis hate him. The Syrian diaspora is even more opposed to him. Go and tell the millions fleeing his regime he's a popular figure....

Ironic. Sunnis, Alawites and Kurds love him. Its only the Shia Muslims who hate him for his "dictatorial regime". Only reason people are fleeing is because of you know A FUCKING WAR. Your Neo-Con beliefs are actually cancer and gave me a brain hemorrhage. Syria before the war used to be a great place as well as Damascus being beautiful

[Ansarre]

The Iraq War had nothing to do with oil. Stop peddling conspiracy theories.

It's not a coincidence Iraq II happened after Saddam started toying with selling oil for Euros and, for once in his life, met all the US demands.

No, it is. Oil companies wrote a letter begging Bush not to go to war with Iraq because it was actually against oil interests...
Additionally, oil production only began to reach pre-war levels in 2012.

[Ansarre]

If he had great support there would BE NO CIVIL WAR. He's support by Alawites and Yazidis, Christians and Kurds are mixed and Sunnis hate him. The Syrian diaspora is even more opposed to him. Go and tell the millions fleeing his regime he's a popular figure....

Ironic. Sunnis, Alawites and Kurds love him. Its only the Shia Muslims who hate him for his "dictatorial regime". Only reason people are fleeing is because of you know A FUCKING WAR. Your Neo-Con beliefs are actually cancer and gave me a brain hemorrhage. Syria before the war used to be a great place as well as Damascus being beautiful

Alawites are a subset of Shia Islam, and Shia Muslims including Iran, which has assumed the role of spiritual head of Shia Islam, support him. Syria was a great place before the corrupt Assad regime ran it into the ground. You don't know what you're talking about. As for Kurds, no real evidence they support Assad overwhelmingly. Opinions are mixed from what I gather.

[Slavakino]

Ironic. Sunnis, Alawites and Kurds love him. Its only the Shia Muslims who hate him for his "dictatorial regime". Only reason people are fleeing is because of you know A FUCKING WAR. Your Neo-Con beliefs are actually cancer and gave me a brain hemorrhage. Syria before the war used to be a great place as well as Damascus being beautiful

Alawites are a subset of Shia Islam, and Shia Muslims including Iran, which has assumed the role of spiritual head of Shia Islam, support him. Syria was a great place before the corrupt Assad regime ran it into the ground. You don't know what you're talking about. As for Kurds, no real evidence they support Assad overwhelmingly. Opinions are mixed from what I gather.

Alawites are considered "infidels" from Shia's ironically. The Assad family have done great for the nation of Syria for decades. By the looks of it you got spoonfed into the bullshit the American gov is feeding you mate. Kurds mainly want Kurdistan to be a thing, Assad gave them a sort of autonomous zone and had signed a deal with them to stop the rebels together. The rebels are just salty politicians, ISIS or Turks who want "muh democracy" and can't fight correctly. Thank god the USA stopped supporting the Rebels in favour of the Rojava

[Kowani]

The US has had no issue with that.
Seriously, Human Rights are a rhetorical stick Washington uses to beat polities they don’t like.

>Khmer Rouge: 90% of their aid came from China

Source?

and the US only supported them during the war with Vietnam.

Actively false. The US starts funding the Khmer Rouge in 1980-5 years after the Vietnam War ended.

>Indonesia: Yeah this was pretty brutal however I wouldn't classify it as a genocide.

Academia Disagrees.

[Rojava Free State]

He said Saddam was a threat to the west. I think thats funny since saddam killed 0 Americans and the guys we backed in Afghanistan later went on to kill almost 3000 of us.

Nobody in the 1980s knew that they would've turned on us. Supporting the Mujāhidūn against the USSR was a good thing.

Mujahudeen: we have our suicide vests for Allah ready.

Ronald Reagan: Ladies and gentlemen, the George Washingtons of our time.

[Rojava Free State]

I think RFS' question was about how Saddam Hussein was such a critical threat, that he had to be eliminated, especially compared to all other threats that the US was facing.

Continued support for terrorist groups like Hamas, track record of invading multiple countries, violating non-proliferation agreements.

On top of that he was a ruthless dictator committing genocide against his own population.

And we support genocidal dictators too. This country itself was founded on a genocide dude. The US government isn't fighting for freedom. Its another tyrannical regime, a dime a dozen.

[Rojava Free State]

It's not a coincidence Iraq II happened after Saddam started toying with selling oil for Euros and, for once in his life, met all the US demands.

No, it is. Oil companies wrote a letter begging Bush not to go to war with Iraq because it was actually against oil interests...
Additionally, oil production only began to reach pre-war levels in 2012.

Which is why Cheney had secret talks with haliburton

[Rojava Free State]

>Khmer Rouge: 90% of their aid came from China

Source?

and the US only supported them during the war with Vietnam.

Actively false. The US starts funding the Khmer Rouge in 1980-5 years after the Vietnam War ended.

>Indonesia: Yeah this was pretty brutal however I wouldn't classify it as a genocide.

Academia Disagrees.

"America is a free country and can do no wrong."

-literally nobody anymore

[Slavakino]

He said Saddam was a threat to the west. I think thats funny since saddam killed 0 Americans and the guys we backed in Afghanistan later went on to kill almost 3000 of us.

Nobody in the 1980s knew that they would've turned on us. Supporting the Mujāhidūn against the USSR was a good thing.

This sentence gave me AIDS. the Mujadheen were well known radical Islamists, should of let the USSR help Afghanistan. Not to mention USA's intervention in Bosnia and Kosovo fuelled terrorism ironically by gee idk FUNDING TERRORISTS?

[Rojava Free State]

Nobody in the 1980s knew that they would've turned on us. Supporting the Mujāhidūn against the USSR was a good thing.

This sentence gave me AIDS. the Mujadheen were well known radical Islamists, should of let the USSR help Afghanistan. Not to mention USA's intervention in Bosnia and Kosovo fuelled terrorism ironically by gee idk FUNDING TERRORISTS?

Look at how the former soviet central Asian republics are all modern and Afghanistan is just not. Really speaks volumes.