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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:14 am

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The Emerald Legion wrote:Honestly, I have no idea how the porn industry manages to somehow make money.


They barely make anymore nowadays. The rise of the streaming services killed their business model. only a handful of studios survive because they have well running subscription models or managed otherwise to adapt to the digital age.


Time for some subsidies perhaps! To make Sundiata's head explode I mean for the workers.
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Postby Sundiata » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:16 am

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Sundiata wrote:But pornography shouldn't exist, if it isn't made illegal then the state is compliant with its production. While it isn't easy to stop now, it certainly may become so in time with further advances in technology.

No advances in technology is going to be able to completely eradicate the porn industry. Trying to do so is foolish and a waste of resources. It will do nothing to help anyone who is involved or hurt by the industry and will in all likelihood make reporting said abuses a more difficult task. If we want to improve the situation in the porn industry regulating it and putting in oversight is a far more helpful choice than abolishing it.

Banning the industry is a start and serving its victims an important step forward. I'm not interested in improving the situation within the porn industry, I'm interested in its complete eradication. Porn can be eliminated.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:17 am

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They barely make anymore nowadays. The rise of the streaming services killed their business model. only a handful of studios survive because they have well running subscription models or managed otherwise to adapt to the digital age.


Time for some subsidies perhaps! To make Sundiata's head explode I mean for the workers.


Most of the porn performers are barely making any money in the industry anymore. They earn their main buck as professional escorts. Porn is merely a side income as only few people can live from that anymore.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:17 am

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The industry is already pretty much dying anyways or cannibalized by the mindgeek.

But i think the thought of a omnipotent porn moloch is a much more stimulating fantasy for moralists.

It's good to hear that the industry is fading away but the trouble is that there are not yet any assurances of its elimination.


The industry is fading away because people make the product on their own. People have sex, lots of it. Some of those people get a kick out of filming it.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:19 am

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Andsed wrote:No advances in technology is going to be able to completely eradicate the porn industry. Trying to do so is foolish and a waste of resources. It will do nothing to help anyone who is involved or hurt by the industry and will in all likelihood make reporting said abuses a more difficult task. If we want to improve the situation in the porn industry regulating it and putting in oversight is a far more helpful choice than abolishing it.

Banning the industry is a start and serving its victims an important step forward. I'm not interested in improving the situation within the porn industry, I'm interested in its complete eradication. Porn can be eliminated.

If your living in a fantasy world maybe. But in this reality? No banning it will not help. It will just go underground and any legal protections pornstars have will be gone. What your suggesting is just going to hurt the victims.
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Postby Sundiata » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:19 am

Nakena wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Time for some subsidies perhaps! To make Sundiata's head explode I mean for the workers.


Most of the porn performers are barely making any money in the industry anymore. They earn their main buck as professional escorts. Porn is merely a side income as only few people can live from that anymore.

How tragic it is to earn one's income as a prostitute. We're failing people as a society.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:22 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Sundiata wrote:It's good to hear that the industry is fading away but the trouble is that there are not yet any assurances of its elimination.


The industry is fading away because people make the product on their own. People have sex, lots of it. Some of those people get a kick out of filming it.


Also all the porn people are drawing online.


But heres the thing, shouldn't the porn industry include funds from commissioned artists? Because if we add that in, then I would safely say that the porn industry would be in the trillions worldwide?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:23 am

Sundiata wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Most of the porn performers are barely making any money in the industry anymore. They earn their main buck as professional escorts. Porn is merely a side income as only few people can live from that anymore.

How tragic it is to earn one's income as a prostitute. We're failing people as a society.

I mean it is the oldest profession for a reason. People want fuck, and will pay for fuck.

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:31 am

"You cant totally ban it" is not a good argument for not banning porn (or anything else including drugs). The government can do a lot of things to suppress pornography and obscenity in general that can change the country's culture downstream - it doesn't need to make it literally impossible for any person to look at porn ever.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:32 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Also all the porn people are drawing online.

only on nationstates folks
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:34 am

Andsed wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Banning the industry is a start and serving its victims an important step forward. I'm not interested in improving the situation within the porn industry, I'm interested in its complete eradication. Porn can be eliminated.

If your living in a fantasy world maybe. But in this reality? No banning it will not help. It will just go underground and any legal protections pornstars have will be gone. What your suggesting is just going to hurt the victims.
There should be a dual approach: carrot and the stick.

It is fair and just for the state to suppress pornographers. It is also fair and just for the state to have social services to support troubled women who might fall into this situation. It is also fair and just that the state both supports and expects families to deal with this situation.

We don't want just one.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:36 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Also all the porn people are drawing online.

only on nationstates folks

I'm not wrong tho.

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Andsed wrote:If your living in a fantasy world maybe. But in this reality? No banning it will not help. It will just go underground and any legal protections pornstars have will be gone. What your suggesting is just going to hurt the victims.
There should be a dual approach: carrot and the stick.

It is fair and just for the state to suppress pornographers.


>suppressing things you don't like

Sounds a bit too much like the USSR for me.

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:37 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Sounds a bit too much like the USSR for me.
Yes.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:39 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I'm not wrong tho
No you aren't.

And ultimately it's not that bad. The irony is that despite being deeply and viscerally vile and disgusting, hand-drawn furry porn is actually the least offensive and the least damaging an the least deserving of being banned.
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Postby Sundiata » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:39 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sundiata wrote:How tragic it is to earn one's income as a prostitute. We're failing people as a society.

I mean it is the oldest profession for a reason. People want fuck, and will pay for fuck.

If people are after sex then they should satiate that drive in marriage.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:41 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Sounds a bit too much like the USSR for me.
Yes.


Yeah so lets not do that.

There are plenty of artists who need NSFW commissions to keep working. The people have the freedom to commit sin, and the state should not interfere in the guise of religion.

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Postby Ansarre » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:43 am

All "sex work" (incl. pornography) is rape.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:43 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:There are plenty of artists who need NSFW commissions to keep working. The people have the freedom to commit sin, and the state should not interfere in the guise of religion.
Irrespective of their individual rights the target is the pornography industry, which should be closed down. I guess that may affect the livelihoods of artists who work under the umbrella of the industry (or maybe not — quite honestly I don't categorise hentai of any kind as "pornography" although it is definitely pornographic) but I don't care about that. They have to get new jobs. They only have themselves to blame for making a career out of drawing humans having sex with animals.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:43 am

Ansarre wrote:All "sex work" (incl. pornography) is rape.


How so?
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Postby Thepeopl » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:50 am

Ansarre wrote:All "sex work" (incl. pornography) is rape.


Not true.
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In the Netherlands, we have special sex healthcare professionals for handicapped people.

And also in Australia
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And spain, france, Belgium
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:52 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I'm not wrong tho
No you aren't.

And ultimately it's not that bad. The irony is that despite being deeply and viscerally vile and disgusting, hand-drawn furry porn is actually the least offensive and the least damaging an the least deserving of being banned.


Meh, I'm cool with lewd furry stuff. People are free to do this and there liberty to do this should not be suppressed.

So yeah, don't just ban the porn industry beacuse your banning furry porn/hentai/other stuff too.

Artists need work. People should be free to draw whatever they want and commission whatever they want. (as long as it's not cub porn/pedophilia, fuck that shit)

Sundiata wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I mean it is the oldest profession for a reason. People want fuck, and will pay for fuck.

If people are after sex then they should satiate that drive in marriage.


That kind of thinking has just been nonfunctional sense forever. It's wishful thinking that will never work.


Ansarre wrote:All "sex work" (incl. pornography) is rape.


Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:There are plenty of artists who need NSFW commissions to keep working. The people have the freedom to commit sin, and the state should not interfere in the guise of religion.
Irrespective of their individual rights the target is the pornography industry, which should be closed down. I guess that may affect the livelihoods of artists who work under the umbrella of the industry (or maybe not — quite honestly I don't categorise hentai of any kind as "pornography" although it is definitely pornographic) but I don't care about that. They have to get new jobs. They only have themselves to blame for making a career out of drawing humans having sex with animals.


Unemployed people and suppression of freedom under state religious laws? No thanks, I don't want to live in Saudi Arabia.

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:58 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Unemployed people and suppression of freedom under state religious laws? No thanks, I don't want to live in Saudi Arabia.

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It's not to do with religion, it's purely secular [for me].

The state has the authority to protect vulnerable people from predators. If it doesn't, it's not a state.
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Postby Joohan » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:00 am

I am hesitant to make a judgement on the man, not wanting to simply believe every accusation that is levied against someone else, and wanting to give even the accused the benefit of the doubt.

Regardless however, I am in agreement with others here that porn should not be a commercial industry. Something as intimate and as important as sex should not be subject to capitalization.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:00 am

Being raped is always bad, but being raped by Ron Jeremy must be hellish. They must have offered those porn stars alot of money to get boned by him.

Maybe the US government paid them to do it. That would explain how we ended up 19 trillion dollars in debt.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:06 am

Ansarre wrote:All "sex work" (incl. pornography) is rape.


So if you pay a woman to spank you, you are raping her ?
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