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The Emerald Legion
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:28 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Some show about Bartenders. Like... The guy makes drinks and shows you how while talking about the history of the drink.

First off, name the show, so we can verify it isn't BS.

Secondly, even if it's true, if there were an afterlife, and you met the victims of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre there, would you tell them to their faces that their deaths were justified in the name of making people drink less than they used to?


Firstly, I honestly don't know. Something my roommate was watching.

Secondly, I don't care one way or another. I'm just saying that so far as I'm aware, prohibition succeeded in changing the way the nation views alcohol. But Alcohol isn't porn.
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Postby Starblaydia » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:30 am

New haven america wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Normally these two posts would only warrant a knock it off, but given your history I think they deserve a warning. So *** Warned for trolling *** viewtopic.php?p=37317977#p37317977, viewtopic.php?p=37318477#p37318477

2nd opinion wanted, ASAP.

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I'm concurring with my colleague's assessment - trolling a group of people by calling them sociopaths twice is not on, even if their industry has demonstrably shady aspects.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:34 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:If it weren't for women making the first move I'd be a virgin.

Though I get that it's not the norm. It really should just fall on 'whoever has the confidence to give it a go'.

Guy 1: "I'm not entirely certain she wants me. It's probably more likely than not, but asking her out might make her feel uncomfortable. Perhaps I should hold off."

Guy 2: "It's not particularly likely she wants me. In fact, it's probably unlikely. But it's worth a shot, and I don't care if I make her feel uncomfortable. If anything, she's even cuter when she's blushing in front of everyone. I'm going to go for it."

Isn't that a bit of a source of error in the extent to which willingness to ask someone out reflects "confidence?"

Did you just reduce a complex tapestry of conditions and elements into two weird, not exactly related choices to ask me a rather odd question? What are you even getting at here?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:09 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Guy 1: "I'm not entirely certain she wants me. It's probably more likely than not, but asking her out might make her feel uncomfortable. Perhaps I should hold off."

Guy 2: "It's not particularly likely she wants me. In fact, it's probably unlikely. But it's worth a shot, and I don't care if I make her feel uncomfortable. If anything, she's even cuter when she's blushing in front of everyone. I'm going to go for it."

Isn't that a bit of a source of error in the extent to which willingness to ask someone out reflects "confidence?"

Did you just reduce a complex tapestry of conditions and elements into two weird, not exactly related choices to ask me a rather odd question? What are you even getting at here?

I'm getting at how piss-poor "willingness to ask her out" is as a metric of his confidence.
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2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:10 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:First off, name the show, so we can verify it isn't BS.

Secondly, even if it's true, if there were an afterlife, and you met the victims of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre there, would you tell them to their faces that their deaths were justified in the name of making people drink less than they used to?


Firstly, I honestly don't know. Something my roommate was watching.

Secondly, I don't care one way or another. I'm just saying that so far as I'm aware, prohibition succeeded in changing the way the nation views alcohol. But Alcohol isn't porn.

Okay, so does the state have the right to regulate freedom of expression the way it would regulate a tangible product?
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:37 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Did you just reduce a complex tapestry of conditions and elements into two weird, not exactly related choices to ask me a rather odd question? What are you even getting at here?

I'm getting at how piss-poor "willingness to ask her out" is as a metric of his confidence.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to boil down the entire complexity of human interaction into a single sentence. I was sort of relying on people being able to extrapolate as a function of normal conversation.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Nobel Hobos 2
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:59 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Firstly, I honestly don't know. Something my roommate was watching.

Secondly, I don't care one way or another. I'm just saying that so far as I'm aware, prohibition succeeded in changing the way the nation views alcohol. But Alcohol isn't porn.

Okay, so does the state have the right to regulate freedom of expression the way it would regulate a tangible product?


My answer is no, freedom of expression has its own amendment. Laws do infringe on the right, but not to this extent.

Also though, Prohibition to such an extreme degree that it broke law enforcement, was only possible with support of an amendment.

Consider the Federal law against marijuana now. It isn't being enforced in the states which have legalized, and this may be just to keep the peace between Feds and States, but it may also be because attempting to enforce it would fail in the courts.

Where I'm going with this is that States might be able to ban all porn (if they can get that past the courts) but a Federal ban could be negated by State laws. Just a few states banning porn would probably be quite ineffective, they'd have to set up a virtual border check on internet traffic and that would be too expensive for them if it's even possible. Wireless bootleggers the other side of the border, the old concept of sneakerware, hell pirates laying their own cables. If a state provides an incentive for illegal data transfer like that, they lose surveillance of all sorts of illegal content, and lose it for the Feds too.
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Postby Chessmistress » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:43 pm

I'm not surprised.
Well, actually I'm surprised: I'm surprised that it didn't happen much earlier, and I'm also surprised that those charges doesn't happen so often as they should.
However I have hope since more and more women seems to become aware of the exploitation that's going on in the porn industry.
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The Emerald Legion
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Father Knows Best State

Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:47 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Firstly, I honestly don't know. Something my roommate was watching.

Secondly, I don't care one way or another. I'm just saying that so far as I'm aware, prohibition succeeded in changing the way the nation views alcohol. But Alcohol isn't porn.

Okay, so does the state have the right to regulate freedom of expression the way it would regulate a tangible product?


You seem to mistake me for someone who wants to ban porn. I personally don't think we should regulate things infinitely more dangerous than the intangible moral threat of people watching other people fuck.

Why would I care about this?
"23.The unwise man is awake all night, and ponders everything over; when morning comes he is weary in mind, and all is a burden as ever." - Havamal

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:56 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Okay, so does the state have the right to regulate freedom of expression the way it would regulate a tangible product?


You seem to mistake me for someone who wants to ban porn. I personally don't think we should regulate things infinitely more dangerous than the intangible moral threat of people watching other people fuck.

Why would I care about this?

Easy impression to get when you criticized what you considered a poor argument against banning porn without specifying any (at least at the time) which arguments against banning you thought were better ones, though.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:11 pm

A bankrupt, and immoral industry produces people who become sense deprived individuals with warped perceptions of consent, and other issues, who knew?
I am just going to lay it out here, I am going to be very blunt.

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