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Authoritarian Left Discussion Thread I

Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:06 pm

Remember to keep to topics related to auth-left politics. Whilst the conversation may naturally meander around such areas as religion, philosophy and, of course, liberal wing ideology, please, please try to limit discussion of these topics to their relevance to the political auth-left. We leave it up to posters to decide for themselves what constitutes "auth-left” in political jargon. Respect your fellow posters, abide by the site rules, and be prepared to have your views challenged, mocked, torn apart, shit on, and flushed down the toilet.

Relevant subjects for discussion include:

The politics, philosophies, and ideologies of the authleft.
Authleft perspectives on economics and political economy.
Cultural issues from authleft-wing perspectives.
News and history relevant to the political authleft.
Authleft responses to current events.
Political, social, cultural, and economic problems and their solutions according to the political Authleft.
The problems facing particular Auth-left movements or the political Authleft in general, and how to resolve them.

We have to report people now and only chat in the TET, it is what it is.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:13 pm

I think this would most likely turn into a thread frequented by tankies. Anyway, I'm an American Nationalist with a social democratic view on economics. I don't know if that's "authoritarian" but I see no harm in posting here.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:14 pm

K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:14 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:I think this would most likely turn into a thread frequented by tankies. Anyway, I'm an American Nationalist with a social democratic view on economics. I don't know if that's "authoritarian" but I see no harm in posting here.

What’s wrong with tankies? Ya got tanks and chauvinistic music and tanks and based music and did I mention tanks?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:15 pm

Cekoviu wrote:K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.

Revolution. Reform is too slow and has the potential to be rolled back if it’s implemented in a democracy
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:16 pm

Cekoviu wrote:K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.

No it isn't, and if it becomes anything like the RWDT this thread will be locked.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:17 pm

Cekoviu wrote:K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.

Doesn’t matter. Whatever is possible, whatever produces better conditions for ordinary people. I’m for participation in electoral politics, but it far from the end all. The trade union movement is where most real change has historically come from, and it is showing signs of life in the United States. Revolution is something that has happened and will again, but we can’t afford to wait for it.
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Postby Tirmon » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:18 pm

Cekoviu wrote:K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.

Revolution - Peaceful if at all possible - but revolution nonetheless. Revolution is a form of democracy in of itself, and reform seeks merely to placate the Working Class as much as possible until they become complacent and they can begin rolling reforms back. Change must target and change, by force if necessary, the power structures in a given country. Reform doesn't allow for this.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:19 pm

Cekoviu wrote:K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.

Reform should be tried. Revolution should be attempted if reform fails or is blocked.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I think this would most likely turn into a thread frequented by tankies. Anyway, I'm an American Nationalist with a social democratic view on economics. I don't know if that's "authoritarian" but I see no harm in posting here.

What’s wrong with tankies? Ya got tanks and chauvinistic music and tanks and based music and did I mention tanks?

Well they deny or excuse soviet atrocities and want to emulate the oppressive system that was the Soviet Union, North Korea, etc.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:23 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What’s wrong with tankies? Ya got tanks and chauvinistic music and tanks and based music and did I mention tanks?

Well they deny or excuse soviet atrocities and want to emulate the oppressive system that was the Soviet Union, North Korea, etc.

I have not seen Pyongyang apologism on this website.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:23 pm

I tend to get authleft as a result on political quizzes because of my support for center-left economics and social welfare policies, but I don't really think of myself as left-wing because I am too moderate to conservative in terms of cultural values.
As to the question of reform or revolution, I definately prefer reform. Revolution scares me.
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Postby Tirmon » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:25 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:I tend to get authleft as a result on political quizzes because of my support for center-left economics and social welfare policies, but I don't really think of myself as left-wing because I am too moderate to conservative in terms of cultural values.
As to the question of reform or revolution, I definately prefer reform. Revolution scares me.

For what it's worth, Socialism merely defines an economic system, despite what people may say. One can hold a number of socially conservative views and still consider themself a Socialist, and in countries outside of the USA, it's not uncommon for that to be the case.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:26 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Well they deny or excuse soviet atrocities and want to emulate the oppressive system that was the Soviet Union, North Korea, etc.

I have not seen Pyongyang apologism on this website.

There used to be a few on here long ago. That was probably 6 or 7 years ago
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:27 pm

Tirmon wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:I tend to get authleft as a result on political quizzes because of my support for center-left economics and social welfare policies, but I don't really think of myself as left-wing because I am too moderate to conservative in terms of cultural values.
As to the question of reform or revolution, I definately prefer reform. Revolution scares me.

For what it's worth, Socialism merely defines an economic system, despite what people may say. One can hold a number of socially conservative views and still consider themself a Socialist, and in countries outside of the USA, it's not uncommon for that to be the case.


Yes, the term socialism is different from the term "left-wing". In fact some people in the past have even used the term "right-wing socialism" to describe themselves or others. Not every defines the left-right spectrum in exclusively economic terms.
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Postby Tirmon » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:29 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Well they deny or excuse soviet atrocities and want to emulate the oppressive system that was the Soviet Union, North Korea, etc.

I have not seen Pyongyang apologism on this website.

While I'm no DPRK apologist, there's a difference between apologism and just speaking out against capitalist misinformation/propaganda. I was taught in school that North Koreans would drown their children in rivers so they wouldn't have to grow up in North Korea, and that cannibalism was rampant, just blatant lies, among many others.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:32 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Well they deny or excuse soviet atrocities and want to emulate the oppressive system that was the Soviet Union, North Korea, etc.

I have not seen Pyongyang apologism on this website.

There definitely is, you're just too new to have seen it.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:33 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Well they deny or excuse soviet atrocities and want to emulate the oppressive system that was the Soviet Union, North Korea, etc.

I have not seen Pyongyang apologism on this website.

They love their echo chambers and avoid the forums. They hang out on gameside in places like North Korea.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:38 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:I have not seen Pyongyang apologism on this website.

They love their echo chambers and avoid the forums. They hang out on gameside in places like North Korea.

Oh my
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:44 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:I’m LibRight so AuthLeft is pretty much the exact opposite of me

If you support Trump, you're authoritarian-right.

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Postby Rostavykhan » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:50 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:K, question to start this thread (which is not the RWDT) off: how should your preferred economic system be instated - revolution, reform? Remember that this thread is totally not the RWDT.

No it isn't, and if it becomes anything like the RWDT this thread will be locked.


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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:04 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:No it isn't, and if it becomes anything like the RWDT this thread will be locked.


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FTR, I've yet to meet a serious "tankie" who calls themselves "authoritarian left".
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