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Postby The Peasant Republic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:34 pm

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There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.


There's a website to Sally Hemings that explains her life and relationship with Jefferson.

https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

He literally goes "that DNA nonsense is just nonsense" in the next post, I'd seriously just ignore him.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:34 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:I Posted about a statue of President Reagan being on Mount Rushmore, if approved by the majority of the population. I will let you know through a friendly TG when and where on the forums you and I can discus and argue on President Reagan. I might look through my thousands of NS Posts and send you links you can read. If we can discuss and argue on President Reagan through the TGs without any personal insults on both sides, I am willing to do so. You may send me a Friendly TG anytime you wish. I cant do more than this. I know by your reactions you hate President Reagan, I don't have a problem with it. It is called Democracy in America, The USA.


Nope. Reagan shouldn't be on Rushmore. Not his style. They tried to put him on the dime and Nancy nixed that quick. Stating *shock* he admired FDR.

Interesting post, thank you. But I still want Republican President Ronald Reagan along with First Lady Nancy Reagan on Mount Rushmore, because they loved each other so much. But I cant make it happen anyway if not I would, but actually I have to respect his style. Thank you again my Friend.
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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:35 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:We should take all the memorials to presidents down except for Reagan's grave, we should build a restroom on top of that that empties into his coffin

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I don't have Twitter, I just have this thing against genocides in 3rd world countries and mass parasitism by an upper class.


So you want to take down statues of Lincoln and Grant? Despite them being the ones that fought to end slavery in the South?
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:35 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
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:roll: yes. Fake news tells lies. We know this.



There's no evidence they even had sex. The DNA nonsense Is just that, nonsense.

They had multiple children, and it's an established fact that he's a rapist. You really are a conspiracy nut.


It's hardly an established fact that they had multiple children. The DNA 'evidence' was 'discovered' in 1998.

That's nearly two hundred years after Jefferson died. And even the 'evidence' only indicated he might have been the father.

Literally no evidence exists that this was the case, and it wasn't even an idea in people's minds until hundreds of years after they were all dead.

The whole movement to think he was, is entirely founded on the suspicions of a woman who made her living using Freudian Psychology to psychoanalyze historical figures in the 1950's.
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:35 pm

Fahran wrote:Out of curiosity, which historical figures should be honored with monuments if any?

Thomas Paine
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:36 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:They had multiple children, and it's an established fact that he's a rapist. You really are a conspiracy nut.


It's hardly an established fact that they had multiple children. The DNA 'evidence' was 'discovered' in 1998.

That's nearly two hundred years after Jefferson died. And even the 'evidence' only indicated he might have been the father.

Literally no evidence exists that this was the case, and it wasn't even an idea in people's minds until hundreds of years after they were all dead.

The whole movement to think he was, is entirely founded on the suspicions of a woman who made her living using Freudian Psychology to psychoanalyze historical figures in the 1950's.

I don't follow how DNA evidence not being discovered until DNA evidence was invented somehow makes the claim untrue.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:36 pm

The Peasant Republic wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
There's a website to Sally Hemings that explains her life and relationship with Jefferson.

https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

He literally goes "that DNA nonsense is just nonsense" in the next post, I'd seriously just ignore him.


The results of the DNA test were a 'Maybe, yes?' and the people invested in it being a definitely yes ran with 'Yes 100% this means all our fan fiction is true.'
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Postby Dollystana » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:39 pm

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Heloin wrote:He sold missiles to Iran, funded terrorists around the world, actively refused to do anything about the AIDS pandemic, attempted to swing America support fully behind the Apartheid Government.

Heloin my NS Friend, this is not the thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. I have posted on many different threads about President Ronald Reagan before.

This is 100% threadjacking. I'm surprised no mod has shut this down yet.
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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:41 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:Heloin my NS Friend, this is not the thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. I have posted on many different threads about President Ronald Reagan before.

This is 100% threadjacking. I'm surprised no mod has shut this down yet.


How is this thread jacking? It's just a one time post while the others have been discussing about the Founding Fathers.
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Postby Dollystana » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:43 pm

Aeritai wrote:
Dollystana wrote:This is 100% threadjacking. I'm surprised no mod has shut this down yet.


How is this thread jacking? It's just a one time post while the others have been discussing about the Founding Fathers.

This thread has turned into a 2 nation argument about Reagan. So if you want to let the swear words fly, I'm fine with that.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:43 pm

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:43 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/8/11389556/t ... mings-book
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... story.html


Hmmm? Much of that seems to be centered on slave equals rape.

One would ask is if Sally was simply property; why would Jefferson pay her a wage when they lived in France?

If he was raping her all the time; why didn't she make a run for it?

I will admit my knowledge of her history is basic at best. Some things are a tad more in depth then simply she was a slave so he raped her.

Anyway....
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Postby The Peasant Republic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:43 pm

Aeritai wrote:
Dollystana wrote:This is 100% threadjacking. I'm surprised no mod has shut this down yet.


How is this thread jacking? It's just a one time post while the others have been discussing about the Founding Fathers.

He's basically kept bringing up "Republican President Ronald Reagan" and how he should go up there on Mt. Rushmore with his wife because they loved each other so much and gone "no talking bad its threadjacking" everytime someone's brought up why Reagan's face shouldn't go up on Rushmore.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:45 pm

Aeritai wrote:
Dollystana wrote:This is 100% threadjacking. I'm surprised no mod has shut this down yet.


How is this thread jacking? It's just a one time post while the others have been discussing about the Founding Fathers.

Thank you Aeritai. on this post I am also stating this is not the thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. Clearly protecting both of us and not threadjacking.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:47 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Fahran wrote:Out of curiosity, which historical figures should be honored with monuments if any?

Thomas Paine

He should be in a stained glass window.

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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:49 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:


Hmmm? Much of that seems to be centered on slave equals rape.

One would ask is if Sally was simply property; why would Jefferson pay her a wage when they lived in France?

If he was raping her all the time; why didn't she make a run for it?

I will admit my knowledge of her history is basic at best. Some things are a tad more in depth then simply she was a slave so he raped her.

Anyway....


https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/ I suggest reading this to understand Sally's relationship with Jefferson.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:49 pm

Heloin wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Thomas Paine

He should be in a stained glass window.

What about Alexander Hamilton?
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:50 pm

Even if it were consensual, relations between a slave and the one 'owning' them is arguably wrong based just on the power imbalance, not even considering if the slave is very young.

Part of why people get up in arms about teachers doing something similar.
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Postby Dollystana » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:51 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
How is this thread jacking? It's just a one time post while the others have been discussing about the Founding Fathers.

Thank you Aeritai. on this post I am also stating this is not the thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. Clearly protecting both of us and not threadjacking.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=487582 Surprise! There is a thread!
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:51 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Heloin wrote:He should be in a stained glass window.

What about Alexander Hamilton?

A nice ham sandwich.

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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:52 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Heloin wrote:He should be in a stained glass window.

What about Alexander Hamilton?


He still has a statue, so there's that.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:52 pm

Aeritai wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:What about Alexander Hamilton?


He still has a statue, so there's that.

As he should.
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Postby Dollystana » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:54 pm

Heloin wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:What about Alexander Hamilton?

A nice ham sandwich.

How about you and GMS create a Reagan thread?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:55 pm

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He still has a statue, so there's that.

As he should.

Hamilton sided with the bankers, ergo he deserves everlasting condemnation. Jefferson was (politically) superior.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:56 pm

Dollystana wrote:
Heloin wrote:A nice ham sandwich.

How about you and GMS create a Reagan thread?

I'm not talking about Reagan, I don't give a shit about Reagan, why are you bringing this up?

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